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On 2/18/2013 9:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 2/18/2013 4:38 AM, Eisboch wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:18:39 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

There's not much "economic freedom" in either Vietnam or China. What has
happened is that one form of economic exploitation of workers has been
exchanged for another. A relatively few people in both countries are
doing well, and the rest are working for near slavery wages. They got to
where this country is headed before we did, that's all.

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More like the USA is heading toward where China *was* before the 1980's.

Prior to China's great experiment in capitalism, the government provided
all necessary commodities, including food and clothing to the general
population on a ration basis. Everyone lived, ate and dressed alike.
It was an existence, although a meager one. Then, in the 1980's,
certain provinces in China were opened to industrial modernization as an
experiment in controlled capitalism. Foreign countries (including the
USA and Canada) were invited to establish manufacturing and to enter
into "joint ventures" within these regions. I participated in one of
them in 1986 in a remote area of China called Wuxi .... about a three
hour drive on mostly dirt roads (back then) northeast of Shanghai. I
saw very few cars but thousands of Chinese pedaling bicycles, both in
the rural areas outside of Wuxi and within the city itself. Very few of
the industrial plants that we visited (and their associated
restaurants) had any form of modern toilets. I remember the
"facilities" consisted of an inclined trough along a wall that exited
through a hole in the wall and simply drained outside.

Fast forward to today and Wuxi is a modern, active city with automobiles
everywhere, replacing the bicycles. The standard of living for the
average Chinese worker has risen dramatically. People live in clean,
modern apartments with wide screen TV's (unheard of in the 1980's) and
shops selling consumer goods have sprung up everywhere, replacing the
government rationing. Wages may not compare to the "middle class" of
the USA, but that's a relative thing. Most important is that the
experiment in capitalism has been a resounding success and the quality
and standard of living for more and more Chinese people has grown by
leaps and bounds. It's not a "relatively few people" that are doing
better. A growing number in the millions are doing better. Sure,
some remote areas have not yet benefited, but the trend has been
established.

Here, we seem to be moving in the other direction with the government
being expected to provide more and more for the population's needs.

You don't have to sell Harry on the idea. He once claimed he was
himself, a capitalist.;-)

The title "thief" may be more appropriate due to the fact that he steals
from people because he doesn't pay his taxes.

Harry fails to see what others see in him.

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