On 1/12/13 11:18 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/12/2013 10:30 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 10:05:30 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 9:59 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:54:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/12/13 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:23 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/12/13 2:21 AM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 11, 2:27 pm, ESAD wrote:
I had in-laws who tried to pull that crap on me at a family
gathering in
Florida. They were trying to hustle funds for a trip their
church was
planning to take to somewhere in Central America to
proselytize. Or
maybe it was South America. One or the other. Basically, they were
heading into some backwoods areas in attempts to convert
indigenous
Catholics into Southern Baptists, and, as bait, they were
bringing along
church members who were nurses, doctors, et cetera.

"Indigenous Catholics?" And what were the indigenous before
they were
Catholics?

"and, as bait, they were bringing along church members who were
nurses, doctors, et cetera."

is it wrong to help people improve their health and their lives?

" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to
have
faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a
brother
or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you
says to
them, Go in peace; keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about
their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by
itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

James 2:14-17

What were the indigenous peoples before they were catholics? They
had
their own culture and their own religions *before* the Europeans
came
along and destroyed both.

Interesting quote you provided...sort of a justification for
proselytizing and destroying a people and a culture. It's damned
wrong
to go to some backwater area and offer help to people if only
they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours.

Harry I have no idea where you get the notion of " if only they will
give up their beliefs and culture to adopt yours."

That isn't written in the scripture, it isn't even applied. I
have no
idea why you feel you need to conjure up these things.

Really? What do evangelical missionaries do? Answer: they preach
christianity to others with the object of conversion, and many
times in
history those conversions were accomplished with the threat of death.

Cite?

http://tinyurl.com/o42at


Here you go, ignorant asshole:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion

'Evangelical missionaries' are not mentioned once. So from where came
your bull****, ESAD?

Here? http://tinyurl.com/o42at


I was just talking to Tim about that... Democrats win with the question,
never even caring about the answers...


Surely you and Tim were not thinking that christian missionaries and
evangelicals and armies of christian soldiers on a religious mission
were innocent of the destruction of indigenous populations and in some
cases civilizations, were you? You might be dumb enough to believe that,
but I can't believe Tim is.