On 1/10/13 2:37 PM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 15:16:34 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:59:42 PM UTC-5, ESAD wrote:
On 1/9/13 1:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote:


Mocking Christians is easy - takes no balls.
Let's see some cojones - mock some Muslims.

In this country, I have yet to encounter Muslims who want to force their
religious beliefs onto me. Christians who want to do so are common.

Weird... it's been years since I've encountered anyone who tried to force their religious beliefs on me.

Really? I have people knocking on doors in my neighborhood every couple
of weeks.


Really? Do you fight back? Can't you call the law for assault?

Just how *do* they 'force' their beliefs on you? Do they hold you down and put a funnel in your
nose?

I'd ask ESAD, but I think you've got more sense.


It's probably the hobo sign on your curb that says "Brainless, racist
asshole lives here."

On 1/9/2013 10:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:47:27 -0800, thumper wrote:

Tebow *is* eminently spoofable. Why should anybody care if Harris is
gay...?

Mocking Christians is easy - takes no balls.

Let's see some cojones - mock some Muslims.

I wasn't the one "mocking" Tebow but since you asked...

Some radical Muslims are clearly dangerous but they haven't bothered me
personally. I've worked and socialized with more than a few Muslims but
my acquaintances are skewed toward younger H1B visa holders with
advanced technical degrees. One guy from Bangladesh was the most
outspoken about his faith yet seemed to sincerely struggle with certain
aspects of it and was surprisingly receptive to skeptical thinking and
alternative views. He brought the subject up more than once so I
eventually expressed my honest opinions over the course of several
conversations, some of which could fairly be characterized as good
natured mocking of supernatural beliefs. He's a kind intelligent guy
that I trust and we remain on very good terms. I can't say the same of
most Christian proselytizers I've encountered. YMMV

Another co-worker grew up in Abbottabad Pakistan, the town where Bin
Laden was captured. I've been less outspoken with him because he's
never brought up religion. We mostly talked about sailing, politics,
and fishing.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:35:44 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/9/2013 10:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:47:27 -0800, thumper wrote:

Tebow *is* eminently spoofable. Why should anybody care if Harris is
gay...?

Mocking Christians is easy - takes no balls.

Let's see some cojones - mock some Muslims.

I wasn't the one "mocking" Tebow but since you asked...

Some radical Muslims are clearly dangerous but they haven't bothered me
personally. I've worked and socialized with more than a few Muslims but
my acquaintances are skewed toward younger H1B visa holders with
advanced technical degrees. One guy from Bangladesh was the most
outspoken about his faith yet seemed to sincerely struggle with certain
aspects of it and was surprisingly receptive to skeptical thinking and
alternative views. He brought the subject up more than once so I
eventually expressed my honest opinions over the course of several
conversations, some of which could fairly be characterized as good
natured mocking of supernatural beliefs. He's a kind intelligent guy
that I trust and we remain on very good terms. I can't say the same of
most Christian proselytizers I've encountered. YMMV

Another co-worker grew up in Abbottabad Pakistan, the town where Bin
Laden was captured. I've been less outspoken with him because he's
never brought up religion. We mostly talked about sailing, politics,
and fishing.

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

On 1/11/2013 10:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:35:44 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/9/2013 10:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:47:27 -0800, thumper wrote:

Tebow *is* eminently spoofable. Why should anybody care if Harris is
gay...?

Mocking Christians is easy - takes no balls.

Let's see some cojones - mock some Muslims.

I wasn't the one "mocking" Tebow but since you asked...

Some radical Muslims are clearly dangerous but they haven't bothered me
personally. I've worked and socialized with more than a few Muslims but
my acquaintances are skewed toward younger H1B visa holders with
advanced technical degrees. One guy from Bangladesh was the most
outspoken about his faith yet seemed to sincerely struggle with certain
aspects of it and was surprisingly receptive to skeptical thinking and
alternative views. He brought the subject up more than once so I
eventually expressed my honest opinions over the course of several
conversations, some of which could fairly be characterized as good
natured mocking of supernatural beliefs. He's a kind intelligent guy
that I trust and we remain on very good terms. I can't say the same of
most Christian proselytizers I've encountered. YMMV

Another co-worker grew up in Abbottabad Pakistan, the town where Bin
Laden was captured. I've been less outspoken with him because he's
never brought up religion. We mostly talked about sailing, politics,
and fishing.

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.


I have had Jehovas Witness a couple times knocking, and once I had the
Mormons... Told them I wasn't interested and they were on their way. I
do see Salvation Army at the holiday, and other groups here and there if
I pay to go to their events...

On 1/11/13 10:44 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/11/2013 10:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:35:44 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/9/2013 10:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:47:27 -0800, thumper wrote:

Tebow *is* eminently spoofable. Why should anybody care if Harris is
gay...?

Mocking Christians is easy - takes no balls.

Let's see some cojones - mock some Muslims.

I wasn't the one "mocking" Tebow but since you asked...

Some radical Muslims are clearly dangerous but they haven't bothered me
personally. I've worked and socialized with more than a few Muslims but
my acquaintances are skewed toward younger H1B visa holders with
advanced technical degrees. One guy from Bangladesh was the most
outspoken about his faith yet seemed to sincerely struggle with certain
aspects of it and was surprisingly receptive to skeptical thinking and
alternative views. He brought the subject up more than once so I
eventually expressed my honest opinions over the course of several
conversations, some of which could fairly be characterized as good
natured mocking of supernatural beliefs. He's a kind intelligent guy
that I trust and we remain on very good terms. I can't say the same of
most Christian proselytizers I've encountered. YMMV

Another co-worker grew up in Abbottabad Pakistan, the town where Bin
Laden was captured. I've been less outspoken with him because he's
never brought up religion. We mostly talked about sailing, politics,
and fishing.

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you
folks.


I have had Jehovas Witness a couple times knocking, and once I had the
Mormons... Told them I wasn't interested and they were on their way. I
do see Salvation Army at the holiday, and other groups here and there if
I pay to go to their events...


It's not the "door knock" proselytizing that I find overly offensive;
it's the changing of laws to further dumb religious beliefs.

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

On 1/11/13 12:45 PM, thumper wrote:
On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you
folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.


Christians force their beliefs on others in many ways other than
attempts at door to door salesmanship. These include but are not
limited to:

Attempting to reinstate official school prayer in public schools

Enacting laws that restrict the availability of abortion and access to
birth control

Restricting the rights of gays to marry

Restricting medical research and development in the area of stem cells

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:45:58 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

I'm sure one of y'all said something about Christians 'forcing' their beliefs on you. I've had many
interactions with Christians, but have never been 'forced' to believe any certain way. Not sure
which of you got 'forced', 'cause y'all sound so much alike anyway.

I've also had various folk come to my door with religious intent of one sort or the other. I don't
listen as long as you apparently do, so I don't know about their trying to convince me of all those
things you mention. I've found a polite, "Not interested, thanks," along with shutting the door
solves the problem.

Maybe, thumper, you're right. Open the door with a .45 in your hand, say, "Get the **** off my
porch," and slam the door in their face. After all, you do have the sign, right?

It's nice, also, that you were so much smarter than all the kids in your Sunday school class. You
should simply have told your parents that you didn't believe all the **** they believed. Then you
could have grown up and been even more like ESAD!
--

**Those who think they can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government
take care of them better take a closer look at the American Indian.**

On 1/11/2013 10:53 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/11/13 10:44 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/11/2013 10:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:35:44 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 1/9/2013 10:55 AM, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:47:27 -0800, thumper wrote:

Tebow *is* eminently spoofable. Why should anybody care if Harris is
gay...?

Mocking Christians is easy - takes no balls.

Let's see some cojones - mock some Muslims.

I wasn't the one "mocking" Tebow but since you asked...

Some radical Muslims are clearly dangerous but they haven't bothered me
personally. I've worked and socialized with more than a few Muslims
but
my acquaintances are skewed toward younger H1B visa holders with
advanced technical degrees. One guy from Bangladesh was the most
outspoken about his faith yet seemed to sincerely struggle with certain
aspects of it and was surprisingly receptive to skeptical thinking and
alternative views. He brought the subject up more than once so I
eventually expressed my honest opinions over the course of several
conversations, some of which could fairly be characterized as good
natured mocking of supernatural beliefs. He's a kind intelligent guy
that I trust and we remain on very good terms. I can't say the same of
most Christian proselytizers I've encountered. YMMV

Another co-worker grew up in Abbottabad Pakistan, the town where Bin
Laden was captured. I've been less outspoken with him because he's
never brought up religion. We mostly talked about sailing, politics,
and fishing.

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you
folks.


I have had Jehovas Witness a couple times knocking, and once I had the
Mormons... Told them I wasn't interested and they were on their way. I
do see Salvation Army at the holiday, and other groups here and there if
I pay to go to their events...


It's not the "door knock" proselytizing that I find overly offensive;
it's the changing of laws to further dumb religious beliefs.

You weren't unhappy to see the law banning school prayer. Laws is laws.
Nobody expects you to like em all. So let's stop the crybaby whining.
Shall we. Man up Krause.

In article , lid says...

On 1/11/2013 7:25 AM, Salmonbait wrote:

I'm still wondering how the Christians 'force' their beliefs on you folks.

I never said they did, at least not since I was a child and that didn't
take very well. It never made sense. I have a vivid memory as a young
child of a Sunday school teacher describing Noah's Arc and the flood and
how in heaven the lion will lie with the lamb, etc. I remember looking
around at the other kids and thinking wow, they believe these stories, I
better just be quiet.

They do routinely come to my front door ignoring the no soliciting sign
and try to convince me that I need to dedicate my life to Jesus to avoid
an eternity of suffering, join their church, and donate to their cause.
Perhaps they mean well but I think they're full of **** and annoying.
I've never had a Muslim, Jew, or atheist solicit like that.

Maybe if I stop being polite to them they'd leave me alone.

My sister's daughter went on a weekend trip with a Baptist church group.
When they got her away from home, where she was a vulnerable 10 year
old, they tried to brainwash her into being "born again". She's smart
and takes such things seriously, she wouldn't do it, saying that she had
to talk to her mom and dad about it. That scared her and she's not
stepped foot in a church since.