Florida and Ohio health insurance rates are already up 20% since
Obamcare... California rates may rise as much as 26% this year alone.
Dudes, we got screwed...

Add that to the 2000 more lower middle class folks will be paying in
taxes, and the outlook is pretty bleak.

In article , says...

Florida and Ohio health insurance rates are already up 20% since
Obamcare... California rates may rise as much as 26% this year alone.
Dudes, we got screwed...

Add that to the 2000 more lower middle class folks will be paying in
taxes, and the outlook is pretty bleak.

You don't have to worry about any of that, you're unemployed.

On 1/6/13 4:32 PM, JustWait wrote:
Florida and Ohio health insurance rates are already up 20% since
Obamcare... California rates may rise as much as 26% this year alone.
Dudes, we got screwed...

Add that to the 2000 more lower middle class folks will be paying in
taxes, and the outlook is pretty bleak.


How did *you* get screwed on health insurance rates?

On 06/01/2013 5:03 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/6/13 4:32 PM, JustWait wrote:
Florida and Ohio health insurance rates are already up 20% since
Obamcare... California rates may rise as much as 26% this year alone.
Dudes, we got screwed...

Add that to the 2000 more lower middle class folks will be paying in
taxes, and the outlook is pretty bleak.


How did *you* get screwed on health insurance rates?

1/2 the reason costs are so inflated as you are paying for bums on the
system, government bloat in a bloated bureaucracy so thick you have to
have a billion dollars to be a startup in competition, just to handle
the nonsense.

Yep, welfare bums, dopers, losers, lazy, corrupt politicians all in your
pocket and mortgaging the American dream for generations to come.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing but debt and discontentment.

On 1/7/13 6:20 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 06/01/2013 5:03 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/6/13 4:32 PM, JustWait wrote:
Florida and Ohio health insurance rates are already up 20% since
Obamcare... California rates may rise as much as 26% this year alone.
Dudes, we got screwed...

Add that to the 2000 more lower middle class folks will be paying in
taxes, and the outlook is pretty bleak.


How did *you* get screwed on health insurance rates?

1/2 the reason costs are so inflated as you are paying for bums on the
system, government bloat in a bloated bureaucracy so thick you have to
have a billion dollars to be a startup in competition, just to handle
the nonsense.

Yep, welfare bums, dopers, losers, lazy, corrupt politicians all in your
pocket and mortgaging the American dream for generations to come.


The rate increases in states where state insurance commissioners can
"regulate" the health insurance crooks are much, much smaller.
California commissioners cannot regulate health insurance rates.

And now, you can return to your room in the bat**** crazy asylum, Canookie.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:20:27 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

1/2 the reason costs are so inflated as you are paying for bums on the
system, government bloat in a bloated bureaucracy so thick you have to
have a billion dollars to be a startup in competition, just to handle
the nonsense.

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I think the problem is more complicated than that. One of the issues
that I see is that health care providers (mostly doctors) have no
incentive to control costs, quite the opposite in fact. The more
tests and diagnostic procedures that they order, the more they get
paid. It's almost like being able to write your own paycheck.
Patients have no reason to complain about costs as long as their
insurance or medicare is picking up the tab, and doctors who have
learned how to work the system, and there are consultants to help, are
doing quite well.

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:32:30 -0500, wrote:

Wayne, are you seeing your doctors dropping insurers and Medicare
itself?

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Fortunately not, not yet anyway.

I know they have a two tier system in Canada - the ones who can afford
it come here for medical care.

In article ,
says...

On 1/7/13 6:20 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 06/01/2013 5:03 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/6/13 4:32 PM, JustWait wrote:
Florida and Ohio health insurance rates are already up 20% since
Obamcare... California rates may rise as much as 26% this year alone.
Dudes, we got screwed...

Add that to the 2000 more lower middle class folks will be paying in
taxes, and the outlook is pretty bleak.


How did *you* get screwed on health insurance rates?

1/2 the reason costs are so inflated as you are paying for bums on the
system, government bloat in a bloated bureaucracy so thick you have to
have a billion dollars to be a startup in competition, just to handle
the nonsense.

Yep, welfare bums, dopers, losers, lazy, corrupt politicians all in your
pocket and mortgaging the American dream for generations to come.


The rate increases in states where state insurance commissioners can
"regulate" the health insurance crooks are much, much smaller.
California commissioners cannot regulate health insurance rates.

And now, you can return to your room in the bat**** crazy asylum, Canookie.

It's a real toss up between him and Scotty to see who is the craziest.