On 1/3/2013 3:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:13 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

e looking for a hand-out.

You stupid little fool, how come your party, when they HAD A CHANCE to
vote on the bill overwhelmingly voted in favor of it? Are you saying
that your party likes the alleged pork in the bill?

Maybe if it was just a clean Sandy relief bill it would have sailed
through. It was the pork that stopped it.

This is like the "cliff" bill that added a third of a trillion in
EXTRA spending and offset it with a fraction of that in extra revenue.


The Democrats love the direction the country is going.. They really
don't give a **** about our kids...

On 1/3/2013 3:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:15:18 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/3/13 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:


http://www.leftaction.com/action/tel...-disaster-aid-
hurricane-sandy-victims


Maybe if the senate had not loaded this bill up with unrelated pork,
it might have had a better chance.

We didn't even attack the deficit with the cliff bill. They added debt
and kicked the can 2 months down the road.
When will the world simply stop buying our bonds? The treasury is
buying back 80% of the new issues now using money they create out of
thin air. That shows how soft the market in our paper actually is.




More likely, the House Repugnants were showing the people of a "Blue
State" that they really didn't give a **** about them.

I just saw Mitch Landreu (Gov Louisiana) saying he is still waiting
for the rest of his FEMA money from Katrina.

People are fools thinking the federal government can do anything fast
enough to qualify as disaster relief.


The guy you folks helped here is engaged to a banker from NYC... She is
so frustrated talking on another group about how the FEMA money is in
the banks, but not being released by the Insurance Companies...

On 1/3/2013 5:13 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 1/3/2013 4:05 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/3/13 3:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:15:18 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/3/13 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:


http://www.leftaction.com/action/tel...-disaster-aid-


hurricane-sandy-victims


Maybe if the senate had not loaded this bill up with unrelated pork,
it might have had a better chance.

We didn't even attack the deficit with the cliff bill. They added debt
and kicked the can 2 months down the road.
When will the world simply stop buying our bonds? The treasury is
buying back 80% of the new issues now using money they create out of
thin air. That shows how soft the market in our paper actually is.




More likely, the House Repugnants were showing the people of a "Blue
State" that they really didn't give a **** about them.

I just saw Mitch Landreu (Gov Louisiana) saying he is still waiting
for the rest of his FEMA money from Katrina.

People are fools thinking the federal government can do anything fast
enough to qualify as disaster relief.



It took the House 10 days to past a bill that started recovery funds
flowing to Katrinaville.

The bill means ****... Just like here, Katrina money didn't actually
make it to the people for months. Stop wasting our time with your
stupidity...


Perhaps the reason is that Boehner is an incompetent speaker, incapable
of leading his fractured party in the House. Of course, there seems to
be no one else in that party capable of doing the job. No one sane wants
Cantor. The Tea Party has pretty much destroyed the legislative
process...and that was its goal.

This from the fool who can't successfully manage his own finances.
Anyone who finds you credible is likewise a fool.

On 1/3/2013 7:00 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:05:41 -0500, ESAD wrote:


I just saw Mitch Landreu (Gov Louisiana) saying he is still waiting
for the rest of his FEMA money from Katrina.

People are fools thinking the federal government can do anything fast
enough to qualify as disaster relief.



It took the House 10 days to past a bill that started recovery funds
flowing to Katrinaville.


Mitch is saying they may have promised that money but it isn't all
there yet.

I haven't looked at Thomas yet but if Scotty is right and they
attached the $60 million "Sandy" bill to a $500 million dollar pork
fest, I agree, try again.

That is one reason we are $16 trillion in debt. You can't pass a bill
in congress without a pork barrel bribe for every yes vote.


Seriously... The only folks who refute any facts I state here are....
well, there are none, just name callers... Do the homework if you
want, I don't make up numbers or throw up phony arguments, that is for
loogie, krause, and jps..

On 1/3/13 8:45 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/3/2013 7:00 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:05:41 -0500, ESAD wrote:


I just saw Mitch Landreu (Gov Louisiana) saying he is still waiting
for the rest of his FEMA money from Katrina.

People are fools thinking the federal government can do anything fast
enough to qualify as disaster relief.



It took the House 10 days to past a bill that started recovery funds
flowing to Katrinaville.


Mitch is saying they may have promised that money but it isn't all
there yet.

I haven't looked at Thomas yet but if Scotty is right and they
attached the $60 million "Sandy" bill to a $500 million dollar pork
fest, I agree, try again.

That is one reason we are $16 trillion in debt. You can't pass a bill
in congress without a pork barrel bribe for every yes vote.


Seriously... The only folks who refute any facts I state here are....
well, there are none, just name callers... Do the homework if you
want, I don't make up numbers or throw up phony arguments, that is for
loogie, krause, and jps..

You post from Fox News and other crazy inaccurate bull**** right-wing
sources.

On 1/3/2013 9:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:45:27 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 1/3/2013 7:00 PM, wrote:

I haven't looked at Thomas yet but if Scotty is right and they
attached the $60 million "Sandy" bill to a $500 million dollar pork
fest, I agree, try again.

That is one reason we are $16 trillion in debt. You can't pass a bill
in congress without a pork barrel bribe for every yes vote.


Seriously... The only folks who refute any facts I state here are....
well, there are none, just name callers... Do the homework if you
want, I don't make up numbers or throw up phony arguments, that is for
loogie, krause, and jps..

I have looked it up and the bill is a lot worse than you reported.

It was a bucket that sat around the Senate since February 28
collecting pork and they dug it up in late December, pasted the Sandy
relief on it and sent it back to the house on 12/30 hoping nobody
would have time to read it..


Well, I was just pointing out the tip of the iceberg. Fact is, nearly
65% of the money won't even get spent for up to ten years... It's not
Sandy Relief at all...

On 1/3/2013 9:00 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/3/13 8:45 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/3/2013 7:00 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:05:41 -0500, ESAD wrote:


I just saw Mitch Landreu (Gov Louisiana) saying he is still waiting
for the rest of his FEMA money from Katrina.

People are fools thinking the federal government can do anything fast
enough to qualify as disaster relief.



It took the House 10 days to past a bill that started recovery funds
flowing to Katrinaville.


Mitch is saying they may have promised that money but it isn't all
there yet.

I haven't looked at Thomas yet but if Scotty is right and they
attached the $60 million "Sandy" bill to a $500 million dollar pork
fest, I agree, try again.

That is one reason we are $16 trillion in debt. You can't pass a bill
in congress without a pork barrel bribe for every yes vote.


Seriously... The only folks who refute any facts I state here are....
well, there are none, just name callers... Do the homework if you
want, I don't make up numbers or throw up phony arguments, that is for
loogie, krause, and jps..

You post from Fox News and other crazy inaccurate bull**** right-wing
sources.

OK We get it. You dispise logical, sensible, and caring people with good
and honest motivation.

On 1/3/2013 8:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:13:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:13 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

e looking for a hand-out.

You stupid little fool, how come your party, when they HAD A CHANCE to
vote on the bill overwhelmingly voted in favor of it? Are you saying
that your party likes the alleged pork in the bill?

Maybe if it was just a clean Sandy relief bill it would have sailed
through. It was the pork that stopped it.

Cite?



OK how about some facts

The Sandy relief was tacked onto H.R.1 a massive pork bill

This is just the table of contents

Beginning
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR DISASTER ASSISTANCE
TITLE I
AGRICULTURAL PROGRAMS
Farm Service Agency
emergency conservation program
emergency forest restoration program
CONSERVATION PROGRAMS
Natural Resources Conservation Service
emergency watershed protection program
DOMESTIC FOOD PROGRAMS
Food and Nutrition Service
commodity assistance program
TITLE II
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
operations, research, and facilities
procurement, acquisition and construction
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
General Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Drug Enforcement Administration
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Federal Prison System
buildings and facilities
SCIENCE
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
construction and environmental compliance and restoration
Legal Services Corporation
payment to the legal services corporation
TITLE III
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE--MILITARY
Operation and Maintenance, Army
Operation and Maintenance, Navy
Operation and Maintenance, Air Force
Operation and Maintenance, Army National Guard
Operation and Maintenance, Air National Guard
PROCUREMENT
Procurement of Ammunition, Army
REVOLVING AND MANAGEMENT FUNDS
Defense Working Capital Funds
TITLE IV
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE--CIVIL
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
Corps of Engineers--Civil
investigations
operation and maintenance
flood control and coastal emergencies
expenses
TITLE V
INDEPENDENT AGENCIES
General Services Administration
real property activities
federal buildings fund
Small Business Administration
office of inspector general
disaster loans program account
TITLE VI
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Coast Guard
acquisition, construction, and improvements
United States Secret Service
Federal Emergency Management Agency
disaster relief fund
Disaster Assistance Direct Loan Program Account
Science and Technology
research, development, acquisition, and operations
Domestic Nuclear Detection Office
systems acquisition
levees
disaster recovery

`SEC. 428. PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES.

`SEC. 429. UNIFIED FEDERAL REVIEW.

`SEC. 103. REFERENCES.

TITLE VII
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
Fish and Wildlife Service
National Park Service
historic preservation fund
construction
Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement
oil spill research
Departmental Operations
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
Environmental Programs and Management
Hazardous Substance Superfund
Leaking Underground Storage Tank Fund
State and Tribal Assistance Grants
RELATED AGENCIES
DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
Forest Service
capital improvement and maintenance
OTHER RELATED AGENCY
Smithsonian Institution
salaries and expenses
TITLE VIII
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
Employment and Training Administration
training and employment services
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
Administration for Children and Families
social services block grant
children and family services programs
Office of the Secretary
public health and social services emergency fund
(including transfer of funds)
RELATED AGENCY
Social Security Administration
limitation on administrative expenses
TITLE IX
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
MILITARY CONSTRUCTION
Military Construction, Army National Guard
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
Veterans Health Administration
medical services
medical facilities
national cemetery administration
Departmental Administration
information technology systems
construction, major projects
TITLE X
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Federal Aviation Administration
facilities and equipment
(airport and airway trust fund)
Federal Highway Administration
federal-aid highways
emergency relief program
Federal Railroad Administration
grants to the national railroad passenger corporation
Federal Transit Administration
public transportation emergency relief program
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
Community Planning and Development
community development fund
GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS TITLE
TITLE XI
GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS ACT
VEHICLES USE IN THE WAKE OF HURRICANE SANDY
INCREASED EMBASSY SECURITY
PROHIBITION ON EMERGENCY SPENDING FOR PERSONS HAVING SERIOUS
DELINQUENT TAX DEBTS
PROHIBITION ON EMERGENCY SPENDING FOR DECEASED INDIVIDUALS


When kevin says "cite" he means he can't refute the facts and he's
trying to move along...

On 1/3/2013 9:33 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 21:00:18 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/3/13 8:45 PM, JustWait wrote:

That is one reason we are $16 trillion in debt. You can't pass a bill
in congress without a pork barrel bribe for every yes vote.


Seriously... The only folks who refute any facts I state here are....
well, there are none, just name callers... Do the homework if you
want, I don't make up numbers or throw up phony arguments, that is for
loogie, krause, and jps..

You post from Fox News and other crazy inaccurate bull**** right-wing
sources.

Actually the story was a lot of places while I was trying to track
down the bill number.
In the end I found it by the recorded votes on Thomas (Library of
congress web site)
They tacked Sandy relief on a real porkathon. What Scotty listed was a
small part of it.


It would be a lot quicker if you just told harry to **** off

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:13:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:13 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

e looking for a hand-out.

You stupid little fool, how come your party, when they HAD A CHANCE to
vote on the bill overwhelmingly voted in favor of it? Are you saying
that your party likes the alleged pork in the bill?

Maybe if it was just a clean Sandy relief bill it would have sailed
through. It was the pork that stopped it.

Cite?



If I actually researched ther bill on Thomas and posted what it said,
would you say I was right?

I didn't think so.

You are still sticking to your story that all the dope comes from
Asia.

Yes, are you going to give cite for your accusations? I didn't think so.