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ESAD January 2nd 13 01:04 AM

What the 'ell??
 
On 1/1/13 7:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/1/2013 7:15 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 12:59 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/1/2013 12:32 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:37:17 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/31/2012 11:12 AM, JustWait wrote:


Quite frankly I think the training should be based on the training a
rookie Police Officer comes in with... This might mean a couple
years of
night school, but if you are going to have armed anybody in the
schools
I think they need all the tools of conflict resolution, physical
ability, tactical awareness, etc that a fully trained Police Officer
has.


Why do we think there is something wonderful about the training cops
have?

Because a lot of their training is directed at exactly the type of
incursion we are talking about here...

Remember last summer the cops in New York shot 11 innocent bystanders,
taking down one suspect. They weren't even rookies.


It called "the fog of war"... it was terrible, but it happened. Hey, I
hear a plane crashed once, maybe we just shouldn't fly either...

Do you think a bunch of untrained civilians would do any better? In
fact, can you give me one identifiable group that you think would be
better suited for such duty?


I think it would be better if we kept armed people of every kind away
from our public schools.

I'd rather we spend that sort of money, or a good portion of it on:

1. Licensing gun owners and guns, and that includes all current gun
owners and their firearms. Licensing to include a mandatory safety
course and demonstration of knowledge at a licensed firing range.

2. No private sales of firearms without a legal paper trail.

3. Drastically increased funding for community mental health screening
and services.

4. Outlawing of firearms that can accommodate more than 10 rounds in a
magazine, and required turning in or permanent modification of existing
firearms.

5. Educational programs in the public schools that teach children how to
resolve conflict without "going Scotty."


Is that why you live so far away from a school?



He lives that far because Harry Krause is a convicted sexual predator...
back in Florida where he used to live...


Still projecting, hey, little boy-man? Oh, there are two public schools
and one church school in our immediate area, within walking distance if
there were sidewalks.

BAR[_2_] January 2nd 13 12:41 PM

What the 'ell??
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 7:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 5:32 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

Now it's more clear why you are disgusted by krause, another gun nut.
Always talking about he would "defend himself" with his guns.
As crazy as you are, you're a a couple notches saner than a gun nut.
Yeah, I know, faint praise. All I got.



You seem unable to understand what you read. I certainly will defend
with a firearm from a home invader. That's about it. That doesn't make
me a gun nut.


Yes, you are a gun nut. You are the one who regal us with your stories
of killing stumpy and what you would do if the wrong person knocked on
your door. Remember to make sure you actually kill the person and not
just maime them. It would suck for the police to find out that you
opened your door and then pulled the trigger. Oh, make sure that you
have your throw away gun to plant on the "intruder" you just killed. You
need to meeet force with force. They would want to know why you opened
the door, killed someone, planted a gun on them rather than calling 911.


D'uh. "Stumpy" was an old tree stump which was going to be removed one
way or another because it sat in the middle of a future septic system
drain field.

You morons seem to confuse knocking on a door with home invasion.


You do read all of my posts! I am touched and appreciative.

We are not the ones who have a loaded shotgun sitting in the umbrella
stand next to the front door. We are not the ones who "concealed carry"
while walking around our houses? We are not the ones hoping and praying
for some innocent rube to walk up, knock on our front door and give us
the opportunity to threaten someone with a gun with the wanted result of
actually shooting that person.

You really do need to watch what you say in this forum. Having your
posts not archived doesn't mean that they do not exist and that they
will not be available for the police and prosecutor to use against you
in a court of law.

How many times have you been turned down for a CCP in Maryland? Have
they told you to stop sending them applications just to get the
summarily rejected?



ESAD January 2nd 13 12:51 PM

What the 'ell??
 
On 1/2/13 7:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 7:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 5:32 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

Now it's more clear why you are disgusted by krause, another gun nut.
Always talking about he would "defend himself" with his guns.
As crazy as you are, you're a a couple notches saner than a gun nut.
Yeah, I know, faint praise. All I got.



You seem unable to understand what you read. I certainly will defend
with a firearm from a home invader. That's about it. That doesn't make
me a gun nut.

Yes, you are a gun nut. You are the one who regal us with your stories
of killing stumpy and what you would do if the wrong person knocked on
your door. Remember to make sure you actually kill the person and not
just maime them. It would suck for the police to find out that you
opened your door and then pulled the trigger. Oh, make sure that you
have your throw away gun to plant on the "intruder" you just killed. You
need to meeet force with force. They would want to know why you opened
the door, killed someone, planted a gun on them rather than calling 911.


D'uh. "Stumpy" was an old tree stump which was going to be removed one
way or another because it sat in the middle of a future septic system
drain field.

You morons seem to confuse knocking on a door with home invasion.


You do read all of my posts! I am touched and appreciative.


Actually, I don't. The above post was the first of yours I've read
"directly" in a long, long time. These days, I tend to read only some of
the posts of just a few of the bat**** crazy righties who frequent this
joint. You, Meyer, Earl, and a couple of others are on the DNR list. For
some reason, I read the referenced post and I am reading this follow-up.
Then you will be back on the DNR list.

Little Snotty, Bilious Bill, Crazy Canuck...they are entertainly nutso
righties. I watch Little Snotty because I think one day he's going to
shoot up a school or drive into a crowd of pedestrians, and I want to be
able to say, "Hey, it was predictable."

You are just repetitive and boring.

Bye-bye.


BAR[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:03 PM

What the 'ell??
 
In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 11:19:05 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1805701577378681744.653332bmckeenospam-

, says...



wrote:


On Monday, December 31, 2012 4:22:26 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:


wrote:




On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:58:58 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:




In article ,








says...















Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there...








http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html















What is YOUR solution?








Disarm the population...with an exception for shotguns and legitimate hunting rifles.








The founders did not include gun rights because of hunting. They wanted




the leaders to have a fear of the populace. The problem we have, and




seeing a few mass murders in Canada also, the problem includes canada, is




that we have both a general breakdown in society and a mental health system




that is mostly nonexistent and overly constrained by law.




All the more reason to limit ownership of firearms.




See what the control advocates in Canada have accomplished. You can have


you petty dictator run roughshod all he wants.




Here's how you do it:



http://www.economist.com/blogs/lexin...12/gun-control









And, to be crude, having few guns does mean that few people get shot. In

2008-2009, there were 39 fatal injuries from crimes involving firearms

in England and Wales, with a population about one sixth the size of

America?s. In America, there were 12,000 gun-related homicides in 2008.


Here's how who does it?
You do know that Canada makes it's own laws, eh?
That lady is talking about Britain. Being next door to y'all makes it much harder to control hand guns and ammunition.


Why is the Queen your head of state?

BAR[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:19 PM

What the 'ell??
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/2/13 7:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 7:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 5:32 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

Now it's more clear why you are disgusted by krause, another gun nut.
Always talking about he would "defend himself" with his guns.
As crazy as you are, you're a a couple notches saner than a gun nut.
Yeah, I know, faint praise. All I got.



You seem unable to understand what you read. I certainly will defend
with a firearm from a home invader. That's about it. That doesn't make
me a gun nut.

Yes, you are a gun nut. You are the one who regal us with your stories
of killing stumpy and what you would do if the wrong person knocked on
your door. Remember to make sure you actually kill the person and not
just maime them. It would suck for the police to find out that you
opened your door and then pulled the trigger. Oh, make sure that you
have your throw away gun to plant on the "intruder" you just killed. You
need to meeet force with force. They would want to know why you opened
the door, killed someone, planted a gun on them rather than calling 911.


D'uh. "Stumpy" was an old tree stump which was going to be removed one
way or another because it sat in the middle of a future septic system
drain field.

You morons seem to confuse knocking on a door with home invasion.


You do read all of my posts! I am touched and appreciative.


Actually, I don't. The above post was the first of yours I've read
"directly" in a long, long time. These days, I tend to read only some of
the posts of just a few of the bat**** crazy righties who frequent this
joint. You, Meyer, Earl, and a couple of others are on the DNR list. For
some reason, I read the referenced post and I am reading this follow-up.
Then you will be back on the DNR list.

Little Snotty, Bilious Bill, Crazy Canuck...they are entertainly nutso
righties. I watch Little Snotty because I think one day he's going to
shoot up a school or drive into a crowd of pedestrians, and I want to be
able to say, "Hey, it was predictable."

You are just repetitive and boring.

Bye-bye.


Have you paid your taxes and debts? Did you make a resolution for 2013
to make your creditors whole?

Meyer[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:34 PM

What the 'ell??
 
On 1/2/2013 7:51 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/2/13 7:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 7:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 5:32 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

Now it's more clear why you are disgusted by krause, another gun nut.
Always talking about he would "defend himself" with his guns.
As crazy as you are, you're a a couple notches saner than a gun nut.
Yeah, I know, faint praise. All I got.



You seem unable to understand what you read. I certainly will defend
with a firearm from a home invader. That's about it. That doesn't make
me a gun nut.

Yes, you are a gun nut. You are the one who regal us with your stories
of killing stumpy and what you would do if the wrong person knocked on
your door. Remember to make sure you actually kill the person and not
just maime them. It would suck for the police to find out that you
opened your door and then pulled the trigger. Oh, make sure that you
have your throw away gun to plant on the "intruder" you just killed.
You
need to meeet force with force. They would want to know why you opened
the door, killed someone, planted a gun on them rather than calling
911.


D'uh. "Stumpy" was an old tree stump which was going to be removed one
way or another because it sat in the middle of a future septic system
drain field.

You morons seem to confuse knocking on a door with home invasion.


You do read all of my posts! I am touched and appreciative.


Actually, I don't. The above post was the first of yours I've read
"directly" in a long, long time. These days, I tend to read only some of
the posts of just a few of the bat**** crazy righties who frequent this
joint. You, Meyer, Earl, and a couple of others are on the DNR list. For
some reason, I read the referenced post and I am reading this follow-up.
Then you will be back on the DNR list.

Little Snotty, Bilious Bill, Crazy Canuck...they are entertainly nutso
righties. I watch Little Snotty because I think one day he's going to
shoot up a school or drive into a crowd of pedestrians, and I want to be
able to say, "Hey, it was predictable."

You are just repetitive and boring.

Bye-bye.

Do you keep your shotgun in the umbrella stand, barrel up, or stock up?

iBoaterer[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:51 PM

What the 'ell??
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 7:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 5:32 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

Now it's more clear why you are disgusted by krause, another gun nut.
Always talking about he would "defend himself" with his guns.
As crazy as you are, you're a a couple notches saner than a gun nut.
Yeah, I know, faint praise. All I got.



You seem unable to understand what you read. I certainly will defend
with a firearm from a home invader. That's about it. That doesn't make
me a gun nut.


Yes, you are a gun nut. You are the one who regal us with your stories
of killing stumpy and what you would do if the wrong person knocked on
your door. Remember to make sure you actually kill the person and not
just maime them. It would suck for the police to find out that you
opened your door and then pulled the trigger. Oh, make sure that you
have your throw away gun to plant on the "intruder" you just killed. You
need to meeet force with force. They would want to know why you opened
the door, killed someone, planted a gun on them rather than calling 911.


D'uh. "Stumpy" was an old tree stump which was going to be removed one
way or another because it sat in the middle of a future septic system
drain field.

You morons seem to confuse knocking on a door with home invasion.


YOU told Scotty that if he showed up on your property that he would
leave in an ambulence or worse.

iBoaterer[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:52 PM

What the 'ell??
 
In article , says...

On 1/1/2013 5:32 PM, Boating All Out wrote:


It called "the fog of war"... it was terrible, but it happened. Hey, I
hear a plane crashed once, maybe we just shouldn't fly either...


Do you think a bunch of untrained civilians would do any better? In
fact, can you give me one identifiable group that you think would be
better suited for such duty?


Pretty sure gfretwell would say AGNA - American Gun Nut Association.


So, in other words, you do not have a rational response so you will go
with the middle school drama again.. Please, leave the conversation to
folks who shave...


I do, moron. About that stupid, idiotic comment about plane crashes....
Is a plane manufactured and used to kill? How about a gun?

iBoaterer[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:54 PM

What the 'ell??
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 7:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/1/2013 7:15 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 12:59 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/1/2013 12:32 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:37:17 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/31/2012 11:12 AM, JustWait wrote:


Quite frankly I think the training should be based on the training a
rookie Police Officer comes in with... This might mean a couple
years of
night school, but if you are going to have armed anybody in the
schools
I think they need all the tools of conflict resolution, physical
ability, tactical awareness, etc that a fully trained Police Officer
has.


Why do we think there is something wonderful about the training cops
have?

Because a lot of their training is directed at exactly the type of
incursion we are talking about here...

Remember last summer the cops in New York shot 11 innocent bystanders,
taking down one suspect. They weren't even rookies.


It called "the fog of war"... it was terrible, but it happened. Hey, I
hear a plane crashed once, maybe we just shouldn't fly either...

Do you think a bunch of untrained civilians would do any better? In
fact, can you give me one identifiable group that you think would be
better suited for such duty?


I think it would be better if we kept armed people of every kind away
from our public schools.

I'd rather we spend that sort of money, or a good portion of it on:

1. Licensing gun owners and guns, and that includes all current gun
owners and their firearms. Licensing to include a mandatory safety
course and demonstration of knowledge at a licensed firing range.

2. No private sales of firearms without a legal paper trail.

3. Drastically increased funding for community mental health screening
and services.

4. Outlawing of firearms that can accommodate more than 10 rounds in a
magazine, and required turning in or permanent modification of existing
firearms.

5. Educational programs in the public schools that teach children how to
resolve conflict without "going Scotty."

Is that why you live so far away from a school?



He lives that far because Harry Krause is a convicted sexual predator...
back in Florida where he used to live...


Still projecting, hey, little boy-man? Oh, there are two public schools
and one church school in our immediate area, within walking distance if
there were sidewalks.


You can't walk anywhere unless there is sidewalks? Figures.

ESAD January 2nd 13 02:19 PM

What the 'ell??
 
On 1/2/13 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 7:49 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/1/2013 7:15 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 12:59 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/1/2013 12:32 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:37:17 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 12/31/2012 11:12 AM, JustWait wrote:


Quite frankly I think the training should be based on the training a
rookie Police Officer comes in with... This might mean a couple
years of
night school, but if you are going to have armed anybody in the
schools
I think they need all the tools of conflict resolution, physical
ability, tactical awareness, etc that a fully trained Police Officer
has.


Why do we think there is something wonderful about the training cops
have?

Because a lot of their training is directed at exactly the type of
incursion we are talking about here...

Remember last summer the cops in New York shot 11 innocent bystanders,
taking down one suspect. They weren't even rookies.


It called "the fog of war"... it was terrible, but it happened. Hey, I
hear a plane crashed once, maybe we just shouldn't fly either...

Do you think a bunch of untrained civilians would do any better? In
fact, can you give me one identifiable group that you think would be
better suited for such duty?


I think it would be better if we kept armed people of every kind away
from our public schools.

I'd rather we spend that sort of money, or a good portion of it on:

1. Licensing gun owners and guns, and that includes all current gun
owners and their firearms. Licensing to include a mandatory safety
course and demonstration of knowledge at a licensed firing range.

2. No private sales of firearms without a legal paper trail.

3. Drastically increased funding for community mental health screening
and services.

4. Outlawing of firearms that can accommodate more than 10 rounds in a
magazine, and required turning in or permanent modification of existing
firearms.

5. Educational programs in the public schools that teach children how to
resolve conflict without "going Scotty."

Is that why you live so far away from a school?



He lives that far because Harry Krause is a convicted sexual predator...
back in Florida where he used to live...


Still projecting, hey, little boy-man? Oh, there are two public schools
and one church school in our immediate area, within walking distance if
there were sidewalks.


You can't walk anywhere unless there is sidewalks? Figures.


Do you have to work extra hard at being stupid or does it come naturally?

To walk to the three schools in our immediate area, you'd have to walk
on the side of several state roads, one of which is a very narrow
two-laner with lots of blind spots and the other with heavy traffic
during rush hour. For different reasons, both roads are dangerous for
pedestrians.

That's why the county runs school buses to pick up the kids, even though
their schools are within easy walking distance.




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