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iBoaterer[_2_] December 28th 12 02:06 PM

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:42:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

That would make it much easier for the MoCo PoPo and the PGCo PoPo. They
wouldn't have to have a DC PoPo riding with them in order to chase
criminals across the DC line.


They always had a hot pursuit policy when I was there. The cops could
continue a pursuit across the line either way.


Yep, that fairy tale about cops ending the chase at a boundary, be it
city, county unless it's another country is rubbish.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 28th 12 02:07 PM

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In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On 12/28/12 12:11 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:54:21 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/27/12 2:41 PM,
wrote:

Critical mass? You mean population? D.C. has about the same population
as Alaska, Vermont, and North Dakota though, obviously, much smaller
geographic area.

D.C. doesn't want to be part of another state. It wants its own
political clout and independence.

Alaska and North Dakota have natural resources and a real economy. DC
just sucks on the government tit. The federal government is the only
industry they have. A lot of that is moving north to the I-270
corridor. The biggest industry downtown is K street. (essentially
legal bribery)


So what?


What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?


Tourism.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 28th 12 05:02 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?


Tourism.


Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.


Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Which says in part:

"As the seat of the U.S. government and heart of American democracy,
Washington, D.C., is a city that relies heavily on the tourism industry
? so much so that visitors regularly generate more than half of the
city's annual sales taxes.
So it should come as something of a relief to city officials, especially
after a year in which they were forced to close a $322 million budget
gap, that the $5 billion tourism industry grew strongly in 2010 and is
expected to close out 2011 on a high note. Regardless, a weaker forecast
for conventions means the city will have to continue drawing in leisure
travelers, with more and more of them coming from abroad, while picking
up the convention pace in the coming years.
"In 2012 we won't realize as many citywide [conventions] as we did in
2011, however we're optimistic as we're going to focus our efforts and
initiatives on going after the domestic market and the international
visitors market," said Elliott Ferguson, president and CEO of
Destination DC, the city's tourism marketing agency.
In 2010, according to the agency, 15.54 million domestic visitors
flocked to the nation's capital, a 5.1 percent increase over the prior
year. They spent $5.68 billion, up 8.2 percent from 2009, with lodging
and food accounting for a large portion of that total. Things seem to be
looking up for 2011, too. Comparing July 2010 to the same month a year
later, occupancy is roughly holding steady, while average daily rates
ticked up 1.5 percent, according to Smith Travel Research"

iBoaterer[_2_] December 28th 12 06:48 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?

Tourism.

Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.


Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Those "conventions" and most of the hotel stays are to lobby congress.
The price of a decent hotel in DC is far beyond the budget of the
average tourist. (you have to have "lobbyist money for that)

Of course there are still some flop houses that you might be able to
afford but I wouldn't go there without a police escort.

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)


Gee, that's not what the cite says......


[email protected] December 28th 12 07:06 PM

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On Friday, December 28, 2012 1:26:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)


Last time we were there we stayed at the Crowne Plaza near the Whitehouse. I had a bunch of points I turned in for the room (from work travel), so I'm not sure how much the rooms were, but not cheap.

We spent the money on other things instead. Nice restaraunts and car rental to drive to Mount Vernon and a couple of other places. Ate at The Palm one night and saw Dee Dee Myers there. Rode the underground tram from the Capital to the Senate Building (was a while back). Walked a LOT. Everyone needs to go at least once in their lives.

ESAD December 28th 12 07:15 PM

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On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.



I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.

BAR[_2_] December 28th 12 11:07 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?


Tourism.


Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.


I don't believe that Booger has spent much time in DC.

GuzzisRule December 29th 12 01:23 AM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:11:59 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:54:21 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/27/12 2:41 PM,
wrote:

Critical mass? You mean population? D.C. has about the same population
as Alaska, Vermont, and North Dakota though, obviously, much smaller
geographic area.

D.C. doesn't want to be part of another state. It wants its own
political clout and independence.


Alaska and North Dakota have natural resources and a real economy. DC
just sucks on the government tit. The federal government is the only
industry they have. A lot of that is moving north to the I-270
corridor. The biggest industry downtown is K street. (essentially
legal bribery)


You seem to forget about all that Mideaster Heroin that's flooding the market in DC.

ESAD December 29th 12 01:29 AM

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On 12/28/12 8:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:11:59 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:54:21 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/27/12 2:41 PM,
wrote:

Critical mass? You mean population? D.C. has about the same population
as Alaska, Vermont, and North Dakota though, obviously, much smaller
geographic area.

D.C. doesn't want to be part of another state. It wants its own
political clout and independence.


Alaska and North Dakota have natural resources and a real economy. DC
just sucks on the government tit. The federal government is the only
industry they have. A lot of that is moving north to the I-270
corridor. The biggest industry downtown is K street. (essentially
legal bribery)


You seem to forget about all that Mideaster Heroin that's flooding the market in DC.


From where, down the street from you in nearby Springfield?

Tom Nofinger December 29th 12 07:36 AM

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On Friday, December 28, 2012 7:29:40 PM UTC-6, ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 8:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:11:59 -0500, wrote:




On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:54:21 -0500, ESAD wrote:




On 12/27/12 2:41 PM,
wrote:



Critical mass? You mean population? D.C. has about the same population


as Alaska, Vermont, and North Dakota though, obviously, much smaller


geographic area.




D.C. doesn't want to be part of another state. It wants its own


political clout and independence.




Alaska and North Dakota have natural resources and a real economy. DC


just sucks on the government tit. The federal government is the only


industry they have. A lot of that is moving north to the I-270


corridor. The biggest industry downtown is K street. (essentially


legal bribery)




You seem to forget about all that Mideaster Heroin that's flooding the market in DC.






From where, down the street from you in nearby Springfield?


So, Herr Krause, you admit to know where the good drugs are. That's understandable.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 02:15 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:48:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?

Tourism.

Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.

Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Those "conventions" and most of the hotel stays are to lobby congress.
The price of a decent hotel in DC is far beyond the budget of the
average tourist. (you have to have "lobbyist money for that)

Of course there are still some flop houses that you might be able to
afford but I wouldn't go there without a police escort.

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)


Gee, that's not what the cite says......


Why would a puff piece about how wonderful DC is tell the truth about
how many people don't stay there?
You also notice they said there were not enough hotel rooms and that
DC was $322 million in the hole (in spite of huge federal infusions
of money)


As suspected. Please cite which statistics in the article you dispute
and give cites to what you believe the real numbers are......

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 02:16 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Friday, December 28, 2012 7:29:40 PM UTC-6, ESAD wrote:
On 12/28/12 8:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:11:59 -0500,
wrote:



On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:54:21 -0500, ESAD wrote:




On 12/27/12 2:41 PM,
wrote:



Critical mass? You mean population? D.C. has about the same population


as Alaska, Vermont, and North Dakota though, obviously, much smaller


geographic area.




D.C. doesn't want to be part of another state. It wants its own


political clout and independence.




Alaska and North Dakota have natural resources and a real economy. DC


just sucks on the government tit. The federal government is the only


industry they have. A lot of that is moving north to the I-270


corridor. The biggest industry downtown is K street. (essentially


legal bribery)




You seem to forget about all that Mideaster Heroin that's flooding the market in DC.






From where, down the street from you in nearby Springfield?


So, Herr Krause, you admit to know where the good drugs are. That's understandable.


He's also a tax cheat you know..

GuzzisRule December 29th 12 02:18 PM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.



I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also! There is plenty to do south of
Pennsylvania Avenue. Visiting all the free stuff will take a couple weeks.

GuzzisRule December 29th 12 02:20 PM

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:48:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?

Tourism.

Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.

Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Those "conventions" and most of the hotel stays are to lobby congress.
The price of a decent hotel in DC is far beyond the budget of the
average tourist. (you have to have "lobbyist money for that)

Of course there are still some flop houses that you might be able to
afford but I wouldn't go there without a police escort.

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)


Gee, that's not what the cite says......


It's an advertisement. Notice the reference to the 'backyard'. That's where folks stay - Virginia
and Maryland. It's why the Metro is so crowded whenever something is happening in DC. Folks are
coming in from MD and VA.

ESAD December 29th 12 02:27 PM

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On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.



I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!



How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?


GuzzisRule December 29th 12 03:26 PM

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM, wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!



How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?


Oh ESAD!

I'm not so stupid as to spend time walking around north of Pennsylvania Ave.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 03:26 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:48:16 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:07:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



What does DC have to offer the US in the form of revenue and expansion?

Tourism.

Most people who visit DC stay in Maryland or Virginia.
Other than street vendors, DC does not make much money off of them,.
Virtually all of the attractions are free.
Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.

Those would be the areas the government would hold on to in any
circumstance.

Tourists need food, transportation, lodging, etc. Ever look at the taxes
generated by lodging alone? Tourists generate more than half of D.C's
sales tax alone!!

http://tinyurl.com/cmryjf3

Those "conventions" and most of the hotel stays are to lobby congress.
The price of a decent hotel in DC is far beyond the budget of the
average tourist. (you have to have "lobbyist money for that)

Of course there are still some flop houses that you might be able to
afford but I wouldn't go there without a police escort.

Most tourists will stay in Maryland or Virginia and hop the Metro to
get into town. The last time we were there we stayed in Old Town
(Alexandria)


Gee, that's not what the cite says......


It's an advertisement. Notice the reference to the 'backyard'. That's where folks stay - Virginia
and Maryland. It's why the Metro is so crowded whenever something is happening in DC. Folks are
coming in from MD and VA.


Cite?

ESAD December 29th 12 05:22 PM

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On 12/29/12 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:18:54 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM,
wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also! There is plenty to do south of
Pennsylvania Avenue. Visiting all the free stuff will take a couple weeks.


I just saw a link for DIJ.GOV where they were mapping crime hot spots
and on page 4 they use the area north of Pa ave as the example.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...letin-v1i1.pdf


Your hot spots map from five years ago?

"This is a hot spot map for robberies during 2007 in Washington, D.C.
The Adams Morgan-Columbia Heights area, U Street/Shaw, and Chinatown
have experienced gentrification in recent years, with homicide rates
going down."

Hey, if it keeps racist white trash like Herring out of DC...

ESAD December 29th 12 05:27 PM

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On 12/29/12 12:18 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!



How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?


Twice, also, does being shot at count?


I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed. I sometimes go into pretty rough neighborhoods,
too, since several of my clients are involved with investments and
construction in places like Anacostia. I've been "panhandled," of
course. My wife has been working almost every weekday in DC for 15
years, and in three different locations, travels all over DC for various
meetings and functions, and traveled via Metro hundreds of times to a
college campus on the fringe of several "rough" neighborhoods. She's
never been robbed or mugged, either.

Maybe we're just lucky, or maybe we don't look away in horror or disdain
at poor people, or people with different skin colors.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 05:34 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!



How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?


Twice, also, does being shot at count?


The first time I was ever in DC, 17 years old, spent most of the summer
in Florida, time to go back north for school, Greyhound bus. Change
buses in DC, miss first one, had to wait 12 hours. It's dark, decide to
go wander around and get a bite to eat. Made it about a half a block,
turned around and came back. Must have been approached by 10 different
types of thugs. Stayed the rest of the time in the Greyhound station
which wasn't much better.

ESAD December 29th 12 05:37 PM

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On 12/29/12 12:34 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?


Twice, also, does being shot at count?


The first time I was ever in DC, 17 years old, spent most of the summer
in Florida, time to go back north for school, Greyhound bus. Change
buses in DC, miss first one, had to wait 12 hours. It's dark, decide to
go wander around and get a bite to eat. Made it about a half a block,
turned around and came back. Must have been approached by 10 different
types of thugs. Stayed the rest of the time in the Greyhound station
which wasn't much better.



When was this, last year?

You probably looked like a runaway eager to turn a trick.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 05:50 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 12:12 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:18:54 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM,
wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also! There is plenty to do south of
Pennsylvania Avenue. Visiting all the free stuff will take a couple weeks.


I just saw a link for DIJ.GOV where they were mapping crime hot spots
and on page 4 they use the area north of Pa ave as the example.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...letin-v1i1.pdf


Your hot spots map from five years ago?

"This is a hot spot map for robberies during 2007 in Washington, D.C.
The Adams Morgan-Columbia Heights area, U Street/Shaw, and Chinatown
have experienced gentrification in recent years, with homicide rates
going down."

Hey, if it keeps racist white trash like Herring out of DC...


Isn't that about the time you were stiffing your creditors and not
paying your property taxes?

[email protected] December 29th 12 05:53 PM

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On Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:37:52 PM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 12/29/12 12:34 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,


says...




On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:




On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:




Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!






How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?




Twice, also, does being shot at count?




The first time I was ever in DC, 17 years old, spent most of the summer


in Florida, time to go back north for school, Greyhound bus. Change


buses in DC, miss first one, had to wait 12 hours. It's dark, decide to


go wander around and get a bite to eat. Made it about a half a block,


turned around and came back. Must have been approached by 10 different


types of thugs. Stayed the rest of the time in the Greyhound station


which wasn't much better.








When was this, last year?



You probably looked like a runaway eager to turn a trick.


~~ SNERK ~~

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 05:53 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 12:18 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:


Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?


Twice, also, does being shot at count?


I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.


How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?

I sometimes go into pretty rough neighborhoods,
too, since several of my clients are involved with investments and
construction in places like Anacostia. I've been "panhandled," of
course.


Do you alleged "clients" pay their taxes, unlike you?

My wife has been working almost every weekday in DC for 15
years, and in three different locations, travels all over DC for various
meetings and functions, and traveled via Metro hundreds of times to a
college campus on the fringe of several "rough" neighborhoods. She's
never been robbed or mugged, either.


Hell no, she's a BIG old bruiser!

Maybe we're just lucky, or maybe we don't look away in horror or disdain
at poor people, or people with different skin colors.


You should be the one people are looking at in "disdain" because you are
a low life tax cheat.



iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 05:54 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 12:34 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?

Twice, also, does being shot at count?


The first time I was ever in DC, 17 years old, spent most of the summer
in Florida, time to go back north for school, Greyhound bus. Change
buses in DC, miss first one, had to wait 12 hours. It's dark, decide to
go wander around and get a bite to eat. Made it about a half a block,
turned around and came back. Must have been approached by 10 different
types of thugs. Stayed the rest of the time in the Greyhound station
which wasn't much better.



When was this, last year?

You probably looked like a runaway eager to turn a trick.


It was probably when you were cheating the local government out of the
taxes you didn't pay.

BAR[_2_] December 29th 12 06:11 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 12:12 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:18:54 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:15 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/28/12 11:38 AM,
wrote:

Tourists seldom get out of the national monument area.
Tour guides advise them to stay south of Pennsylvania avenue.


I've never heard anyone say "stay south of Pennsylvania Avenue."

Lots of museums, sights, restaurants, venues of all kinds, the
convention center, and at least 100 other interesting places are north
of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also! There is plenty to do south of
Pennsylvania Avenue. Visiting all the free stuff will take a couple weeks.


I just saw a link for DIJ.GOV where they were mapping crime hot spots
and on page 4 they use the area north of Pa ave as the example.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...letin-v1i1.pdf


Your hot spots map from five years ago?

"This is a hot spot map for robberies during 2007 in Washington, D.C.
The Adams Morgan-Columbia Heights area, U Street/Shaw, and Chinatown
have experienced gentrification in recent years, with homicide rates
going down."

Hey, if it keeps racist white trash like Herring out of DC...


The gun homicide rate dropped after the Heller decision.



ESAD December 29th 12 06:44 PM

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On 12/29/12 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:22:56 -0500, ESAD wrote:

I just saw a link for DIJ.GOV where they were mapping crime hot spots
and on page 4 they use the area north of Pa ave as the example.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...letin-v1i1.pdf


Your hot spots map from five years ago?

"This is a hot spot map for robberies during 2007 in Washington, D.C.
The Adams Morgan-Columbia Heights area, U Street/Shaw, and Chinatown
have experienced gentrification in recent years, with homicide rates
going down."

Hey, if it keeps racist white trash like Herring out of DC...


That is really only 3 years old in statistical terms. The FBI
reporting is 2 years behind.

I doubt it really looks any different today. That map could be 30
years old and it would still look about the same.

I bet if they went out East of the Anacostia river the whole map would
be a hot spot, all the way out past the beltway.


Many parts of Anacostia are pretty grim. About once every two weeks, I
have to drive to DC rather than take the commuter bus or the Metro, and
many times I drive along Pennsylvania Avenue into and out of the city,
right through Anacostia. I've also Metro'd in to see the Nats play, and
that goes right through Anacostia, too. Over the years, I've been on
commerical and large scale residential jobsites all over DC, including
Anacostia. I've parked in Anacostia and walked several blocks to job
sites when onsite parking wasn't available. You'd think by now I would
have seen a few reasons for those hot spots, eh?

The only places I've been shot at in the United States have been in the
South, once in Mississippi and once in south Louisiana, and both times
the shooter was white, and the areas were rural.

ESAD December 29th 12 06:46 PM

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On 12/29/12 1:41 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:34:22 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?

Twice, also, does being shot at count?


The first time I was ever in DC, 17 years old, spent most of the summer
in Florida, time to go back north for school, Greyhound bus. Change
buses in DC, miss first one, had to wait 12 hours. It's dark, decide to
go wander around and get a bite to eat. Made it about a half a block,
turned around and came back. Must have been approached by 10 different
types of thugs. Stayed the rest of the time in the Greyhound station
which wasn't much better.


Yup 11th and New York Avenue is one of those hot spot areas. It is
just a few blocks from where I was robbed ... about 10PM



New York at 11th has been almost totally redeveloped and gentrified. The
old convention center is gone. Last week, I had a little time before a
meeting in Chinatown and walked 15th down NY Avenue and then into the
eastern edge of Chinatown. Lots of other people were walking, too.

ESAD December 29th 12 07:06 PM

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On 12/29/12 1:48 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.


How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?



I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.

That's more than twice as many years as your 14.

Most of my employers or clients were and are in downtown D.C., either on
K Street, or near K on 15, or damned close. I did work for a 4A's ad
agency in Georgetown for four years, on 31st, in an office building
adjacent to the canal and down a block from M Street. For eight years, I
had offices right across the street from Mother AFL-CIO. One of my
current clients is in an office building in the 1000 block of
Connecticut Avenue. not far from 1120.

I never lived in the District, though.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 07:32 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 1:48 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.

How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?



I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.


You are nothing short of a ****ing liar. You lived in Florida. Your tax
cheating records indicate such.



[email protected] December 29th 12 08:17 PM

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On Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:44:00 PM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 12/29/12 1:35 PM, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:22:56 -0500, ESAD wrote:




I just saw a link for DIJ.GOV where they were mapping crime hot spots


and on page 4 they use the area north of Pa ave as the example.




http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...letin-v1i1.pdf





Your hot spots map from five years ago?




"This is a hot spot map for robberies during 2007 in Washington, D.C.


The Adams Morgan-Columbia Heights area, U Street/Shaw, and Chinatown


have experienced gentrification in recent years, with homicide rates


going down."




Hey, if it keeps racist white trash like Herring out of DC...




That is really only 3 years old in statistical terms. The FBI


reporting is 2 years behind.




I doubt it really looks any different today. That map could be 30


years old and it would still look about the same.




I bet if they went out East of the Anacostia river the whole map would


be a hot spot, all the way out past the beltway.






Many parts of Anacostia are pretty grim. About once every two weeks, I

have to drive to DC rather than take the commuter bus or the Metro, and

many times I drive along Pennsylvania Avenue into and out of the city,

right through Anacostia. I've also Metro'd in to see the Nats play, and

that goes right through Anacostia, too. Over the years, I've been on

commerical and large scale residential jobsites all over DC, including

Anacostia. I've parked in Anacostia and walked several blocks to job

sites when onsite parking wasn't available. You'd think by now I would

have seen a few reasons for those hot spots, eh?



The only places I've been shot at in the United States have been in the

South, once in Mississippi and once in south Louisiana, and both times

the shooter was white, and the areas were rural.


Kevin's kin??

ESAD December 29th 12 08:24 PM

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On 12/29/12 3:17 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:44:00 PM UTC-4, ESAD wrote:
On 12/29/12 1:35 PM,
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:22:56 -0500, ESAD wrote:




I just saw a link for DIJ.GOV where they were mapping crime hot spots


and on page 4 they use the area north of Pa ave as the example.




http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology...letin-v1i1.pdf





Your hot spots map from five years ago?




"This is a hot spot map for robberies during 2007 in Washington, D.C.


The Adams Morgan-Columbia Heights area, U Street/Shaw, and Chinatown


have experienced gentrification in recent years, with homicide rates


going down."




Hey, if it keeps racist white trash like Herring out of DC...




That is really only 3 years old in statistical terms. The FBI


reporting is 2 years behind.




I doubt it really looks any different today. That map could be 30


years old and it would still look about the same.




I bet if they went out East of the Anacostia river the whole map would


be a hot spot, all the way out past the beltway.






Many parts of Anacostia are pretty grim. About once every two weeks, I

have to drive to DC rather than take the commuter bus or the Metro, and

many times I drive along Pennsylvania Avenue into and out of the city,

right through Anacostia. I've also Metro'd in to see the Nats play, and

that goes right through Anacostia, too. Over the years, I've been on

commerical and large scale residential jobsites all over DC, including

Anacostia. I've parked in Anacostia and walked several blocks to job

sites when onsite parking wasn't available. You'd think by now I would

have seen a few reasons for those hot spots, eh?



The only places I've been shot at in the United States have been in the

South, once in Mississippi and once in south Louisiana, and both times

the shooter was white, and the areas were rural.


Kevin's kin??



The first was stupid enough to have been. The second was during an
organizing drive for oil rig supply crews, and the shooter was just an
asshole guard who thought (wrongfully) that it was "illegal" to set up a
picket line on a public sidewalk outside the yard's main gate.

ESAD December 29th 12 08:25 PM

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On 12/29/12 3:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:06:28 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 1:48 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.

How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?


I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.

That's more than twice as many years as your 14.

Most of my employers or clients were and are in downtown D.C., either on
K Street, or near K on 15, or damned close. I did work for a 4A's ad
agency in Georgetown for four years, on 31st, in an office building
adjacent to the canal and down a block from M Street. For eight years, I
had offices right across the street from Mother AFL-CIO. One of my
current clients is in an office building in the 1000 block of
Connecticut Avenue. not far from 1120.

I never lived in the District, though.


The 14 years was 24/7/365
I lived in PG for another 27 years after I left DC, most of the time,
within a mile of Southern Avenue. Most of my friends were still in DC
I have spent a lot of time in DC.

Pennsylvania avenue is not the same as Minnesota avenue or what
happens when you get a few blocks off of the main drag.



I've been pretty much everywhere in Anacostia.

BAR[_2_] December 29th 12 08:50 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 3:13 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:06:28 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 1:48 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.

How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?


I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.

That's more than twice as many years as your 14.

Most of my employers or clients were and are in downtown D.C., either on
K Street, or near K on 15, or damned close. I did work for a 4A's ad
agency in Georgetown for four years, on 31st, in an office building
adjacent to the canal and down a block from M Street. For eight years, I
had offices right across the street from Mother AFL-CIO. One of my
current clients is in an office building in the 1000 block of
Connecticut Avenue. not far from 1120.

I never lived in the District, though.


The 14 years was 24/7/365
I lived in PG for another 27 years after I left DC, most of the time,
within a mile of Southern Avenue. Most of my friends were still in DC
I have spent a lot of time in DC.

Pennsylvania avenue is not the same as Minnesota avenue or what
happens when you get a few blocks off of the main drag.



I've been pretty much everywhere in Anacostia.


You can do that in a weekend.



BAR[_2_] December 29th 12 08:59 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 12/29/12 1:48 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.

How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?



I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.

That's more than twice as many years as your 14.

Most of my employers or clients were and are in downtown D.C., either on
K Street, or near K on 15, or damned close. I did work for a 4A's ad
agency in Georgetown for four years, on 31st, in an office building
adjacent to the canal and down a block from M Street. For eight years, I
had offices right across the street from Mother AFL-CIO. One of my
current clients is in an office building in the 1000 block of
Connecticut Avenue. not far from 1120.

I never lived in the District, though.


What's your point? I've worked in DC more than you and I lived in the DC
area for more years than you have.



JustWait[_2_] December 29th 12 09:04 PM

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On 12/29/2012 1:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:27:36 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 12:18 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:27:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 9:18 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:

Absolutely - and it's a good place to get mugged or robbed also!


How many times have you been mugged or robbed in DC?

Twice, also, does being shot at count?


I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed. I sometimes go into pretty rough neighborhoods,
too, since several of my clients are involved with investments and
construction in places like Anacostia. I've been "panhandled," of
course. My wife has been working almost every weekday in DC for 15
years, and in three different locations, travels all over DC for various
meetings and functions, and traveled via Metro hundreds of times to a
college campus on the fringe of several "rough" neighborhoods. She's
never been robbed or mugged, either.

Maybe we're just lucky, or maybe we don't look away in horror or disdain
at poor people, or people with different skin colors.


The guy who robbed me on 11th street was white. The knife sort of took
it out of the "pan handle" category.

The other 2 incidents were late at night, one just off Nichols Avenue
(now MLK), one on Wheeler Road.


Why the hell would you keep going back?



JustWait[_2_] December 29th 12 09:06 PM

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On 12/29/2012 3:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:06:28 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 1:48 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.

How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?


I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.

That's more than twice as many years as your 14.

Most of my employers or clients were and are in downtown D.C., either on
K Street, or near K on 15, or damned close. I did work for a 4A's ad
agency in Georgetown for four years, on 31st, in an office building
adjacent to the canal and down a block from M Street. For eight years, I
had offices right across the street from Mother AFL-CIO. One of my
current clients is in an office building in the 1000 block of
Connecticut Avenue. not far from 1120.

I never lived in the District, though.


The 14 years was 24/7/365
I lived in PG for another 27 years after I left DC, most of the time,
within a mile of Southern Avenue. Most of my friends were still in DC
I have spent a lot of time in DC.

Pennsylvania avenue is not the same as Minnesota avenue or what
happens when you get a few blocks off of the main drag.


Really guys.. do any of you believe harry spent any time there, we all
know where he has been 24/7 for at least the last 15 years... right here...

iBoaterer[_2_] December 29th 12 10:26 PM

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In article , says...

On 12/29/2012 3:13 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:06:28 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 1:48 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.

How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?


I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.

That's more than twice as many years as your 14.

Most of my employers or clients were and are in downtown D.C., either on
K Street, or near K on 15, or damned close. I did work for a 4A's ad
agency in Georgetown for four years, on 31st, in an office building
adjacent to the canal and down a block from M Street. For eight years, I
had offices right across the street from Mother AFL-CIO. One of my
current clients is in an office building in the 1000 block of
Connecticut Avenue. not far from 1120.

I never lived in the District, though.


The 14 years was 24/7/365
I lived in PG for another 27 years after I left DC, most of the time,
within a mile of Southern Avenue. Most of my friends were still in DC
I have spent a lot of time in DC.

Pennsylvania avenue is not the same as Minnesota avenue or what
happens when you get a few blocks off of the main drag.


Really guys.. do any of you believe harry spent any time there, we all
know where he has been 24/7 for at least the last 15 years... right here...


****, you know how it is, Harry has done more, done it better, been
better places, everything he has is better, and on and on. But then, the
truth comes out, and gee, he's not a profitable shopping center owner,
he's a deadbeat who doesn't pay his bills or taxes.

ESAD December 29th 12 11:28 PM

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On 12/29/12 4:16 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:06:28 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/29/12 1:48 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:53:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

I spend a lot more time in the DC than you do or did, and I've never
been mugged or robbed.

How do you know that you've spent more time in DC than he?


I know that is bull**** since I lived in Southeast DC for 14 years
and went to school in Northwest for 4 more. My office at IBM was 1120
Connecticut Ave for 10 years and I worked at the education center at
1801 K but I just let Harry go on that one.
I am sure I spent more time visiting friends in DC after I moved to PG
county than Harry was there.


I've lived and worked in the DC area for 35 years, total.

That's more than twice as many years as your 14.

Most of my employers or clients were and are in downtown D.C., either on
K Street, or near K on 15, or damned close. I did work for a 4A's ad
agency in Georgetown for four years, on 31st, in an office building
adjacent to the canal and down a block from M Street. For eight years, I
had offices right across the street from Mother AFL-CIO. One of my
current clients is in an office building in the 1000 block of
Connecticut Avenue. not far from 1120.

I never lived in the District, though.


For your browsing pleasure


http://www.spotcrime.com/dc/washington


What's your point, that there is crime in DC? What a revelation.

ESAD December 29th 12 11:29 PM

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On 12/29/12 5:42 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:06:38 -0500, JustWait
wrote:


Pennsylvania avenue is not the same as Minnesota avenue or what
happens when you get a few blocks off of the main drag.


Really guys.. do any of you believe harry spent any time there, we all
know where he has been 24/7 for at least the last 15 years... right here...


I imagine Harry makes it a point of never letting the sun go down on
him, west of the Calvert County line.


Your imagination is, of course, wrong.


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