On 12/24/12 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:37:00 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/24/12 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:30:25 -0500, ESAD wrote:

"It will be a sad day for this country if children can safely attend
their classes only under the protection of armed guards."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower on the violence aimed at black Americans
in September 1957 at Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Eisenhower sent in the troops to protect children from the terrorists
who were keeping them from attending school.

There have been cops in middle and high schools here for decades but
they are only there to catch a kid smoking a joint in the bathroom.

The cop at Columbine was under specific orders not to engage an active
shooter. I agree that to actually be effective a "guard" should get
extensive training and that should be in conjunction with a planned
procedure about what everyone else will be doing.


Back in my high school days, we had a plainclothes police officer
assigned permanently. He was armed, but I doubt he ever had to use his
pistol, not back then. If memory serves, his name was "Al," everyone
knew him and he seem to know everybody. In those days, high schoolers at
our school engaged in pretty harmless mischief, not expensive vandali$m,
and there weren't many fights. The cafeteria food was just awful, so
many juniors and seniors "snuck" off campus to run over to an Italian
deli a long block away and get a good sub sandwich. That infuriated the
assistant principal, but not Al. He also strolled over there for lunch a
couple of days a week, usually in the midst of a small crowd of
students. For Al, a kid wanting a decent lunch was not an "offense"
worth his time or trouble.

Life was a lot simpler and safer in the early 1960's.

We never had cops in schools in the 60s. I went to high school in the
1700 block of G st NW so we had plenty of places to go for a quick
bite. They did not have the closed campus thing either. If you were
not in class you could go. In fact they had a no smoking within a
block of school thing so guys would go over to F street for a quick
smoke between classes. The back steps of the school was a great short
cut, through the alley. There was also a great little mom and pop
tavern at 18th and F that had a passable 35 cent hamburger (vs a dime
for what midwesterners call a "slider" at Little Tavern). A beer was
25 cents if you could trick them into believing you were 18.


I really don't know why we had an actual cop in the school. Perhaps he
was injured on his job as a cop and the school duty was a way to fill
out his years for a full retirement. In any event, he was a very decent
guy, well-liked and never one to bust your chops for minor "infractions."

My recollection is that 17th & G is an area of mostly federal office
buildings these days.

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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:48:01 -0500, ESAD wrote:

My recollection is that 17th & G is an area of mostly federal office
buildings these days.

G street dead ends into EOB on the east and is commercial going west.
AAA was on the SW corner. There was a parking lot and then our school.
The rest of the block was the YMCA. We were in the original YMCA
building before they built the 2 new ones. The Pa ave side block was a
collection of multi story offices with small businesses on the street
level.

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Is this New Haven, CT? If so, that original YMCA must have been the
one that I took lessons and got SCUBA certified in 1966.
It was through a club called, "The Yankee Paddlers". Course was
given by ex-Navy divers, (renamed Navy Seals in 1961).

On 12/25/12 12:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:


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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:48:01 -0500, ESAD wrote:

My recollection is that 17th & G is an area of mostly federal office
buildings these days.

G street dead ends into EOB on the east and is commercial going west.
AAA was on the SW corner. There was a parking lot and then our school.
The rest of the block was the YMCA. We were in the original YMCA
building before they built the 2 new ones. The Pa ave side block was a
collection of multi story offices with small businesses on the street
level.

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Is this New Haven, CT? If so, that original YMCA must have been the
one that I took lessons and got SCUBA certified in 1966.
It was through a club called, "The Yankee Paddlers". Course was given
by ex-Navy divers, (renamed Navy Seals in 1961).



No, Washington, D.C. The 'Y' in New Haven was on Chapel and Howe, I
think. Used to go there many Saturdays with a couple of buddies in the
winter to use the gym, play pickup b'ball, and go swimming. It was a two
block walk from the bus stop. The Y was down the street from Hulls
Hobbies, another great place to hang out.

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On 12/25/12 12:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:


wrote in message ...

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:48:01 -0500, ESAD wrote:

My recollection is that 17th & G is an area of mostly federal office
buildings these days.

G street dead ends into EOB on the east and is commercial going west.
AAA was on the SW corner. There was a parking lot and then our school.
The rest of the block was the YMCA. We were in the original YMCA
building before they built the 2 new ones. The Pa ave side block was a
collection of multi story offices with small businesses on the street
level.

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Is this New Haven, CT? If so, that original YMCA must have been the
one that I took lessons and got SCUBA certified in 1966.
It was through a club called, "The Yankee Paddlers". Course was given
by ex-Navy divers, (renamed Navy Seals in 1961).



No, Washington, D.C. The 'Y' in New Haven was on Chapel and Howe, I
think. Used to go there many Saturdays with a couple of buddies in the
winter to use the gym, play pickup b'ball, and go swimming. It was a two
block walk from the bus stop. The Y was down the street from Hulls
Hobbies, another great place to hang out.

Bull****, you said your mother made you stay in your room and take
practice tests, and you also claimed that she didn't let you do anything
that could get you hurt.

On 12/25/12 1:34 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

Bull****, you said your mother made you stay in your room and take
practice tests, and you also claimed that she didn't let you do anything
that could get you hurt.



Yet another fantasy from Loogy iBoaterererer, one of the several
rec.boats dead brains.

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On 12/25/12 1:34 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

Bull****, you said your mother made you stay in your room and take
practice tests, and you also claimed that she didn't let you do anything
that could get you hurt.



Yet another fantasy from Loogy iBoaterererer, one of the several
rec.boats dead brains.

Are you denying that you said your mother made you take practice tests?
Are you denying that you said that your mother didn't allow you to
participate in dangerouse recreational activities?

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...
On 12/25/12 1:34 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

Bull****, you said your mother made you stay in your room and take
practice tests, and you also claimed that she didn't let you do anything
that could get you hurt.


Yet another fantasy from Loogy iBoaterererer, one of the several
rec.boats dead brains.
Are you denying that you said your mother made you take practice tests?
Are you denying that you said that your mother didn't allow you to
participate in dangerouse recreational activities?
He will ignore that like the posts about his unpaid taxes.