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thumper wrote:
On 12/22/2012 4:13 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/21/12 10:10 PM, thumper wrote:

I'm also not impressed by the tactical skills or marksmanship of the
average police officer. Fire away...

I'm afraid you are correct. I see "average" police officers at the
shooting range several times a month. A very few have extraordinary
handgun skills, but most are mediocre shots, even at the "typical"
defensive range of seven yards. Not enough paid time to practice?

And those are the ones at the range practicing.

I think a practice session every so often is required

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On 12/22/2012 2:04 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/22/2012 4:13 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/21/12 10:10 PM, thumper wrote:

I'm also not impressed by the tactical skills or marksmanship of the
average police officer. Fire away...

I'm afraid you are correct. I see "average" police officers at the
shooting range several times a month. A very few have extraordinary
handgun skills, but most are mediocre shots, even at the "typical"
defensive range of seven yards. Not enough paid time to practice?

And those are the ones at the range practicing.


It's not so much the marksmanship of them I am worried about, I am sure
most are at least as good as some kid who spent his life learning to
shoot with a gameboy in his hand... Either way, it's the training around
the firearms I am looking for. Conflict resolution, domestic violence
experience, ability to stop a violent situation without violence....

For those who think arming teachers is the answer...
 

On 12/22/2012 1:10 PM, JustWait wrote:

It's not so much the marksmanship of them I am worried about, I am sure
most are at least as good as some kid who spent his life learning to
shoot with a gameboy in his hand... Either way, it's the training around
the firearms I am looking for. Conflict resolution, domestic violence
experience, ability to stop a violent situation without violence....

Perhaps I should give them more credit for those abilities. I hear
about the tragic exceptions but have no idea how many potentially tragic
incidences are avoided and unreported. The incidents that I have been
personally familiar with have not left a good impression with one exception.

For those who think arming teachers is the answer...
 

On 12/22/2012 7:10 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:15:16 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/21/2012 2:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:47:49 -0800, thumper wrote:

On the contrary, the military seems to get it regarding weapon safety
and yet some of you want to flood the schools and shopping malls with
gun toting amateur security guards ostensibly in the belief it would
reduce injuries and deaths. Unless it's actually about selling more guns?

Some of who?

The NRA.

Are a lot of us NRA folks? I'm not. So, who is the 'you' to whom you refer?

gun advocates

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America

Wayne LaPierre, National Rifle Association CEO

.... quibble with someone else.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 15:09:02 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 12/22/2012 7:10 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:15:16 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 12/21/2012 2:23 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:47:49 -0800, thumper wrote:

On the contrary, the military seems to get it regarding weapon safety
and yet some of you want to flood the schools and shopping malls with
gun toting amateur security guards ostensibly in the belief it would
reduce injuries and deaths. Unless it's actually about selling more guns?

Some of who?

The NRA.

Are a lot of us NRA folks? I'm not. So, who is the 'you' to whom you refer?

gun advocates

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America

Wayne LaPierre, National Rifle Association CEO

... quibble with someone else.

Didn't know any of those guys were in this group. I own guns, so I reckon that makes me a 'gun
advocate', but I sure as hell don't want to flood the schools and malls with guns.

No quibbling, just wondering who the hell you mean when you say 'you'!

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On 12/22/2012 5:59 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/22/2012 1:10 PM, JustWait wrote:

It's not so much the marksmanship of them I am worried about, I am sure
most are at least as good as some kid who spent his life learning to
shoot with a gameboy in his hand... Either way, it's the training around
the firearms I am looking for. Conflict resolution, domestic violence
experience, ability to stop a violent situation without violence....

Perhaps I should give them more credit for those abilities. I hear
about the tragic exceptions but have no idea how many potentially tragic
incidences are avoided and unreported. The incidents that I have been
personally familiar with have not left a good impression with one
exception.

I have lived in the inner city... You see what these guys are capable of
tolerating situations and how "professional" they can remain after..

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On Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:31:33 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/22/2012 5:59 PM, thumper wrote:

On 12/22/2012 1:10 PM, JustWait wrote:



It's not so much the marksmanship of them I am worried about, I am sure

most are at least as good as some kid who spent his life learning to

shoot with a gameboy in his hand... Either way, it's the training around

the firearms I am looking for. Conflict resolution, domestic violence

experience, ability to stop a violent situation without violence....



Perhaps I should give them more credit for those abilities. I hear

about the tragic exceptions but have no idea how many potentially tragic

incidences are avoided and unreported. The incidents that I have been

personally familiar with have not left a good impression with one

exception.



I have lived in the inner city... You see what these guys are capable of

tolerating situations and how "professional" they can remain after..

Just a short while ago you were in here badmouthing police...complaining About corruption and being robbed of hour drug money plus being shoved down a staircase.
Now you are positively drooling over retired cops.
You are a fickle little fillie

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In article , says...

On 12/22/2012 2:04 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/22/2012 4:13 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/21/12 10:10 PM, thumper wrote:

I'm also not impressed by the tactical skills or marksmanship of the
average police officer. Fire away...

I'm afraid you are correct. I see "average" police officers at the
shooting range several times a month. A very few have extraordinary
handgun skills, but most are mediocre shots, even at the "typical"
defensive range of seven yards. Not enough paid time to practice?

And those are the ones at the range practicing.


It's not so much the marksmanship of them I am worried about, I am sure
most are at least as good as some kid who spent his life learning to
shoot with a gameboy in his hand... Either way, it's the training around
the firearms I am looking for. Conflict resolution, domestic violence
experience, ability to stop a violent situation without violence....

Okay, how does the above bull**** coincide with the CT shooter?

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:36:48 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:31:33 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/22/2012 5:59 PM, thumper wrote:

On 12/22/2012 1:10 PM, JustWait wrote:



It's not so much the marksmanship of them I am worried about, I am sure

most are at least as good as some kid who spent his life learning to

shoot with a gameboy in his hand... Either way, it's the training around

the firearms I am looking for. Conflict resolution, domestic violence

experience, ability to stop a violent situation without violence....



Perhaps I should give them more credit for those abilities. I hear

about the tragic exceptions but have no idea how many potentially tragic

incidences are avoided and unreported. The incidents that I have been

personally familiar with have not left a good impression with one

exception.



I have lived in the inner city... You see what these guys are capable of

tolerating situations and how "professional" they can remain after..

Just a short while ago you were in here badmouthing police...complaining About corruption and being robbed of hour drug money plus being shoved down a staircase.
Now you are positively drooling over retired cops.
You are a fickle little fillie

Can there not be good cops and bad cops?

Is it dark up there?

For those who think arming teachers is the answer...
 

On 12/23/2012 10:32 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 18:36:48 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:31:33 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote:
On 12/22/2012 5:59 PM, thumper wrote:

On 12/22/2012 1:10 PM, JustWait wrote:



It's not so much the marksmanship of them I am worried about, I am sure

most are at least as good as some kid who spent his life learning to

shoot with a gameboy in his hand... Either way, it's the training around

the firearms I am looking for. Conflict resolution, domestic violence

experience, ability to stop a violent situation without violence....



Perhaps I should give them more credit for those abilities. I hear

about the tragic exceptions but have no idea how many potentially tragic

incidences are avoided and unreported. The incidents that I have been

personally familiar with have not left a good impression with one

exception.



I have lived in the inner city... You see what these guys are capable of

tolerating situations and how "professional" they can remain after..

Just a short while ago you were in here badmouthing police...complaining About corruption and being robbed of hour drug money plus being shoved down a staircase.
Now you are positively drooling over retired cops.
You are a fickle little fillie

Can there not be good cops and bad cops?

Is it dark up there?


Don't waste your time on harry. We all know he just considers kids toys
for old men...