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Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So
many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? |
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On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:56:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Just where are atheists "taking action" against Christians? Is that your posit because they don't want Christians forcing their beliefs on them? You are just too narrow minded. I'll bet you'd have a fit if someone tried to celebrate a Buddist holiday instead of Christmas, eh? I guess that if you want to believe that some god made everything in the universe and beyond, and it's only 4000 years old,etc. One has to wonder why, when there are starving people, greedy people, crime, war, murder, rape, on and on do you alleged Christians make excuses like God works in mysterious ways? If Christianity is THE religion, then WHY do the concepts of heaven, hell, eternal life, etc., all predate Christianity as does a savior-god who died and was resurrected? Lying and deceiving is part of the Christian evangelic tradition, which started with the founder of Christianity, Paul. Every method of trickery is employed to catch the gullible, the poor, and the ignorant. The missionary is a vulture preying on the destitute and the disadvantaged. Did you not read what the bumper sticker said? I said nothing good or bad about Christianity. I asked a very simple question about the atheist mentality. Perhaps Kevin, it was too difficult for you to understand. |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Understanding that you lack any common sense and require remedial education, Christianity is the dominant religion in the US. Anything that's dominant will attracted detractors, even if in small percentages. Loud mouth extremists always get the attention. Ted Nugent, Kid Rock and Victoria Jackson, for instance. The war on christmas is a ginned up bunch of bull****, btw. |
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On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? === I don't think this was directed at me but allow me to chip in my 2 cents worth. I'm not anti religious at all, not yours, nor anyone else, but I am a *really* strong proponent of the separation of church and state. The founders of this great country were all too familiar with state sponsored religion and wanted no part of it here, and for really good reasons. The first amendment did not happen by accident. There is no place for Sharia law in this country, not the Papal version, not the Islamic version, or any other version. It is my personal opinion that any church which tries to influence legislation or any other governmental process should have their tax exemption revoked. The subversion of the Republican Party by religious zealots will ultimately lead to its downfall, and what a pity that will be. Where else will we find fiscal responsibility? From Wikipedia and Thomas Jefferson regarding separation of church and state: === In the United States, the term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The original text reads: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.[7] The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947.[8] The phrase "separation of church and state" itself does not appear in the United States Constitution. The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." === |
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On 12/7/12 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. Oh...I was going to attach this, but forgot: Roman Catholic Bishops Call for Prayers against Marriage Equality - December 7, 2012 The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has issued a new call to pray to address “life, marriage and religious liberty concerns.” San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone said discriminating against LGBT people in marriage was somehow fundamental to the good of society. Cordileone, who was a leading architect of the Prop 8 campaign in California, recently said people simply “don’t understand” what marriage is. Among the items outlined by the bishops is a second “Fortnight for Freedom” planned for June – likely when the Supreme Court will be ruling on marriage equality. Cordileone and other bishops continue to push anti-LGBT sentiments in the Roman Catholic Church despite the fact that a large majority of Catholics support marriage equality – likely because they are guided by the Golden Rule that calls on people to treat others in accordance with how they’d like to be treated. --- **** you, Archbishop Cordileone. Push whatever you want in your church, but don't push your church onto our civil society. |
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On 12/7/2012 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. John asked about Your tax delinquency and your propensity for being a deadbeat. Have you nothing to say in your defense? |
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says... On 12/7/12 4:22 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:56:24 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Just where are atheists "taking action" against Christians? Is that your posit because they don't want Christians forcing their beliefs on them? You are just too narrow minded. I'll bet you'd have a fit if someone tried to celebrate a Buddist holiday instead of Christmas, eh? I guess that if you want to believe that some god made everything in the universe and beyond, and it's only 4000 years old,etc. One has to wonder why, when there are starving people, greedy people, crime, war, murder, rape, on and on do you alleged Christians make excuses like God works in mysterious ways? If Christianity is THE religion, then WHY do the concepts of heaven, hell, eternal life, etc., all predate Christianity as does a savior-god who died and was resurrected? Lying and deceiving is part of the Christian evangelic tradition, which started with the founder of Christianity, Paul. Every method of trickery is employed to catch the gullible, the poor, and the ignorant. The missionary is a vulture preying on the destitute and the disadvantaged. Did you not read what the bumper sticker said? I said nothing good or bad about Christianity. I asked a very simple question about the atheist mentality. Perhaps Kevin, it was too difficult for you to understand. Maybe that bumper sticker is aimed a CINO's -christians in name only - like you. Pay your taxes Harry! |
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On 12/7/2012 4:44 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/7/2012 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. John asked about Your tax delinquency and your propensity for being a deadbeat. Have you nothing to say in your defense? Rarely I read Harry Krauses bull**** stories... I had a Muslim friend too, talked to him for years. One day I came right out and asked him what he thought of Americans. He said they were all "infidels", and he "hated them all".. I asked "even me", he reluctantly answered "yes". I asked in a perfect world with no retaliation, if he would kill me, he answered a determined, "yes".. I walked out and never went back to his store, but the point is.. you can pretty much take anything Harry Krause says above and write it off, he says anything that supports his own selfish ideology... snerk |
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On 12/7/2012 4:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? === I don't think this was directed at me but allow me to chip in my 2 cents worth. I'm not anti religious at all, not yours, nor anyone else, but I am a *really* strong proponent of the separation of church and state. The founders of this great country were all too familiar with state sponsored religion and wanted no part of it here, and for really good reasons. The first amendment did not happen by accident. You think a Christmas tree is "State Sponsored Religion"? There is no place for Sharia law in this country, not the Papal version, not the Islamic version, or any other version. It is my personal opinion that any church which tries to influence legislation or any other governmental process should have their tax exemption revoked. The subversion of the Republican Party by religious zealots will ultimately lead to its downfall, Well, not if the MSM stops looking for the fringe and portraying it as main stream... You are aware the the MSM is a bit biased, right??? and what a pity that will be. Where else will we find fiscal responsibility? From Wikipedia and Thomas Jefferson regarding separation of church and state: === In the United States, the term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The original text reads: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.[7] The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947.[8] The phrase "separation of church and state" itself does not appear in the United States Constitution. The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." === |
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On 12/7/2012 6:46 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 4:44 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. John asked about Your tax delinquency and your propensity for being a deadbeat. Have you nothing to say in your defense? Rarely I read Harry Krauses bull**** stories... I had a Muslim friend too, talked to him for years. One day I came right out and asked him what he thought of Americans. He said they were all "infidels", and he "hated them all".. I asked "even me", he reluctantly answered "yes". I asked in a perfect world with no retaliation, if he would kill me, he answered a determined, "yes".. I walked out and never went back to his store, but the point is.. you can pretty much take anything Harry Krause says above and write it off, he says anything that supports his own selfish ideology... snerk Oooops, that's not the point, the point is that Muslim Fanatics don't want to Convert you, they want to kill you... That's why you don't see them pushing their religion on you. Now live in a country that they rule like Egypt or Iran and tell me what religion you are then:) |
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On Dec 7, 6:46*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 4:44 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally.. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. John asked about Your tax delinquency and your propensity for being a deadbeat. Have you nothing to say in your defense? Rarely I read Harry Krauses bull**** stories... I had a Muslim friend too, talked to him for years. One day I came right out and asked him what he thought of Americans. He said they were all "infidels", and he "hated them all".. I asked "even me", he reluctantly answered "yes". I asked in a perfect world with no retaliation, if he would kill me, he answered a determined, "yes".. I walked out and never went back to his store, but the point is.. you can pretty much take anything Harry Krause says above and write it off, he says anything that supports his own selfish ideology... snerk Assholes like your " friend " should ALL be lined up and shot. |
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On 12/7/12 7:01 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 6:46 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:44 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. John asked about Your tax delinquency and your propensity for being a deadbeat. Have you nothing to say in your defense? Rarely I read Harry Krauses bull**** stories... I had a Muslim friend too, talked to him for years. One day I came right out and asked him what he thought of Americans. He said they were all "infidels", and he "hated them all".. I asked "even me", he reluctantly answered "yes". I asked in a perfect world with no retaliation, if he would kill me, he answered a determined, "yes".. I walked out and never went back to his store, but the point is.. you can pretty much take anything Harry Krause says above and write it off, he says anything that supports his own selfish ideology... snerk Oooops, that's not the point, the point is that Muslim Fanatics don't want to Convert you, they want to kill you... That's why you don't see them pushing their religion on you. Now live in a country that they rule like Egypt or Iran and tell me what religion you are then:) We don't live in a Muslim country, **** for brains. |
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On 12/7/2012 7:03 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Dec 7, 6:46 pm, JustWait wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:44 PM, Meyer wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. John asked about Your tax delinquency and your propensity for being a deadbeat. Have you nothing to say in your defense? Rarely I read Harry Krauses bull**** stories... I had a Muslim friend too, talked to him for years. One day I came right out and asked him what he thought of Americans. He said they were all "infidels", and he "hated them all".. I asked "even me", he reluctantly answered "yes". I asked in a perfect world with no retaliation, if he would kill me, he answered a determined, "yes".. I walked out and never went back to his store, but the point is.. you can pretty much take anything Harry Krause says above and write it off, he says anything that supports his own selfish ideology... snerk Assholes like your " friend " should ALL be lined up and shot. No, but he certainly shouldn't be here in the US... |
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On 12/7/12 6:51 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/7/2012 4:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? === I don't think this was directed at me but allow me to chip in my 2 cents worth. I'm not anti religious at all, not yours, nor anyone else, but I am a *really* strong proponent of the separation of church and state. The founders of this great country were all too familiar with state sponsored religion and wanted no part of it here, and for really good reasons. The first amendment did not happen by accident. You think a Christmas tree is "State Sponsored Religion"? If the state pays for the tree and/or sets it up on state property, it certainly is state sponsored religion. It is promoting Christmas, a religious holiday. On private property, on church property, it is just a Christmas tree. |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:51:04 -0500, JustWait
wrote: You think a Christmas tree is "State Sponsored Religion"? === Christmas trees are symbols, interesting symbols at that, and yes, we have one. Christmas trees of course have nothing to do with Christianity, at least not originally. Christmas trees were originally part of a northern european tradition of celebrating the winter solstice (shortest day of the year). Those celebrations were widely associated with various pagan religions, so in a way, the trees were religious symbols of sorts even then. As Christianity spread northward from Rome, missionaries of the faith recognized that people would not readily give up all of their old traditions, so the celebration of Christmas was melded in with trees, yule logs and other winter solstice celebrations. At present Christmas trees are very much associated with the celebration of Christmas however, and Christmas (surprise, surprise) is very much a religious holiday, a religion that not everyone participates in. Their argument (the non Christians), is that the government should not be participating in religious symbolism, and perhaps they have a good case. Are non Christians bad people who should be ignored? Not necessarily. There are plenty of people who are good citizens, and of high moral standards, who believe in some other religion or no religion at all. Religion is a very personal thing that depends in no small part on how you were brought up. Government should not be involved in that kind of personal choice. |
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ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. You skipped the question about your taxes. You're a deadbeat. |
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Meyer wrote:
On 12/7/2012 4:40 PM, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 4:28 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:45 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/7/12 2:42 PM, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Too cold for you to troll for stripers in the Bay, eh? What most atheists are against is not religion, per se, but religion that tries to force itself down the throat of non-believers, either directly or indirectly, or religion that uses government or government facilities to further...religion. Oh...the "Muslim" god is the same being as the Christian god and the Jewish god. Muslims are monotheistic. Muslims consider Abraham, Moses and Jesus as prophets of the same god your church venerates. Oh, and didn't you go to college? Apparently you are not aware that Muhammad is not the god of Muslims, but simply their main man prophet. Read the question, Krause. Are you implying that Muslims do not try to force their beliefs upon others? Apparently most atheists don't realize that both Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. Have you paid your taxes yet? Is being a deadbeat good for your serenity? I assumed the bumper sticker that offended you was one you saw locally. I haven't read of any significant cases in this country in which Muslims have tried to force their religious beliefs on others, but there are plenty of instances and cases in this country in which Christians have forced their religious beliefs onto those who don't share those beliefs. In the United States, it is christians who work at forcing their beliefs onto the population. I have seen more than a few devout Muslim women at Tysons' Corner Shopping Center wearing the traditional head and face covering. I didn't notice any of their spouses or brothers confronting non-Muslim women and forcing them to cover up. I've talked to Muslims while in DC, while on the Metro or in museums. None of them asked me if I'd "been saved." When I was consulting at ULLICO, I used to talk almost every day to the well-dressed Black Muslims hawking their newspapers and pies on the corner across the street, and even got the building management to allow them into the lobby and the restroom there. On the other hand, I have frequently been "confronted" by christians seeking converts, and annoyed by christians trying to pass laws to restrict practices they claim are anathema to their religion. For those christians, there are not enough lions. You're a racist turd, herring. And you're easy. John asked about Your tax delinquency and your propensity for being a deadbeat. Have you nothing to say in your defense? Of course not. |
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ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 6:51 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? === I don't think this was directed at me but allow me to chip in my 2 cents worth. I'm not anti religious at all, not yours, nor anyone else, but I am a *really* strong proponent of the separation of church and state. The founders of this great country were all too familiar with state sponsored religion and wanted no part of it here, and for really good reasons. The first amendment did not happen by accident. You think a Christmas tree is "State Sponsored Religion"? If the state pays for the tree and/or sets it up on state property, it certainly is state sponsored religion. It is promoting Christmas, a religious holiday. On private property, on church property, it is just a Christmas tree. If someone doesn't pay their taxes, they are a ****ing deadbeat and their Apple computers, phones, generators and imaginary boats are all ill-gotten gains. |
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On 12/7/2012 4:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
Christmas trees are symbols, interesting symbols at that, and yes, we have one. Christmas trees of course have nothing to do with Christianity, at least not originally. Christmas trees were originally part of a northern european tradition of celebrating the winter solstice (shortest day of the year). Those celebrations were widely associated with various pagan religions, so in a way, the trees were religious symbols of sorts even then. As Christianity spread northward from Rome, missionaries of the faith recognized that people would not readily give up all of their old traditions, so the celebration of Christmas was melded in with trees, yule logs and other winter solstice celebrations. At present Christmas trees are very much associated with the celebration of Christmas however, and Christmas (surprise, surprise) is very much a religious holiday, a religion that not everyone participates in. Their argument (the non Christians), is that the government should not be participating in religious symbolism, and perhaps they have a good case. Are non Christians bad people who should be ignored? Not necessarily. There are plenty of people who are good citizens, and of high moral standards, who believe in some other religion or no religion at all. Religion is a very personal thing that depends in no small part on how you were brought up. Government should not be involved in that kind of personal choice. My wacky fundamentalist christian pastor brother-in-law has never allowed a Christmas tree in his house because of it's pagan origins. I think they're nice but we don't bother now that the kids are gone. |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:36:51 -0800, jps wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Understanding that you lack any common sense and require remedial education, Christianity is the dominant religion in the US. Anything that's dominant will attracted detractors, even if in small percentages. Loud mouth extremists always get the attention. Ted Nugent, Kid Rock and Victoria Jackson, for instance. The war on christmas is a ginned up bunch of bull****, btw. Gotcha. Atheists attack only *dominant* religions. (Not to mention those that won't blow up their car when the wrong bumper sticker is attached!) You folks are a joke. |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:42:52 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? === I don't think this was directed at me but allow me to chip in my 2 cents worth. I'm not anti religious at all, not yours, nor anyone else, but I am a *really* strong proponent of the separation of church and state. The founders of this great country were all too familiar with state sponsored religion and wanted no part of it here, and for really good reasons. The first amendment did not happen by accident. There is no place for Sharia law in this country, not the Papal version, not the Islamic version, or any other version. It is my personal opinion that any church which tries to influence legislation or any other governmental process should have their tax exemption revoked. The subversion of the Republican Party by religious zealots will ultimately lead to its downfall, and what a pity that will be. Where else will we find fiscal responsibility? From Wikipedia and Thomas Jefferson regarding separation of church and state: === In the United States, the term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The original text reads: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.[7] The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947.[8] The phrase "separation of church and state" itself does not appear in the United States Constitution. The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." === Thanks for the free lesson on separation of church and state. That wasn't the issue addressed in the OP however. The question had to do with a bumper sticker and why atheists attack Christians but not Muslims, especially as they worship the same God. |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:14:55 -0500, ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 6:51 PM, JustWait wrote: On 12/7/2012 4:42 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? === I don't think this was directed at me but allow me to chip in my 2 cents worth. I'm not anti religious at all, not yours, nor anyone else, but I am a *really* strong proponent of the separation of church and state. The founders of this great country were all too familiar with state sponsored religion and wanted no part of it here, and for really good reasons. The first amendment did not happen by accident. You think a Christmas tree is "State Sponsored Religion"? If the state pays for the tree and/or sets it up on state property, it certainly is state sponsored religion. It is promoting Christmas, a religious holiday. On private property, on church property, it is just a Christmas tree. After you pay your taxes, you should write a letter to your President and inform him of the fact. I believe he was singing CHRISTmas carols at the lighting of the national CHRISTmas tree the other evening. |
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:48:39 -0500, GuzzisRule
wrote: Gotcha. Atheists attack only *dominant* religions. (Not to mention those that won't blow up their car when the wrong bumper sticker is attached!) === Forget the atheists. I'm much more concerned about the people who want to implement their particular version of sharia law, and unfortunately that seems to include you. |
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:29:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:51:04 -0500, JustWait wrote: You think a Christmas tree is "State Sponsored Religion"? === Christmas trees are symbols, interesting symbols at that, and yes, we have one. Christmas trees of course have nothing to do with Christianity, at least not originally. Christmas trees were originally part of a northern european tradition of celebrating the winter solstice (shortest day of the year). Those celebrations were widely associated with various pagan religions, so in a way, the trees were religious symbols of sorts even then. As Christianity spread northward from Rome, missionaries of the faith recognized that people would not readily give up all of their old traditions, so the celebration of Christmas was melded in with trees, yule logs and other winter solstice celebrations. At present Christmas trees are very much associated with the celebration of Christmas however, and Christmas (surprise, surprise) is very much a religious holiday, a religion that not everyone participates in. Their argument (the non Christians), is that the government should not be participating in religious symbolism, and perhaps they have a good case. Are non Christians bad people who should be ignored? Not necessarily. There are plenty of people who are good citizens, and of high moral standards, who believe in some other religion or no religion at all. Religion is a very personal thing that depends in no small part on how you were brought up. Government should not be involved in that kind of personal choice. I like it when you sound like Chuck Gould. Regardless of all the paganism associated (by some) with the holiday, the tree is still called a CHRISTmas tree. Yesterday evening we went to a Christmas concert put on by the US Navy's 'Country Currents' and 'Sea Chanters' ensembles. Got to see Daryl Duff in one of his last performances, as he is retiring soon. (Daryl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHjlndif1p0 ) (Country Current - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mwi...66A1&index= 1 ) They put on a great show. Daryl Duff's 'Oh Holy Night' received a well-deserved standing ovation. But, I digress....on the way home folks in the car marveled at some of the houses beautifully decorated with Christmas lights. I had the thought that the birth of Jesus (whether you believe the religious aspects thereof or not) has sure provided jobs to a lot of Chinese making Christmas lights guaranteed to last only one season - or less. |
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:33:39 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "So many Christians, So few lions." I suppose it takes no balls to attack Christians. I wonder why I've never seen a bumper sticker saying, "So many Muslims, So few virgins." In fact, I've seen very little of atheists taking action against Muslim activities. Are atheists mostly just afraid of Muslims? Or, is the Muslim God OK with atheists? Muslims, Christians, Jews. What is the difference? The Jes don't seek converts. The Christians talk you into converting. The Muslims hold a knife to your neck and make you convert. LMAO! So true. |
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On 12/8/12 7:51 AM, GuzzisRule wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:42:52 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:42:33 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Are y'all anti-all religions, or only Christianity? === I don't think this was directed at me but allow me to chip in my 2 cents worth. I'm not anti religious at all, not yours, nor anyone else, but I am a *really* strong proponent of the separation of church and state. The founders of this great country were all too familiar with state sponsored religion and wanted no part of it here, and for really good reasons. The first amendment did not happen by accident. There is no place for Sharia law in this country, not the Papal version, not the Islamic version, or any other version. It is my personal opinion that any church which tries to influence legislation or any other governmental process should have their tax exemption revoked. The subversion of the Republican Party by religious zealots will ultimately lead to its downfall, and what a pity that will be. Where else will we find fiscal responsibility? From Wikipedia and Thomas Jefferson regarding separation of church and state: === In the United States, the term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. The original text reads: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.[7] The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947.[8] The phrase "separation of church and state" itself does not appear in the United States Constitution. The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." === Thanks for the free lesson on separation of church and state. That wasn't the issue addressed in the OP however. The question had to do with a bumper sticker and why atheists attack Christians but not Muslims, especially as they worship the same God. You be sure to let us know when a gang of atheists descends on your neighborhood, knocks on doors, and drags christians out of their houses to beat them and convert them. Don't forget to post the videos, too, asshole. |
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On 12/8/2012 8:09 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:48:39 -0500, GuzzisRule wrote: Gotcha. Atheists attack only *dominant* religions. (Not to mention those that won't blow up their car when the wrong bumper sticker is attached!) === Forget the atheists. I'm much more concerned about the people who want to implement their particular version of sharia law, and unfortunately that seems to include you. So, now just wanting freedom of speech and a right to argue for that in court like the other "organized" religions like Atheism, is comparable to wanting Sharia law? Libs is so funny.... |
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