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On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:03:00 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:22:41 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:34:27 -0500,
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:11:00 -0800, jps wrote:


Eager to help the already rich, Republicans can't wait to make
US-based engineering and technical positions more easily available to
foriegn students.

Republican job cremators. They can't abide investing in Americans for
those jobs, because two, three or four years is too long to wait to
satisfy their quarter-to-quarter buddies in the tech sector.

"The STEM Jobs Act, a bill that would make it easier for immigrants
studying science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) in American
universities to work in the U.S., is expected to pass a House vote
today with the support of most Republicans and some Democrats (it
did)."


How is this short term thinking?

We simply can't get American kids to take these courses. They prefer a
softer course load. If we don't hire these immigrants, the job will
follow them back to Asia or India and we will lose the education plus
the job.


The majority of the $ goes back home to the immigrant's family. Less
gets invested in the local economy and our standard of living
continues to deteriorate.


So you don't think the innovation and keeping the job here has any
value at all? Don't these immigrants have to buy houses, cars, food
and all of the other things that make it worth living here?

You sound like you have been listening to Rush too long.


We have plenty of kids available to take these courses. We're selling
those seats to the highest bidders because state colleges are
underfunded and desperate for higher tuitions that come from out of
state (country) students.


You have not explained why all of those "available" American kids are
not taking the science and engineering courses.
Are you trying to say they are being discriminated against?
(not enough "affirmative action" perhaps?)

Maybe we should give Americans an extra 500 points on their SATs and
extra grade points once they get accepted so they can compete.
You admit they already get a big break on tuition


Mental wealth redistribution.

Maybe it is just because our overpriced K-12 government schools suck.
We spend more money on K-12 than any other country, yet we rank around
#26 in math and science. That is the real reason why our kids waste
their college money on courses that only qualify them to be the most
interesting barista at Starbucks.


A whole lot of that is due to the union 'protection' afforded worthless 'teachers' (term used very
loosely here).

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GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:03:00 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:22:41 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:34:27 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:11:00 -0800, jps wrote:


Eager to help the already rich, Republicans can't wait to make
US-based engineering and technical positions more easily available to
foriegn students.

Republican job cremators. They can't abide investing in Americans for
those jobs, because two, three or four years is too long to wait to
satisfy their quarter-to-quarter buddies in the tech sector.

"The STEM Jobs Act, a bill that would make it easier for immigrants
studying science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) in American
universities to work in the U.S., is expected to pass a House vote
today with the support of most Republicans and some Democrats (it
did)."


How is this short term thinking?

We simply can't get American kids to take these courses. They prefer a
softer course load. If we don't hire these immigrants, the job will
follow them back to Asia or India and we will lose the education plus
the job.

The majority of the $ goes back home to the immigrant's family. Less
gets invested in the local economy and our standard of living
continues to deteriorate.


So you don't think the innovation and keeping the job here has any
value at all? Don't these immigrants have to buy houses, cars, food
and all of the other things that make it worth living here?

You sound like you have been listening to Rush too long.


We have plenty of kids available to take these courses. We're selling
those seats to the highest bidders because state colleges are
underfunded and desperate for higher tuitions that come from out of
state (country) students.


You have not explained why all of those "available" American kids are
not taking the science and engineering courses.
Are you trying to say they are being discriminated against?
(not enough "affirmative action" perhaps?)

Maybe we should give Americans an extra 500 points on their SATs and
extra grade points once they get accepted so they can compete.
You admit they already get a big break on tuition


Mental wealth redistribution.

Maybe it is just because our overpriced K-12 government schools suck.
We spend more money on K-12 than any other country, yet we rank around
#26 in math and science. That is the real reason why our kids waste
their college money on courses that only qualify them to be the most
interesting barista at Starbucks.


A whole lot of that is due to the union 'protection' afforded worthless
'teachers' (term used very
loosely here).


BULL****.
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GuzzisRule wrote:
On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:03:00 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:22:41 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:34:27 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:11:00 -0800, jps wrote:


Eager to help the already rich, Republicans can't wait to make
US-based engineering and technical positions more easily available to
foriegn students.

Republican job cremators. They can't abide investing in Americans for
those jobs, because two, three or four years is too long to wait to
satisfy their quarter-to-quarter buddies in the tech sector.

"The STEM Jobs Act, a bill that would make it easier for immigrants
studying science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) in American
universities to work in the U.S., is expected to pass a House vote
today with the support of most Republicans and some Democrats (it
did)."


How is this short term thinking?

We simply can't get American kids to take these courses. They prefer a
softer course load. If we don't hire these immigrants, the job will
follow them back to Asia or India and we will lose the education plus
the job.

The majority of the $ goes back home to the immigrant's family. Less
gets invested in the local economy and our standard of living
continues to deteriorate.

So you don't think the innovation and keeping the job here has any
value at all? Don't these immigrants have to buy houses, cars, food
and all of the other things that make it worth living here?

You sound like you have been listening to Rush too long.


We have plenty of kids available to take these courses. We're selling
those seats to the highest bidders because state colleges are
underfunded and desperate for higher tuitions that come from out of
state (country) students.

You have not explained why all of those "available" American kids are
not taking the science and engineering courses.
Are you trying to say they are being discriminated against?
(not enough "affirmative action" perhaps?)

Maybe we should give Americans an extra 500 points on their SATs and
extra grade points once they get accepted so they can compete.
You admit they already get a big break on tuition


Mental wealth redistribution.

Maybe it is just because our overpriced K-12 government schools suck.
We spend more money on K-12 than any other country, yet we rank around
#26 in math and science. That is the real reason why our kids waste
their college money on courses that only qualify them to be the most
interesting barista at Starbucks.


A whole lot of that is due to the union 'protection' afforded worthless
'teachers' (term used very
loosely here).


BULL****.


Do teachers pay taxes, I think they do. I know there are some union
hacks who don't pay taxes.
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