On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot* (although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam sure! It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

On 12/14/2012 7:40 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

The government doesn't build anything, they fund it.


No, you fund it...

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam sure!
It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

The Federal gov did not fund Hoover Dam. They knew it was needed, but
there were electric contracts and water contracts in place that would pay
for dam. Was required before the Fed's signed off.

ESAD wrote:
On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government
builds the infrastructure that makes business possible.

And WHO is the government, in your mind? I realize it's an entity you
don't send tax money to, but is it politicians, or EVERYONE?

In article 777884126377209988.909032bmckeenospam-
, says...

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam sure!
It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

The Federal gov did not fund Hoover Dam. They knew it was needed, but
there were electric contracts and water contracts in place that would pay
for dam. Was required before the Fed's signed off.



Even before Congress approved the Boulder Canyon Project, the Bureau of
Reclamation was considering what kind of dam should be used. Officials
eventually decided on a massive concrete arch-gravity dam, the design of
which was overseen by the Bureau's chief design engineer John L. Savage.
The monolithic dam would be thick at the bottom and thin near the top,
and would present a convex face towards the water above the dam. The
curving arch of the dam would transmit the water's force into the
abutments, in this case the rock walls of the canyon. The wedge-shaped
dam would be 660 ft (200 m) thick at the bottom, narrowing to 45 ft (14
m) at the top, leaving room for a highway connecting Nevada and Arizona.
[21]
On January 10, 1931, the Bureau made the bid documents available to
interested parties, at five dollars a copy. The government was to
provide the materials; but the contractor was to prepare the site and
build the dam. The dam was described in minute detail, covering 100
pages of text and 76 drawings. A $2 million bid bond was to accompany
each bid; the winner would have to post a $5 million performance bond.
The contractor had seven years to build the dam, or penalties would
ensue.[22]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 09:05:39 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 777884126377209988.909032bmckeenospam-
, says...

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam sure!
It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

The Federal gov did not fund Hoover Dam. They knew it was needed, but
there were electric contracts and water contracts in place that would pay
for dam. Was required before the Fed's signed off.



Even before Congress approved the Boulder Canyon Project, the Bureau of
Reclamation was considering what kind of dam should be used. Officials
eventually decided on a massive concrete arch-gravity dam, the design of
which was overseen by the Bureau's chief design engineer John L. Savage.
The monolithic dam would be thick at the bottom and thin near the top,
and would present a convex face towards the water above the dam. The
curving arch of the dam would transmit the water's force into the
abutments, in this case the rock walls of the canyon. The wedge-shaped
dam would be 660 ft (200 m) thick at the bottom, narrowing to 45 ft (14
m) at the top, leaving room for a highway connecting Nevada and Arizona.
[21]
On January 10, 1931, the Bureau made the bid documents available to
interested parties, at five dollars a copy. The government was to
provide the materials; but the contractor was to prepare the site and
build the dam. The dam was described in minute detail, covering 100
pages of text and 76 drawings. A $2 million bid bond was to accompany
each bid; the winner would have to post a $5 million performance bond.
The contractor had seven years to build the dam, or penalties would
ensue.[22]

The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam
sure! It was built by job creators.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 777884126377209988.909032bmckeenospam-
, says...

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business,
you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government
builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody
should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam
sure!
It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

The Federal gov did not fund Hoover Dam. They knew it was needed, but
there were electric contracts and water contracts in place that would pay
for dam. Was required before the Fed's signed off.



Even before Congress approved the Boulder Canyon Project, the Bureau of
Reclamation was considering what kind of dam should be used. Officials
eventually decided on a massive concrete arch-gravity dam, the design of
which was overseen by the Bureau's chief design engineer John L. Savage.
The monolithic dam would be thick at the bottom and thin near the top,
and would present a convex face towards the water above the dam. The
curving arch of the dam would transmit the water's force into the
abutments, in this case the rock walls of the canyon. The wedge-shaped
dam would be 660 ft (200 m) thick at the bottom, narrowing to 45 ft (14
m) at the top, leaving room for a highway connecting Nevada and Arizona.
[21]
On January 10, 1931, the Bureau made the bid documents available to
interested parties, at five dollars a copy. The government was to
provide the materials; but the contractor was to prepare the site and
build the dam. The dam was described in minute detail, covering 100
pages of text and 76 drawings. A $2 million bid bond was to accompany
each bid; the winner would have to post a $5 million performance bond.
The contractor had seven years to build the dam, or penalties would
ensue.[22]


-----------------------

True enough. But the government chose the wrong location and the dam was
built further upstream, and there were enough contracts for water and
electricity that the Fed's did not have to spend the money to build the dam.
Herbert Hoover required the contracts before the Federal Government would
sign off on the project. The location had been studied since about 1900, so
the general location was known. The financing was the problem, and Hoover
told his people to get contracts to cover the money. Seems as if the
Presidents of the USA for the last bunch of years could learn from the
fiscal responsibility of Hoover.

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 777884126377209988.909032bmckeenospam-
, says...

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business,
you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government
builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody
should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam
sure!
It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

The Federal gov did not fund Hoover Dam. They knew it was needed, but
there were electric contracts and water contracts in place that would pay
for dam. Was required before the Fed's signed off.



Even before Congress approved the Boulder Canyon Project, the Bureau of
Reclamation was considering what kind of dam should be used. Officials
eventually decided on a massive concrete arch-gravity dam, the design of
which was overseen by the Bureau's chief design engineer John L. Savage.
The monolithic dam would be thick at the bottom and thin near the top,
and would present a convex face towards the water above the dam. The
curving arch of the dam would transmit the water's force into the
abutments, in this case the rock walls of the canyon. The wedge-shaped
dam would be 660 ft (200 m) thick at the bottom, narrowing to 45 ft (14
m) at the top, leaving room for a highway connecting Nevada and Arizona.
[21]
On January 10, 1931, the Bureau made the bid documents available to
interested parties, at five dollars a copy. The government was to
provide the materials; but the contractor was to prepare the site and
build the dam. The dam was described in minute detail, covering 100
pages of text and 76 drawings. A $2 million bid bond was to accompany
each bid; the winner would have to post a $5 million performance bond.
The contractor had seven years to build the dam, or penalties would
ensue.[22]


-----------------------

True enough. But the government chose the wrong location and the dam was
built further upstream, and there were enough contracts for water and
electricity that the Fed's did not have to spend the money to build the dam.
Herbert Hoover required the contracts before the Federal Government would
sign off on the project. The location had been studied since about 1900, so
the general location was known. The financing was the problem, and Hoover
told his people to get contracts to cover the money. Seems as if the
Presidents of the USA for the last bunch of years could learn from the
fiscal responsibility of Hoover.

But you said it was funded by private entities and that's bull****.

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 777884126377209988.909032bmckeenospam-
, says...

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business,
you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government
builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody
should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam
sure!
It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

The Federal gov did not fund Hoover Dam. They knew it was needed, but
there were electric contracts and water contracts in place that would pay
for dam. Was required before the Fed's signed off.



Even before Congress approved the Boulder Canyon Project, the Bureau of
Reclamation was considering what kind of dam should be used. Officials
eventually decided on a massive concrete arch-gravity dam, the design of
which was overseen by the Bureau's chief design engineer John L. Savage.
The monolithic dam would be thick at the bottom and thin near the top,
and would present a convex face towards the water above the dam. The
curving arch of the dam would transmit the water's force into the
abutments, in this case the rock walls of the canyon. The wedge-shaped
dam would be 660 ft (200 m) thick at the bottom, narrowing to 45 ft (14
m) at the top, leaving room for a highway connecting Nevada and Arizona.
[21]
On January 10, 1931, the Bureau made the bid documents available to
interested parties, at five dollars a copy. The government was to
provide the materials; but the contractor was to prepare the site and
build the dam. The dam was described in minute detail, covering 100
pages of text and 76 drawings. A $2 million bid bond was to accompany
each bid; the winner would have to post a $5 million performance bond.
The contractor had seven years to build the dam, or penalties would
ensue.[22]


-----------------------

True enough. But the government chose the wrong location and the dam was
built further upstream, and there were enough contracts for water and
electricity that the Fed's did not have to spend the money to build the dam.
Herbert Hoover required the contracts before the Federal Government would
sign off on the project. The location had been studied since about 1900, so
the general location was known. The financing was the problem, and Hoover
told his people to get contracts to cover the money. Seems as if the
Presidents of the USA for the last bunch of years could learn from the
fiscal responsibility of Hoover.

But you said it was funded by private entities and that's bull****.

Where did I say private entities funded the dam? I stated the Federal
Government did not do the funding. Some of the groups were quasi
government, while others were private. Water and electric districts.

In article 1441891429377309526.497170bmckeenospam-
, says...

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 777884126377209988.909032bmckeenospam-
, says...

GuzzisRule wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:06:46 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 12/13/12 7:21 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:44:27 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



Yes, and here is his EXACT words:

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business,
you
didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

That is still an insult to the people who worked hard and created a
successful business when lesser people failed on that same road.

On the other hand we have a syndicate that built their own road so
they would have a place to start businesses. It is one of the most
successful business corridors in Ft Myers.

(Metro Parkway)


It is not insulting to point out that, typically, the government
builds
the infrastructure that makes business possible.

Depends. I bet Eisboch wasn't insulted. He was - maybe still is - a
genuine "job creator."
The GOP and the dopes here think because you hired people to further
your business and hopefully become wealthy - well, then everybody
should
kiss your ass, and give you personal God-like credit for building the
interstates, the electrical grid, and Hoover dam.
Being successful, wealthy and respected just isn't enough.
They need their asses constantly kissed by their "lessers."
Classic kiss up, kick down.
That's why the dopes here so eagerly kissed Romney's ass.
Thank God the ass-kissers were a minority at the polls.
Wouldn't want a low-life, flip-flopping, vulture money-grubber like
Romney as President of The United States of America, would we?
BTW, the dopes here probably don't know that 77% of "small businesses"
don't even have employees. That's right, a "small business" is most
likely a one-man shop. An eBay seller - or a ****ing lawyer.
The eBay sellers don't benefit from lower high income tax rates.
Most of them don't report income and probably draw food stamps to avoid
starving.
So it's basically rich lawyers the GOP is looking out for.
Maybe K-Street lobbyists and other scammers taking advantage of the tax
code too.
Got nothing to do with "job creators." That's just GOP bull****.
Only rubes buy it.





The companies (not the government) that built Hoover Dam deserve a *lot*
(although not God-like) of
credit for doing so. The government didn't build it, that's for dam
sure!
It was built by job
creators.

Now, quit kissing up to Krause.

The Federal gov did not fund Hoover Dam. They knew it was needed, but
there were electric contracts and water contracts in place that would pay
for dam. Was required before the Fed's signed off.



Even before Congress approved the Boulder Canyon Project, the Bureau of
Reclamation was considering what kind of dam should be used. Officials
eventually decided on a massive concrete arch-gravity dam, the design of
which was overseen by the Bureau's chief design engineer John L. Savage.
The monolithic dam would be thick at the bottom and thin near the top,
and would present a convex face towards the water above the dam. The
curving arch of the dam would transmit the water's force into the
abutments, in this case the rock walls of the canyon. The wedge-shaped
dam would be 660 ft (200 m) thick at the bottom, narrowing to 45 ft (14
m) at the top, leaving room for a highway connecting Nevada and Arizona.
[21]
On January 10, 1931, the Bureau made the bid documents available to
interested parties, at five dollars a copy. The government was to
provide the materials; but the contractor was to prepare the site and
build the dam. The dam was described in minute detail, covering 100
pages of text and 76 drawings. A $2 million bid bond was to accompany
each bid; the winner would have to post a $5 million performance bond.
The contractor had seven years to build the dam, or penalties would
ensue.[22]


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True enough. But the government chose the wrong location and the dam was
built further upstream, and there were enough contracts for water and
electricity that the Fed's did not have to spend the money to build the dam.
Herbert Hoover required the contracts before the Federal Government would
sign off on the project. The location had been studied since about 1900, so
the general location was known. The financing was the problem, and Hoover
told his people to get contracts to cover the money. Seems as if the
Presidents of the USA for the last bunch of years could learn from the
fiscal responsibility of Hoover.

But you said it was funded by private entities and that's bull****.

Where did I say private entities funded the dam? I stated the Federal
Government did not do the funding. Some of the groups were quasi
government, while others were private. Water and electric districts.

The government funded it. Others BUILT it.