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On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:36 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:03:07 -0500, GuzzisRule
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This article sums it up pretty well. Of course, I didn't
write it, but
hopefully you'll get the
drift.

http://tinyurl.com/a3a6gfy

Sorry you're disappointed, but it's not the first time
and probably
won't be the last.

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Judging from that article I'd have to say that the
author, and
probably you, share some confusion about the difference
between
values, religious beliefs and political beliefs.
Sometimes reasonable
people with high values have to agree to disagree. More
importantly,
it is inappropriate to try and impose your religious
beliefs on others
and then accuse them of lacking "values".

Other than, possibly, the first one, there is nothing
religious there. I
don't consider the first
one a religious position. 'Marriage' was an institution
that had some
meaning. Now liberals,
especially, have made it a sham. And, I agree that 'it is
'it is
inappropriate to try and impose
your religious beliefs on others', and that includes
atheists imposing
theirs. If you can't read
that and determine what 'values' are being discussed, then
I can
understand your comments.

Religious beliefs are fine. Just do not force them on
others, but
likewise, others should not infringe your religious
freedoms. And marriage
has been different things through the years. Lots of the
profits in the
bible had multiple wives. In the 1800's you could marry
multiple spouses
in Texas, Alabama and another regions also. And not even
have to be
Mormon. Texas about we're married if you announced it in
front of 20
witness's or signed in to a hotel as Mr. And Mrs. No
church or state
involved. It is supposed to be a free country. You want
to marry same
sex? Go for it. Just do not require the rest of unto pay
for your
lifestyle. Same goes for most drugs, do them, die if that
happens, but do
not expect society to pay for your medical bills.


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dang Ipad and the spelling corrections.

You've referred several times to differences in the number
of wives. Not a
lot of instances in the
bible of male prophets marrying other males, goats, or
whatever. Ditto with
Texas, Alabama, and
other regions. I have a gay niece living with her
girlfriend. They will
probably invite me to a
'wedding' soon. I won't attend because I think the
'ceremony' is a sham.


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It is supposed to be a free country. If you pay your taxes,
do not force
your views on someone else, and the partners are not
children and are in
agreement, then just let it be. Does not concern most of
us, except maybe
in your views, but their views are allowable also.

I agree. They were both here for a 'Thanksgiving' dinner the
week before Thanksgiving. No problem.
But, I won't attend their wedding - if and when it occurs.

You're just a bigoted asshole, Racist John.

If not believing in 'Gay Marriage' makes me a bigoted asshole,
then I reckon you're right, Kevin.



There are many reasons why you are a bigoted asshole.

If John is a bigoted asshole, he is a taxing paying bigoted asshole.


Don't want to tell anyone what to do but I got invited to a Gay
Marriage
back in the 90's. I was against it too, still am. I went to the
ceremony
though. I figure if two people think they love each other and want to
spend their lives together, who the f am I? And as far as the moral
dilema, I figure God can decide how to judge them later... I was good
friends with the guy and explained it to him just like that, he
knew I
didn't agree with his lifestyle, but realized that I too am a
sinner and
a Christian like him, and he didn't judge my sins...

Where is it written that marriage is between a man and a woman?

Dictionary.com

mar·riage [mar-ij] Show IPA
noun
1.a.the social institution under which a man and woman establish
their decision to live as husband
and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms:
separation.

And, of course, you can probably find secondary and tertiary
meanings that include gays, dogs,
goats, etc.



If you weren't such a small-minded, bigoted asshole, you'd realize there
are dozens and dozens of definitions for the coupling of marriage, and
that they are not necessarily secondary meanings.

What is your definition for and benefit of marriage? Is it to get a tax
advantage or is it someone to co-mingle your finances so that your
"spouse 2" can pay off your tax bills?

There are, for example, communal marriages, a system prevailing amongst
some primitive peoples, by which within a small community all the men
are regarded as married to all the women, and vice versa; sometimes
called group marriage.

I'll bet that you want a communal marriage so you can **** the wifes and
husbands of everyone else.

There's Scotch marriage: a marriage according to the Scots law, effected
by a mutual declaration before witnesses, without other formality;
chiefly applied to the runaway marriages (formerly frequent) of couples
who crossed from England into Scotland in order to escape the
restrictions imposed by English law on the marriage of minors without
the consent of their guardians.

Now you understand why people attend marriages, to be witnesses to the
act.





Well, like I said... in my case I made it clear to Sheldon (RIP Buddy)
that I didn't agree with it but it wasn't really my call anyway so I was
not gonna' judge. That being said, all I had to do is decide if I was
gonna' support my neighbor and friend or not when he called me and asked
a favor. Who knows, maybe I was the token "townie", s'ok with me, didn't
cost me much. He was a good guy, and as he showed me, just another
flawed christian like me so yeah, I went to the wedding. And for the
record, it was kinda' silly and I probably told him that later too


Gee whiz. I don't agree with Christianity and never have, but I've never
even considered turning down an invite to a wedding because I didn't
think much of the religious practices of the participants. I've been to
a lot of Christian funerals, too, and even a few christenings.

Weddings and christenings are good times to share with friends, no
matter their religious beliefs, and funerals are to say goodbye to
friends, no matter their religious beliefs.

It must be nice being a 'perfect' deadbeat.