On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
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On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
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ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
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says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years. The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics

On 12/9/12 1:37 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1278725896376618279.354367bmckeenospam-
, says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
,
says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can
just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people.
Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years.
The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


You were 19, suffered from curvature of the spine and were the product
of an incestuous relationship? I can believe that.

"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1278725896376618279.354367bmckeenospam-
, says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
,
says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years. The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the interface
to a disk drive farm.

On 12/10/2012 1:11 PM, Califbill wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1278725896376618279.354367bmckeenospam-
, says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
,
says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can
just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people.
Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years.
The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the
interface to a disk drive farm.


Great, not knocking your stuff, you got a lot further than I... But in
my field, I was tops and could do a lot more than harry ever thought of
doing... that's all I was saying.

On 12/10/12 1:41 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/10/2012 1:11 PM, Califbill wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1278725896376618279.354367bmckeenospam-
, says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
,
says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can
just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people.
Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years.
The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run
our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government
will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral
core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the
interface to a disk drive farm.


Great, not knocking your stuff, you got a lot further than I... But in
my field, I was tops and could do a lot more than harry ever thought of
doing... that's all I was saying.


If you were a top of the line auto mechanic, you could have earned a six
figure salary and you'd still be earning it. If you had half a brain,
you could have been the service manager at a big dealership and been
earning a lot more.

In article ,
says...

On 12/10/12 1:41 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/10/2012 1:11 PM, Califbill wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1278725896376618279.354367bmckeenospam-
, says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
,
says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can
just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people.
Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years.
The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run
our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government
will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral
core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the
interface to a disk drive farm.


Great, not knocking your stuff, you got a lot further than I... But in
my field, I was tops and could do a lot more than harry ever thought of
doing... that's all I was saying.


If you were a top of the line auto mechanic, you could have earned a six
figure salary and you'd still be earning it. If you had half a brain,
you could have been the service manager at a big dealership and been
earning a lot more.

Auto mechanics and plumbers to guys you can't live without.

In article , says...

On 12/10/2012 1:11 PM, Califbill wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1278725896376618279.354367bmckeenospam-
, says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
,
says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can
just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people.
Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years.
The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the
interface to a disk drive farm.


Great, not knocking your stuff, you got a lot further than I... But in
my field, I was tops and could do a lot more than harry ever thought of
doing... that's all I was saying.

So why are you unemployable now?

In article ,
says...

"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 12/9/2012 1:27 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 12/8/12 4:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/8/2012 2:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1278725896376618279.354367bmckeenospam-
, says...

ESAD wrote:
On 12/7/12 5:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article 1635163131376547539.158933bmckeenospam-
,
says...

thumper wrote:
On 12/6/2012 1:30 PM, Califbill wrote:

Atheists are using the court to enforce their beliefs. The
door to
door
missionary is at least honest about their views, and you can just
close the
door in their face.

They are using the courts to enforce the constitution.

Debatable. The constitution does not say there will not be
religion.
Basically it states there will not be "state religion" ala
Church of
England. God is even referenced in the Declaration of
Independence.
Religious people also have a right to use public property. It is
also
owned by them. This a government of, by, and for the people. Even
atheists can have a display on public property.

Ever hear of separation of church and state?


----------------------------
yup. Where does it state that in the Constitution?


In the first amendment and in interpretations by the supreme court,
neither of which you've probably read for comprehension.

The supremes have made conflicting interpretations over the years. The
first states there will not be State Religion. Even congress has
priests.

Do you really think it would be a good thing to have The Church run our
country without checks and balances? That's stupid.


------------------------

Where did I say that? The constitution states that the government will
be hands off religion. Not that there will be no religion.


You never did say that. But because he is an atheist with no moral core,
he will keep saying it. Doesn't matter to him what is right and wrong,
as long as he gets his govt check...


You two are really rocket scientists. Really. Ka-boom.


-----------------------

In a way I am. Designed and supplied equipment for Rockwell and the
Space Shuttle.


And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the interface
to a disk drive farm.

Why did I need a freaking MicroVAX II to run my 68000 and 68020
emulators?

And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the interface
to a disk drive farm.

Why did I need a freaking MicroVAX II to run my 68000 and 68020
emulators?

We built our newer stuff with 68k's and never used a microvax to run an
emulator. Most of the emulators ran on XT pc's. was the 1980's.

In article 1127240999376892093.109600bmckeenospam-
, says...

And I was "King Tut" when it came to Chevy PFinjection electrical
diagnostics


------------------------
huh? I designed disk drive controllers for Digital Equipment Corp.
computers. And Rockwell used a a VAX780 with my controller as the interface
to a disk drive farm.

Why did I need a freaking MicroVAX II to run my 68000 and 68020
emulators?

We built our newer stuff with 68k's and never used a microvax to run an
emulator. Most of the emulators ran on XT pc's. was the 1980's.

No, the maker of the emulator/in circuit analyzer systems was only setup
to use a MicroVAX II, DG had a hard time buying one from DEC directly,
we didn't want to cut the check so we bought one on the used market.