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iBoaterer[_2_] November 5th 12 07:42 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:27:28 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:33:59 -0500, T. Keating
wrote:

Eventually EROEI on fossil fuels will drop so low, It won't even be worth looking for
them. But, before that happens the extra CO2 we've put into the atmosphere will drive
Earth's Biosphere into the major 6th extinction level event.

That is exactly what needs to happen if you really want to cut CO2
levels.

CO2 tracks population growth as closely as any other metric.
If you want to get back to 1940 CO2 levels, you need to scrub about 5
billion people off the population.
I imagine the upcoming thermonuclear war will do it.


What thermonuclear war is that?


The one that starts in Israel and expands until nobody is still able
to shoot anymore.


When is it?

Wayne.B November 5th 12 09:49 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:28:14 -0500, wrote:

Of course a true global financial collapse (not the little correction
we had 4 years ago) could actually bring on a super power war.


===

....or a major resource crunch for something essential like food, fuel
or water.


BAR[_2_] November 6th 12 12:53 AM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:42:35 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 20:41:01 -0500, BAR wrote:

The leftists want us to stop using all fossil fuel which is not
practicable.

===

Not yet practicable. Someday it will be a necessity for one reason or
another, might as well prepare now to the extent possible.


Our problem is that we use fossil fuel all of our packaging and it is
critical to manufacturing.


It doesn't matter, sooner or later, there will be no fossil fuel available at any price.
You'll have to switch to some sort of bio-based packaging..


We only need to worry about another 16 years, when there is the
possibility of a large deposit of elements being made on Earth.

P.S.. The difference between living cells and thermally cracked ones(fossil fuels) is not
that much of difference. (Need extra energy inputs to grow, collect bio-matter, and then
crack them via pyrolysis. ).


My wife is a geologist and chemist.

Eventually EROEI on fossil fuels will drop so low, It won't even be worth looking for
them. But, before that happens the extra CO2 we've put into the atmosphere will drive
Earth's Biosphere into the major 6th extinction level event.


Or that big rock heading towrds Earth in 16 years will make it a moot
point.



JustWait[_2_] November 6th 12 01:03 AM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don'twork!
 
On 11/5/2012 7:53 PM, BAR wrote:


Or that big rock heading towrds Earth in 16 years will make it a moot
point.



Um, wanna' fill us all in???

Meyer[_2_] November 6th 12 12:45 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don'twork!
 
On 11/6/2012 8:30 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:59:16 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 11/5/2012 1:46 PM,
wrote:


What thermonuclear war is that?

The one that starts in Israel and expands until nobody is still able
to shoot anymore.


So, but "starting in Israel" you mean they will be the first ones turned
to ashes by some Arab dickhead? Right?



... or that one of those towel heads pop a dirty bomb/failed nuclear
device in Israel and they over react.
Once the bombs start flying, it may be hard to stop tho, particularly
if a US president thinks we need to do something.
If something actually happened here we would be blowing the hell out
of somebody and then it starts depending on who gets the fallout and
what they do about it.

Of course a true global financial collapse (not the little correction
we had 4 years ago) could actually bring on a super power war.





And when is this going to happen?

The way things are going, pretty soon.

iBoaterer[_2_] November 6th 12 01:30 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:59:16 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 11/5/2012 1:46 PM,
wrote:


What thermonuclear war is that?

The one that starts in Israel and expands until nobody is still able
to shoot anymore.


So, but "starting in Israel" you mean they will be the first ones turned
to ashes by some Arab dickhead? Right?



... or that one of those towel heads pop a dirty bomb/failed nuclear
device in Israel and they over react.
Once the bombs start flying, it may be hard to stop tho, particularly
if a US president thinks we need to do something.
If something actually happened here we would be blowing the hell out
of somebody and then it starts depending on who gets the fallout and
what they do about it.

Of course a true global financial collapse (not the little correction
we had 4 years ago) could actually bring on a super power war.





And when is this going to happen?

iBoaterer[_2_] November 6th 12 01:31 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:42:35 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 20:41:01 -0500, BAR wrote:

The leftists want us to stop using all fossil fuel which is not
practicable.

===

Not yet practicable. Someday it will be a necessity for one reason or
another, might as well prepare now to the extent possible.

Our problem is that we use fossil fuel all of our packaging and it is
critical to manufacturing.


It doesn't matter, sooner or later, there will be no fossil fuel available at any price.
You'll have to switch to some sort of bio-based packaging..


We only need to worry about another 16 years, when there is the
possibility of a large deposit of elements being made on Earth.


Cite?

P.S.. The difference between living cells and thermally cracked ones(fossil fuels) is not
that much of difference. (Need extra energy inputs to grow, collect bio-matter, and then
crack them via pyrolysis. ).


My wife is a geologist and chemist.


So.... what?

Eventually EROEI on fossil fuels will drop so low, It won't even be worth looking for
them. But, before that happens the extra CO2 we've put into the atmosphere will drive
Earth's Biosphere into the major 6th extinction level event.


Or that big rock heading towrds Earth in 16 years will make it a moot
point.


You're SURE of that?



iBoaterer[_2_] November 6th 12 05:54 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 08:30:15 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...



Of course a true global financial collapse (not the little correction
we had 4 years ago) could actually bring on a super power war.





And when is this going to happen?


Long before this global warming thing will be a problem.


Cite? Global warming is already a problem, by the way.

GuzzisRule November 6th 12 08:18 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:09:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:54:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 08:30:15 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


Of course a true global financial collapse (not the little correction
we had 4 years ago) could actually bring on a super power war.





And when is this going to happen?

Long before this global warming thing will be a problem.


Cite? Global warming is already a problem, by the way.


What problem? Cite?


People have certain desires with regards to weather. I'd rather not have three hour frost delays at
my local golf course, for example. Any weather which is contrary to that which folks desire is a
problem, for them anyway. And any such weather is caused by global warming.

Now, put that in your beer and drink it.

BAR[_2_] November 6th 12 11:00 PM

No, this can't be true, the hard core righties say they don't work!
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:54:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 08:30:15 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


Of course a true global financial collapse (not the little correction
we had 4 years ago) could actually bring on a super power war.





And when is this going to happen?

Long before this global warming thing will be a problem.


Cite? Global warming is already a problem, by the way.


What problem? Cite?


We have been suffering from a lack of global warming the last couple of
days in my area.




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