In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

as the
government has taken all available credit money from the economy

Right idea, wrong bad guy.

Facts say that the money is held by the richest people, who are
sitting on the money and keeping it out of circulation.

The government has foolishly printed more money in an attempt to put
more money in the hands of those that will allow it to trickle up.
That won't work.

Until a sizable portion of that 85% of cash held by the richest is
returned to the middle class, the economy CAN NOT get any better.

It is just a mathematical fact.

http://wealthfacts.org/?page_id=44

"Returned to the middle class." What does that mean comrade?

On 10/10/2012 9:35 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

as the
government has taken all available credit money from the economy

Right idea, wrong bad guy.

Facts say that the money is held by the richest people, who are
sitting on the money and keeping it out of circulation.

The government has foolishly printed more money in an attempt to put
more money in the hands of those that will allow it to trickle up.
That won't work.

Until a sizable portion of that 85% of cash held by the richest is
returned to the middle class, the economy CAN NOT get any better.

It is just a mathematical fact.

http://wealthfacts.org/?page_id=44

"Returned to the middle class." What does that mean comrade?


And until the corps trust the Govt to let them make a few bucks, that
money will stay just the hell where it is...

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

as the
government has taken all available credit money from the economy

Right idea, wrong bad guy.

Facts say that the money is held by the richest people, who are
sitting on the money and keeping it out of circulation.

The government has foolishly printed more money in an attempt to put
more money in the hands of those that will allow it to trickle up.
That won't work.

Until a sizable portion of that 85% of cash held by the richest is
returned to the middle class, the economy CAN NOT get any better.

It is just a mathematical fact.

http://wealthfacts.org/?page_id=44


----------------------------

I said the credit money. Want to start a business. Yup? Well see if you
can get a loan. Those trillion dollar deficits are financed with the
available credit money. Very little to go to the lower echelon. History is
sort of repeating in this country. 1912, 15% had 65% of the money. 65% of
the people lived in poverty. The Great Depression was caused by big
government and lack of controls. WW2 was both caused a lot by the
depression, but it was what got the USA out of the depression. WW2 also
made us the economic powerhouse for a lot of years, as most of the rest of
the industrial world was in devastation. But with the elites in power,
helping themselves to stay in power, and controlling government, just like
now, the allowed companies to merge and build use powerful conglomerates,
instead of spending their money on modernizing factories, they spent it
buying competitors. Steel left the US as we both ran lower on iron ore, and
had old inefficient Bessemer Process foundries. While those devastated
countries rebuilt with US help with modern, more efficient factories. And
while we controlled 85% of the manufacturing, the management kept overpaying
the help, as their was not competition. Now we are paying the price. 60
million functional illiterates' in this country. How are we going to
compete? With a dumb, lazy workforce and old factories, and a huge bloated
Federal and state government, with the inefficiencies of large
bureaucracies. We are screwed in this country. As we have an electorate
who is voting for whomever promises the most gimmies. As to cash. There is
a finite amount, and the richest probably do not have that much. They have
assets. Gold, land, factories, banks.

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says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
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On 10/5/2012 6:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:58:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://christianpf.com/0-credit-cards-are-not-free/


The use of the credit card is not free. The credit extended to me for
almost two months from a
19July purchase to a 19 September payment is free.

You need to get your head out of your ass. That sphincter muscle is
squeezing your brain down to
nothing. It's gotta hurt really bad.

I'm sorry for you.

Well, then you finally admitted it's not free, so why did you fight it
for so long?


Yep, not free. Mine pays me and no fees. But then I pay in full every
month. Be damned if I will spend money for the privilege of spending
money, that is for debtors.

What you and the other fools don't understand is the fact that the fees
payed by the merchant are handed down to you, the consumer, so no, it's
not free.

-----------------------------
The cash buyer is paying for those fees also. Both Credit and cash buyers
are paying for the governments overspending and printing inflationary money.
Both are paying for the fact that the merchant can not get a loan, as the
government has taken all available credit money from the economy. We are
paying for lots of stuff. Those who put the Starbucks on the CC and run a
monthly balance are paying those fees, plus 24% interest on that Starbucks.
Since I am paying all those same fees and payoff my cards fully each month,
my credit cards send me money. My Costco Amex last rebate sent me over a
$1000. That is more than the fees for credit I had to pay a merchant in the
same period. As to those other fees, we are all going to pay them as well
as my great Grandkids will be paying for the overspending this country is
doing now, to prevent any pain to the populace.

I didn't say the cash buyer wasn't paying those fees, on the contrary, I
said the fees were built into the buyer's cost of the product.

In article , says...

On 10/10/2012 8:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 10/5/2012 6:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:58:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://christianpf.com/0-credit-cards-are-not-free/


The use of the credit card is not free. The credit extended to me
for almost two months from a
19July purchase to a 19 September payment is free.

You need to get your head out of your ass. That sphincter muscle is
squeezing your brain down to
nothing. It's gotta hurt really bad.

I'm sorry for you.

Well, then you finally admitted it's not free, so why did you fight it
for so long?


Yep, not free. Mine pays me and no fees. But then I pay in full every
month. Be damned if I will spend money for the privilege of spending
money, that is for debtors.

What you and the other fools don't understand is the fact that the fees
payed by the merchant are handed down to you, the consumer, so no, it's
not free.

-----------------------------
The cash buyer is paying for those fees also. Both Credit and cash
buyers are paying for the governments overspending and printing
inflationary money. Both are paying for the fact that the merchant can
not get a loan, as the government has taken all available credit money
from the economy. We are paying for lots of stuff. Those who put the
Starbucks on the CC and run a monthly balance are paying those fees,
plus 24% interest on that Starbucks. Since I am paying all those same
fees and payoff my cards fully each month, my credit cards send me
money. My Costco Amex last rebate sent me over a $1000. That is more
than the fees for credit I had to pay a merchant in the same period. As
to those other fees, we are all going to pay them as well as my great
Grandkids will be paying for the overspending this country is doing now,
to prevent any pain to the populace.



Really, he knows you know that. He knows we all know that... We said "we
don't pay credit card fees" obviously referring to the monthly fees and
credit charges.... He changed the bar and has been getting you to play
for the last few weeks... geeze guys, really????

OH, no, John said his credit was free. Period. It's not. I changed
NOTHING about my original statement, you moron. Go shovel enough **** to
get your family a meal.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

as the
government has taken all available credit money from the economy

Right idea, wrong bad guy.

Facts say that the money is held by the richest people, who are
sitting on the money and keeping it out of circulation.

The government has foolishly printed more money in an attempt to put
more money in the hands of those that will allow it to trickle up.
That won't work.

Until a sizable portion of that 85% of cash held by the richest is
returned to the middle class, the economy CAN NOT get any better.

It is just a mathematical fact.

http://wealthfacts.org/?page_id=44

Uh oh, there you go, confusing them with FACTS. They only listen to what
FOX tells them!

In article , says...

On 10/10/2012 9:35 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

as the
government has taken all available credit money from the economy

Right idea, wrong bad guy.

Facts say that the money is held by the richest people, who are
sitting on the money and keeping it out of circulation.

The government has foolishly printed more money in an attempt to put
more money in the hands of those that will allow it to trickle up.
That won't work.

Until a sizable portion of that 85% of cash held by the richest is
returned to the middle class, the economy CAN NOT get any better.

It is just a mathematical fact.

http://wealthfacts.org/?page_id=44

"Returned to the middle class." What does that mean comrade?


And until the corps trust the Govt to let them make a few bucks, that
money will stay just the hell where it is...

Insane Scotty strikes again!!!

On 10/11/2012 8:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/10/2012 9:35 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:44:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

as the
government has taken all available credit money from the economy

Right idea, wrong bad guy.

Facts say that the money is held by the richest people, who are
sitting on the money and keeping it out of circulation.

The government has foolishly printed more money in an attempt to put
more money in the hands of those that will allow it to trickle up.
That won't work.

Until a sizable portion of that 85% of cash held by the richest is
returned to the middle class, the economy CAN NOT get any better.

It is just a mathematical fact.

http://wealthfacts.org/?page_id=44

"Returned to the middle class." What does that mean comrade?


And until the corps trust the Govt to let them make a few bucks, that
money will stay just the hell where it is...

Insane Scotty strikes again!!!

It's only going to get worse unless we change something. Scotty's right.

On 10/11/2012 8:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
I didn't say the cash buyer wasn't paying those fees, on the contrary, I
said the fees were built into the buyer's cost of the product.

Well golly gee. There's a spark of life in that pea brain of yours.

ps: I Hope you're out looking for a job. It's just a matter of time till
your boss catches you stealing from him and gives you the boot.

On 10/11/2012 8:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 10/10/2012 8:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 10/5/2012 6:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 12:58:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://christianpf.com/0-credit-cards-are-not-free/


The use of the credit card is not free. The credit extended to me
for almost two months from a
19July purchase to a 19 September payment is free.

You need to get your head out of your ass. That sphincter muscle is
squeezing your brain down to
nothing. It's gotta hurt really bad.

I'm sorry for you.

Well, then you finally admitted it's not free, so why did you fight it
for so long?


Yep, not free. Mine pays me and no fees. But then I pay in full every
month. Be damned if I will spend money for the privilege of spending
money, that is for debtors.

What you and the other fools don't understand is the fact that the fees
payed by the merchant are handed down to you, the consumer, so no, it's
not free.

-----------------------------
The cash buyer is paying for those fees also. Both Credit and cash
buyers are paying for the governments overspending and printing
inflationary money. Both are paying for the fact that the merchant can
not get a loan, as the government has taken all available credit money
from the economy. We are paying for lots of stuff. Those who put the
Starbucks on the CC and run a monthly balance are paying those fees,
plus 24% interest on that Starbucks. Since I am paying all those same
fees and payoff my cards fully each month, my credit cards send me
money. My Costco Amex last rebate sent me over a $1000. That is more
than the fees for credit I had to pay a merchant in the same period. As
to those other fees, we are all going to pay them as well as my great
Grandkids will be paying for the overspending this country is doing now,
to prevent any pain to the populace.



Really, he knows you know that. He knows we all know that... We said "we
don't pay credit card fees" obviously referring to the monthly fees and
credit charges.... He changed the bar and has been getting you to play
for the last few weeks... geeze guys, really????

OH, no, John said his credit was free. Period. It's not. I changed
NOTHING about my original statement, you moron. Go shovel enough **** to
get your family a meal.

Loogy is having a Slammeresque moment.