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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
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says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote: What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. Being able to store energy at a reasonable cost and weight is key to making electric vehicles practical. Although the Volt is not yet the ideal electric car, it is a step forward. Internal combustion engines started off slowly also. Take a look at the automotive engines of 100 years ago vs what we have today. The Tesla is quite the technological car though! It has a battery and electric motors. So? Your car still has an internal combustion engine. Is it the same as a Model A? Yes. The internal combustion engine has not changed much in 100 years either. Bull****! That's a very ignorant statement! Specifically what has changed? Metals used, fuel delivery systems, advances in combustion technology, advances in exhaust technology, much better efficiency, electronics for combustion, fuel efficiency, engine control, emissions, and on and on... |
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#63
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
In article m,
says... On 9/14/2012 7:58 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote: What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. Being able to store energy at a reasonable cost and weight is key to making electric vehicles practical. Although the Volt is not yet the ideal electric car, it is a step forward. Internal combustion engines started off slowly also. Take a look at the automotive engines of 100 years ago vs what we have today. The Tesla is quite the technological car though! It has a battery and electric motors. So? Your car still has an internal combustion engine. Is it the same as a Model A? compression, ignition, expansion, and exhaust. Yup, pretty much the same. That's all you know about a modern internal combustion engine? Figures. |
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#64
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
In article m,
says... On 9/14/2012 8:24 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote: What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. Being able to store energy at a reasonable cost and weight is key to making electric vehicles practical. Although the Volt is not yet the ideal electric car, it is a step forward. Internal combustion engines started off slowly also. Take a look at the automotive engines of 100 years ago vs what we have today. The Tesla is quite the technological car though! It has a battery and electric motors. So? Your car still has an internal combustion engine. Is it the same as a Model A? Yes. The internal combustion engine has not changed much in 100 years either. Bull****! That's a very ignorant statement! Specifically what has changed? You are asking someone who uses a roller to paint details. Good luck with that. You'd have better luck getting Harry to pay his taxes. Been answered. |
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#65
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
In article m,
says... On 9/14/2012 8:24 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote: What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. Being able to store energy at a reasonable cost and weight is key to making electric vehicles practical. Although the Volt is not yet the ideal electric car, it is a step forward. Internal combustion engines started off slowly also. Take a look at the automotive engines of 100 years ago vs what we have today. The Tesla is quite the technological car though! It has a battery and electric motors. So? Your car still has an internal combustion engine. Is it the same as a Model A? Yes. The internal combustion engine has not changed much in 100 years either. Bull****! That's a very ignorant statement! Specifically what has changed? You are asking someone who uses a roller to paint details. Good luck with that. You'd have better luck getting Harry to pay his taxes. Been answered. |
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#66
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
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On 9/14/2012 8:23 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On 9/14/2012 8:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ I've heard it all before. I know all about charging and discharging cycles and issues. The materials may have improved but, the basic battery is still the same. You charge it, you discharge it, you charge it and the cycle keeps repeating until the battery wears out. That's like saying that automobiles are the same as they were when Henry first built one. Hey, the still have internal combustion engines, so using your analogy, they must still be the same! What has changed in an internal combustion automobile in the last 100 years? Fuel delivery... Turbo's, fuel injection... Plus just about everything in there has been advanced through what? Oh, that terrible "new technology"...... The basic properties of an internal combustion engine powered automobile has not changed in 100 years. Fuel, fire, air... easy... That's all you know about a modern internal combustion engine? |
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#67
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
In article m,
says... On 9/14/2012 8:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On 9/14/2012 8:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ I've heard it all before. I know all about charging and discharging cycles and issues. The materials may have improved but, the basic battery is still the same. You charge it, you discharge it, you charge it and the cycle keeps repeating until the battery wears out. That's like saying that automobiles are the same as they were when Henry first built one. Hey, the still have internal combustion engines, so using your analogy, they must still be the same! What has changed in an internal combustion automobile in the last 100 years? Fuel delivery... Turbo's, fuel injection... Plus just about everything in there has been advanced through what? Oh, that terrible "new technology"...... The basic properties of an internal combustion engine powered automobile has not changed in 100 years. Basic properties don't have much to do with anything. Modern steel composites still have the basic properties of iron ore, but they sure aren't iron ore. So what new technology projects are you helping design? Or are you just a member of the pep squad? I use technology every day in my job. |
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#68
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
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On 9/14/2012 9:16 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/14/2012 8:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On 9/14/2012 8:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ I've heard it all before. I know all about charging and discharging cycles and issues. The materials may have improved but, the basic battery is still the same. You charge it, you discharge it, you charge it and the cycle keeps repeating until the battery wears out. That's like saying that automobiles are the same as they were when Henry first built one. Hey, the still have internal combustion engines, so using your analogy, they must still be the same! What has changed in an internal combustion automobile in the last 100 years? Fuel delivery... Turbo's, fuel injection... Plus just about everything in there has been advanced through what? Oh, that terrible "new technology"...... The basic properties of an internal combustion engine powered automobile has not changed in 100 years. Basic properties don't have much to do with anything. Modern steel composites still have the basic properties of iron ore, but they sure aren't iron ore. So what new technology projects are you helping design? Or are you just a member of the pep squad? Trying to figure out what the hell he is talking about... We're talking technology, he is talking material composition. I really wonder if the guy is bright enough... um, ok... Do you not think that material composition IS technology???? Really? If you don't think it is, you are dumber than a post. |
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#69
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
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On 9/14/2012 9:44 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/14/2012 9:31 AM, JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 9:16 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/14/2012 8:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On 9/14/2012 8:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ I've heard it all before. I know all about charging and discharging cycles and issues. The materials may have improved but, the basic battery is still the same. You charge it, you discharge it, you charge it and the cycle keeps repeating until the battery wears out. That's like saying that automobiles are the same as they were when Henry first built one. Hey, the still have internal combustion engines, so using your analogy, they must still be the same! What has changed in an internal combustion automobile in the last 100 years? Fuel delivery... Turbo's, fuel injection... Plus just about everything in there has been advanced through what? Oh, that terrible "new technology"...... The basic properties of an internal combustion engine powere automobile has not changed in 100 years. Basic properties don't have much to do with anything. Modern steel composites still have the basic properties of iron ore, but they sure aren't iron ore. So what new technology projects are you helping design? Or are you just a member of the pep squad? Trying to figure out what the hell he is talking about... We're talking technology, he is talking material composition. I really wonder if the guy is bright enough... um, ok... I have a sneaky suspicion that they DIDN'T break the mold when they made Plume. Yup... Time to move along. But, but, I thought I was loogy, or Kevin, or or or.... Oh, wait, I get it, bat**** crazy and delusional!! |
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#70
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
In article om,
says... On 9/14/2012 8:06 AM, JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 8:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ I've heard it all before. I know all about charging and discharging cycles and issues. The materials may have improved but, the basic battery is still the same. You charge it, you discharge it, you charge it and the cycle keeps repeating until the battery wears out. That's like saying that automobiles are the same as they were when Henry first built one. Hey, the still have internal combustion engines, so using your analogy, they must still be the same! What has changed in an internal combustion automobile in the last 100 years? Fuel delivery... Turbo's, fuel injection... Same old engine with a few refinements. Bull****. |
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