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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
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says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ |
200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote:
What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. Being able to store energy at a reasonable cost and weight is key to making electric vehicles practical. Although the Volt is not yet the ideal electric car, it is a step forward. Internal combustion engines started off slowly also. Take a look at the automotive engines of 100 years ago vs what we have today. |
200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 11:18:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote: What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. Being able to store energy at a reasonable cost and weight is key to making electric vehicles practical. Although the Volt is not yet the ideal electric car, it is a step forward. Internal combustion engines started off slowly also. Take a look at the automotive engines of 100 years ago vs what we have today. The Tesla is quite the technological car though! === The Tesla is a fine example of what you can do if cost is no object. Since they are in a high end specialty market there is not a lot of pressure to lower the cost but it's nice to see an example of what is doable. |
200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
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200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:43:29 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote: What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. I fly R/C. The advances in batteries (Li-Po and Li-Ion), and in the electric motors and their controllers, have enabled electric airplanes to be competetive performance-wise with their glow fuel powered counterparts. The downside is the need to re-charge after every flight, and the cost. You can buy a glow motor and a lot of fuel for the cost of a motor, controller, batteries, and special charger. |
200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ I've heard it all before. I know all about charging and discharging cycles and issues. The materials may have improved but, the basic battery is still the same. You charge it, you discharge it, you charge it and the cycle keeps repeating until the battery wears out. |
200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
In article ,
says... In article , says... On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0400, BAR wrote: What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? You put energy in and you take energy out. ==== That's what batteries do of course - store energy for use at a later time. How do you propose to advance that? Energy stored per pound has advanced a lot. If you don't believe that, take a look at the latest generation of cordless tools or laptop computers. Being able to store energy at a reasonable cost and weight is key to making electric vehicles practical. Although the Volt is not yet the ideal electric car, it is a step forward. Internal combustion engines started off slowly also. Take a look at the automotive engines of 100 years ago vs what we have today. The Tesla is quite the technological car though! It has a battery and electric motors. |
200 miles on one $1.00 charge.....
On 9/13/2012 7:51 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:19:34 -0400, BAR wrote: Electric cars have not advanced in 100 years. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml === That's not entirely true. Battery technology has advanced a lot, and the Volt is a much more comfortable, faster, safer and luxurious car than anything that existed 100 years ago. I'd buy one now if the price was more in line. Remind me to post a picture of my neighbors electric boat one of these days. It looks better and better every time the price of fuel goes up. But that's not what FOX told him.... What advances in batteries have we made in the last 100 years? Reduced weight, higher power. Think Li. Carbon based nanotube ultracapacitors, and on and on. http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ecent-battery- advances/ http://www.technologyreview.com/news...ies-charge-up/ I've heard it all before. I know all about charging and discharging cycles and issues. The materials may have improved but, the basic battery is still the same. You charge it, you discharge it, you charge it and the cycle keeps repeating until the battery wears out. Or catches on fire. |
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