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JustWait[_2_] August 11th 12 03:42 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/10/2012 10:01 PM, Earl wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:45:10 -0700, jps wrote:

Aug 9 (Reuters) - The Tucson gunman who killed six people and severely
wounded Gabrielle Giffords has labeled himself a failure because the
former Arizona Congresswoman survived his rampage, according to a
prison psychologist's report released on Thursday.

The report's release comes two days after Jared Loughner, 23, in a
deal that will spare him the death penalty, pleaded guilty to six
murders and other charges stemming from his January 2011 shooting
spree at a Tucson supermarket.

Psychologist Christina Pietz, who evaluated Loughner at a federal
prison hospital in Missouri, said in the report that Loughner had
repeatedly made comments suggesting he thought Giffords died when he
shot her in the head.

At one time, he suggested he understood that Giffords was alive,
according to Pietz, who wrote that she pressed him on that point, and
he admitted to feeling disappointed in her survival because it meant
he "failed."

"I'm not an assassin," Pietz's report quoted Loughner, a community
college dropout, as saying.

Later on in the interview, he told Pietz: "Jared Loughner failed
again. He's a failure. So all of this would be for nothing."



Let's make tools designed to kill people widely available, that way we
can be certain that they'll eventually fall into the hands of the
criminally insane. Ammo too!

What's your solution, jps?

Should this country ban all guns?

Illicit drugs are banned. How's that working? The same scumbags are
using both!


Has JPS given his solution yet? Has he explained why so many of these
shootings are left wingers in blue states??? Oh, and why when some arab
**** goes around shooting soldiers screaming about his God, it's not
terrorism, but some white fool goes nuts and it's terrorism right out of
the blocks??? I am so sick of the racism my government is pushing on us.
I NEVER OWNED A SLAVE!!!!! Period...

Earl[_37_] August 11th 12 03:50 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.


Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.

Earl[_37_] August 11th 12 03:51 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:17:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 5:05 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?
Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.
So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous drooling in a boating newsgroup solve *anything* ?


Does Herring playing golf "solve anything?" Probably just frustrates
the **** out of him, confirms his lack of athleticism and furthers his
low self esteem.

That's the perfect opportunity to blame his failures on the black man.

You lefties are over the top!



X ` Man August 11th 12 03:53 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/10/12 10:39 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 8/10/2012 10:12 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 12:09 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:08:46 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 8/10/2012 8:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:45:10 -0700, jps wrote:

Let's make tools designed to kill people widely available, that
way we
can be certain that they'll eventually fall into the hands of the
criminally insane. Ammo too!

What's your solution, jps?

Should this country ban all guns?

Laws and bans only affect law abiding citizens.

No fair, you're not jps!

I really would like to see his solution.



Simple. Since all the domestic terrorists who engage in mass gun
murders seem to be righties, round all the gun-owning righties up,
put them and their firearms into a huge fenced area in Arizona or
Texas, drop in huge amounts of ammo, whiskey, crank, bibles and
condoms (but no food or water) and come back in a month to see which
one is still alive. Shoot him. If any of those righties held decent
jobs, give those jobs to the jobless and to hard-working Mexicans.

Un-****ing-believable! You are insane, Harry.


The more we ignore him, the more insane he will get...




Do the voices in your head sing in harmony?

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Tom Nofinger August 11th 12 04:01 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Friday, August 10, 2012 9:42:41 PM UTC-5, JustWait wrote:
On 8/10/2012 10:01 PM, Earl wrote:

John H. wrote:


On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:45:10 -0700, jps wrote:




Aug 9 (Reuters) - The Tucson gunman who killed six people and severely


wounded Gabrielle Giffords has labeled himself a failure because the


former Arizona Congresswoman survived his rampage, according to a


prison psychologist's report released on Thursday.




The report's release comes two days after Jared Loughner, 23, in a


deal that will spare him the death penalty, pleaded guilty to six


murders and other charges stemming from his January 2011 shooting


spree at a Tucson supermarket.




Psychologist Christina Pietz, who evaluated Loughner at a federal


prison hospital in Missouri, said in the report that Loughner had


repeatedly made comments suggesting he thought Giffords died when he


shot her in the head.




At one time, he suggested he understood that Giffords was alive,


according to Pietz, who wrote that she pressed him on that point, and


he admitted to feeling disappointed in her survival because it meant


he "failed."




"I'm not an assassin," Pietz's report quoted Loughner, a community


college dropout, as saying.




Later on in the interview, he told Pietz: "Jared Loughner failed


again. He's a failure. So all of this would be for nothing."








Let's make tools designed to kill people widely available, that way we


can be certain that they'll eventually fall into the hands of the


criminally insane. Ammo too!


What's your solution, jps?




Should this country ban all guns?


Illicit drugs are banned. How's that working? The same scumbags are


using both!




Has JPS given his solution yet?



Never.

jps August 11th 12 08:19 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:51:50 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:17:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 5:05 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?
Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.
So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous drooling in a boating newsgroup solve *anything* ?


Does Herring playing golf "solve anything?" Probably just frustrates
the **** out of him, confirms his lack of athleticism and furthers his
low self esteem.

That's the perfect opportunity to blame his failures on the black man.


You lefties are over the top!


Earl, don't get down on yourself for this, but it requires a sense of
humor to keep up.

jps August 11th 12 08:21 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:50:52 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.


Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.


Target shooting came to pass as a means to practice, in order to be a
better shot. That it became sport doesn't alter the fact that the
vast majority of guns are designed to kill.

John H[_2_] August 11th 12 11:11 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:30:03 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:17:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 5:05 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?


Does your continuous drooling in a boating newsgroup solve *anything* ?



Does Herring playing golf "solve anything?" Probably just frustrates
the **** out of him, confirms his lack of athleticism and furthers his
low self esteem.

That's the perfect opportunity to blame his failures on the black man.


I don't bitch and whine about my golf game as you do about guns.

Again, what would your solution be?

You and Krause are quick to make a personal attack, but can't answer a simple question.

John H[_2_] August 11th 12 11:15 AM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:21:08 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:50:52 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?
Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.


Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.


Target shooting came to pass as a means to practice, in order to be a
better shot. That it became sport doesn't alter the fact that the
vast majority of guns are designed to kill.


So what's your solution, jps?

Does whining about it in a boating group help resolve the problem?

Tom Nofinger August 11th 12 12:12 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Friday, August 10, 2012 11:19:19 AM UTC-5, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 12:09 PM, John H. wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:08:46 -0400, Meyer wrote:




On 8/10/2012 8:38 AM, John H. wrote:


On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:45:10 -0700, jps wrote:




Let's make tools designed to kill people widely available, that way we


can be certain that they'll eventually fall into the hands of the


criminally insane. Ammo too!




What's your solution, jps?




Should this country ban all guns?




Laws and bans only affect law abiding citizens.




No fair, you're not jps!




I really would like to see his solution.








Simple. Since all the domestic terrorists who engage in mass gun murders

seem to be righties, round all the gun-owning righties up,

put them and their firearms into a huge fenced area in Arizona or Texas,

drop in huge amounts of ammo, whiskey, crank, bibles and condoms (but no

food or water) and come back in a month to see which one is still alive.

Shoot him. If any of those righties held decent jobs, give those jobs to

the jobless and to hard-working Mexicans.



--

I'm a liberal



Brilliant solution. Krauser. Seig Heil!

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 12:51 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 6:11 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:30:03 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:17:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 5:05 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?


Does your continuous drooling in a boating newsgroup solve *anything* ?



Does Herring playing golf "solve anything?" Probably just frustrates
the **** out of him, confirms his lack of athleticism and furthers his
low self esteem.

That's the perfect opportunity to blame his failures on the black man.


I don't bitch and whine about my golf game as you do about guns.

Again, what would your solution be?

You and Krause are quick to make a personal attack, but can't answer a simple question.

Neither can think independently and can only respond as directed.

X ` Man August 11th 12 12:54 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 1:50 AM, wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

BAR[_2_] August 11th 12 01:09 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:07:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Half the time, those doing the evaluations are nuttier than the patients.


Or got their degree from some third rate diploma mill.......


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


It wasn't the university's problem anymore when the shooter dropped out.



BAR[_2_] August 11th 12 01:32 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:50:52 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?
Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.


Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.


Target shooting came to pass as a means to practice, in order to be a
better shot. That it became sport doesn't alter the fact that the
vast majority of guns are designed to kill.


Target practice is a good thing, you learn to hit what you intended to
hit rather than spraying bullets all over the place.

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 01:44 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 1:50 AM, wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

That's because the practitioners are mostly quacks who know little of
the workings of a human mind.

BAR[_2_] August 11th 12 01:58 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article om,
says...

On 8/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

That's because the practitioners are mostly quacks who know little of
the workings of a human mind.


The DSM is just a method for ensuring that the conditions in vogue are
considered to be diseases and therefore, fall under in-plan.

"By design, the DSM is primarily concerned with the signs and symptoms
of mental disorders, rather than the underlying causes. It claims to
collect them together based on statistical or clinical patterns. As
such, it has been compared to a naturalist?s field guide to birds, with
similar advantages and disadvantages."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnos...nual_of_Mental
_Disorders#Superficial_symptoms

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:21 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article om,
says...

On 8/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

That's because the practitioners are mostly quacks who know little of
the workings of a human mind.


Or they got their degree from a third rate diploma mill in DC!

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:22 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?


Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.


So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?


Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:23 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 8:58 AM, BAR wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 8/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

That's because the practitioners are mostly quacks who know little of
the workings of a human mind.


The DSM is just a method for ensuring that the conditions in vogue are
considered to be diseases and therefore, fall under in-plan.

"By design, the DSM is primarily concerned with the signs and symptoms
of mental disorders, rather than the underlying causes. It claims to
collect them together based on statistical or clinical patterns. As
such, it has been compared to a naturalist?s field guide to birds, with
similar advantages and disadvantages."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnos...nual_of_Mental
_Disorders#Superficial_symptoms


I see. They finally wrote a book about Krause.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:24 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:21:08 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:50:52 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?
Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.


Target shooting came to pass as a means to practice, in order to be a
better shot. That it became sport doesn't alter the fact that the
vast majority of guns are designed to kill.


So what's your solution, jps?

Does whining about it in a boating group help resolve the problem?


Does your constantly asking the same question in a boating newsgroup
help resolve the problem?

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:25 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article , says...

On 8/10/2012 10:12 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 8/10/12 12:09 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:08:46 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 8/10/2012 8:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:45:10 -0700, jps wrote:

Let's make tools designed to kill people widely available, that
way we
can be certain that they'll eventually fall into the hands of the
criminally insane. Ammo too!

What's your solution, jps?

Should this country ban all guns?

Laws and bans only affect law abiding citizens.

No fair, you're not jps!

I really would like to see his solution.



Simple. Since all the domestic terrorists who engage in mass gun
murders seem to be righties, round all the gun-owning righties up,
put them and their firearms into a huge fenced area in Arizona or
Texas, drop in huge amounts of ammo, whiskey, crank, bibles and
condoms (but no food or water) and come back in a month to see which
one is still alive. Shoot him. If any of those righties held decent
jobs, give those jobs to the jobless and to hard-working Mexicans.

Un-****ing-believable! You are insane, Harry.


The more we ignore him, the more insane he will get...


Who is "we"?

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:26 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article , says...

On 8/10/2012 10:01 PM, Earl wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:45:10 -0700, jps wrote:

Aug 9 (Reuters) - The Tucson gunman who killed six people and severely
wounded Gabrielle Giffords has labeled himself a failure because the
former Arizona Congresswoman survived his rampage, according to a
prison psychologist's report released on Thursday.

The report's release comes two days after Jared Loughner, 23, in a
deal that will spare him the death penalty, pleaded guilty to six
murders and other charges stemming from his January 2011 shooting
spree at a Tucson supermarket.

Psychologist Christina Pietz, who evaluated Loughner at a federal
prison hospital in Missouri, said in the report that Loughner had
repeatedly made comments suggesting he thought Giffords died when he
shot her in the head.

At one time, he suggested he understood that Giffords was alive,
according to Pietz, who wrote that she pressed him on that point, and
he admitted to feeling disappointed in her survival because it meant
he "failed."

"I'm not an assassin," Pietz's report quoted Loughner, a community
college dropout, as saying.

Later on in the interview, he told Pietz: "Jared Loughner failed
again. He's a failure. So all of this would be for nothing."



Let's make tools designed to kill people widely available, that way we
can be certain that they'll eventually fall into the hands of the
criminally insane. Ammo too!
What's your solution, jps?

Should this country ban all guns?

Illicit drugs are banned. How's that working? The same scumbags are
using both!


Has JPS given his solution yet? Has he explained why so many of these
shootings are left wingers in blue states??? Oh, and why when some arab
**** goes around shooting soldiers screaming about his God, it's not
terrorism, but some white fool goes nuts and it's terrorism right out of
the blocks??? I am so sick of the racism my government is pushing on us.
I NEVER OWNED A SLAVE!!!!! Period...


Just what racism is your government pushing on you? Please be specific.

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:28 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 8/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

That's because the practitioners are mostly quacks who know little of
the workings of a human mind.


Or they got their degree from a third rate diploma mill in DC!

Are you talking about the protestant lady who is supposedly married to
an agnostic and got her doctorate from a Catholic college.

John H[_2_] August 11th 12 02:30 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.


So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?


Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?


Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:30 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 9:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.


So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?


Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Which problem. There's a lot of problems that need solving. Be specific.

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:31 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 9:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:21:08 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:50:52 -0400, Earl
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:


Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.
Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.
Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.
Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?
Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

Not true. I have many guns and I am a target shooter.

Target shooting came to pass as a means to practice, in order to be a
better shot. That it became sport doesn't alter the fact that the
vast majority of guns are designed to kill.


So what's your solution, jps?

Does whining about it in a boating group help resolve the problem?


Does your constantly asking the same question in a boating newsgroup
help resolve the problem?

Pot kettle black

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:57 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?


Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?


Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:58 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article m,
says...

On 8/11/2012 9:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?


Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Which problem. There's a lot of problems that need solving. Be specific.


I'm just as specific as that asshole Herring.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 02:59 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article m,
says...

On 8/11/2012 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 8/11/2012 7:54 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

That's because the practitioners are mostly quacks who know little of
the workings of a human mind.


Or they got their degree from a third rate diploma mill in DC!

Are you talking about the protestant lady who is supposedly married to
an agnostic and got her doctorate from a Catholic college.


If the shoe fits the swollen foot.....!

X ` Man August 11th 12 03:02 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?


Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 03:12 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?


Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....

There's your answer John.

Meyer[_2_] August 11th 12 03:35 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/2012 10:02 AM, X ` Man wrote:


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


ROTHFLMAO Harry, you are priceless. Is he your twin brother?

John H[_2_] August 11th 12 04:13 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:35:00 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 8/11/2012 10:02 AM, X ` Man wrote:


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


ROTHFLMAO Harry, you are priceless. Is he your twin brother?


Unreal.

John H[_2_] August 11th 12 04:14 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:57:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?


Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....


Well, Kevin, I suppose that's as literate as I could expect from a liberal.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 04:25 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/11/12 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


The only people I insult are ****heads like you and Herring.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 04:26 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article om,
says...

On 8/11/2012 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....

There's your answer John.


John doesn't realize he's a very bigoted old fart?

iBoaterer[_2_] August 11th 12 04:27 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:57:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?


****ing bigoted *******....


Well, Kevin, I suppose that's as literate as I could expect from a liberal.


And you are still very bigoted. And an asshole. Hey, are you really so
stupid that you think I'm Kevin?

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 04:33 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 11:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 8/11/12 9:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 09:22:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:37:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:24:58 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:21:00 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:28:26 -0700, jps wrote:



Doesn't require a lot of ambition to buy a gun, some ammo in order to
affect retribution on a smaller scale, such as the white supremecist
did in Wisconsin.

Any jackass with a mastercard and a sick mind can do it.

And for whomever says a car can do just as much harm, I doubt it'd fit
real easily inside a Mosque where old men are praying.

Maybe we should be spending a little more time figuring out why people
do these things instead of simply trying to put everything that could
be used as a weapon on a high shelf.

This is similar to the way we are handling airline security. Instead
of targeting terrorists, we target the last weapon they came up with.
That does absolutely nothing to stop the next weapon.

Guns are designed to kill. Box cutters are designed to open boxes.

Ammonium Nitrate was designed to be fertilizer. What's your point?

Something that's sole purpose in design is killing vs. anything else.

So what's your solution, jps? Does continuous bitching in a boating newsgroup help solve the
problem?

Does your continuous self righteousness in a boating newsgroup help
solve the problem?

Kevin, there is nothing wrong with being righteous. I'm not the one whining and complaining about
guns.

Can a liberal answer a simple question, or must they always resort to personal attacks?

****ing bigoted *******....


iLoogy, have you ever in your entire semi-adult life gotten through a
day without attempting to insult *everyone* you encounter? It seems to
be your reason for existence.


The only people I insult are ****heads like you and Herring.



You insult everyone here almost every day you are here. I'll keep track
for you, eh?

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 04:36 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:54:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.


The current answer I am hearing from the victims was that this
evaluation should have immediately been put in the FBI NCIC database
and available to anyone who is willing to look for it, including the
firearms background check.
Unfortunately that would also be available to credit agencies,
employers and insurance companies. (hence the privacy concern)



I'm not sure, but I don't think HIPAA allows that.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man[_3_] August 11th 12 05:52 PM

Oh yeah, we need more of this...
 
On 8/11/12 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:36:44 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 11:26 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:54:52 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/11/12 1:50 AM,
wrote:


In the case of the Aurora shooter the university had pinpointed him as
being a potential threat but when he dropped out, they dropped their
concern. Maybe instead of suing the movie theater, they should sue the
university.


What do you think the university should have done after the shooter
dropped out in his mental health issues? This is a country with very
little in the way of decent public mental health services.

The current answer I am hearing from the victims was that this
evaluation should have immediately been put in the FBI NCIC database
and available to anyone who is willing to look for it, including the
firearms background check.
Unfortunately that would also be available to credit agencies,
employers and insurance companies. (hence the privacy concern)



I'm not sure, but I don't think HIPAA allows that.


Therein lies the problem doesn't it. Public safety vs privacy.

You end up finding yourself in exactly the same position as the NRA
and I am sure you are both uncomfortable there.
Should a doctor or psychologist be able to put an entry in the NCIC
that would block a gun sale and how do you do that without also
telling everyone else why.
It does open up the question, what else would that information be used
for?
Would employers avoid hiring that person?
Would landlords not rent to them?
Would it affect their credit score?
Would they have problems getting accepted to college?
That would, in effect, be like having "a police record" with all the
ramifications that implies.



I would have no objection to requiring those seeking a concealable
handgun to subject themselves to a serious "pass/fail" psychological
exam by a licensed practitioner. This isn't foolproof, of course, but it
might screen out some sociopaths. Of course, the screens would be
subject to the wrath of the subjects. And of course, where would the
results of the test be entered.

I've never claimed keeping guns out of the hands of the crazies is easy,
but we sure need to at least start a rational dialogue about how to do it.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.


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