On 8/8/12 1:31 PM, wrote:
On 8 Aug 2012 13:23:23 GMT, x'man wrote:

When you spend federal funds on military hardware you are socializing
defense contractors.


The difference is you can talk the American public into buying a new
fighter jet we don't need but they won't buy a refrigerator they don't
need.

It doesn't make any sense to me either.

In the sales business they say there are only 2 emotions, love and
fear. Fear is easier to sell.

Defense is selling based on fear,
You can say the same thing about the trillion dollar "terrorism"
boondoggle.


I completely agree.



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On Wednesday, August 8, 2012 1:31:26 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
On 8 Aug 2012 13:23:23 GMT, x'man wrote:



When you spend federal funds on military hardware you are socializing

defense contractors.





The difference is you can talk the American public into buying a new

fighter jet we don't need but they won't buy a refrigerator they don't

need.



It doesn't make any sense to me either.



In the sales business they say there are only 2 emotions, love and

fear. Fear is easier to sell.



Defense is selling based on fear,

You can say the same thing about the trillion dollar "terrorism"

boondoggle.

To be clear, I'm not against trimming the defense budget. I am against socializing US industry.

Those evil military contractors build the world's best military equipment. If the government opened their own fighter jet factory (or refrigerator factory), we'd have jets and refrigerators that costs twice as much as current ones do and would only work half the time. Think Yugo.

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On 8 Aug 2012 13:23:23 GMT, x'man wrote:

When you spend federal funds on military hardware you are socializing
defense contractors.


The difference is you can talk the American public into buying a new
fighter jet we don't need but they won't buy a refrigerator they don't
need.

It doesn't make any sense to me either.

In the sales business they say there are only 2 emotions, love and
fear. Fear is easier to sell.

Defense is selling based on fear,
You can say the same thing about the trillion dollar "terrorism"
boondoggle.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this
Constitution for the United States of America."

On 8/8/12 7:36 PM, BAR wrote:
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says...

On 8 Aug 2012 13:23:23 GMT, x'man wrote:

When you spend federal funds on military hardware you are socializing
defense contractors.


The difference is you can talk the American public into buying a new
fighter jet we don't need but they won't buy a refrigerator they don't
need.

It doesn't make any sense to me either.

In the sales business they say there are only 2 emotions, love and
fear. Fear is easier to sell.

Defense is selling based on fear,
You can say the same thing about the trillion dollar "terrorism"
boondoggle.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this
Constitution for the United States of America."


Gosh.

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I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

X ` Man wrote:
On 8/8/12 12:05 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:47:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:


We should have cut military expenditures by 50 percent a dozen years
ago, and kept on cutting. What a colossal waste of national resources.

The real problem is that is probably the biggest single jobs program.

I was just in Southern Md and the Navy points out that if they closed
Pax River the whole economy down there would dry up and blow away. You
are certainly not supporting that area with a few crab shacks and
fishing charters.
The CO even thought of paying everyone on the base with $2 bills for a
month so everyone else would understand where the money they have,
comes from.

You hear the same thing everywhere there is a military base.
You also have all if the defense contractors, that are fairly evenly
spread across the whole country. There are very few congressmen who
want to lose a widget factory in their district.

It is the kind of Keynesian socialism lefties like you usually
support.

DoD is a drug that the whole country is addicted to.



As I stated, we should have started cutting the military drastically
at least a dozen years ago, and turned our attention towards
rebuilding our industries and infrastructure, instead of pouring it
down the toilet of military expenditures. Those military hardware
factories could be turning out components for high speed rail lines or
lawnmowers or refrigerators.

But they wouldn't. The greedy unions demand far too much to make the US
competitive.

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On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:36:55 -0400, BAR wrote:

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says...

On 8 Aug 2012 13:23:23 GMT, x'man wrote:

When you spend federal funds on military hardware you are socializing
defense contractors.


The difference is you can talk the American public into buying a new
fighter jet we don't need but they won't buy a refrigerator they don't
need.

It doesn't make any sense to me either.

In the sales business they say there are only 2 emotions, love and
fear. Fear is easier to sell.

Defense is selling based on fear,
You can say the same thing about the trillion dollar "terrorism"
boondoggle.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this
Constitution for the United States of America."


It doesn't need to cost $800 billion a year to provide for the common
defence. In fact, when we are borrowing that money from our potential
enemy it is doing exactly the opposite.

They don't need to start a war to take our country, they can just buy
it in the foreclosure auction.

The problem is where people believe that promote and provide are the
same thing. Entitlements should be terminated immediately.

On 8/9/12 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:56:06 -0400, BAR wrote:

Entitlements should be terminated immediately.

Young guy ;-)


Simple minded guy.

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I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

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On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:18:58 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/9/12 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:56:06 -0400, BAR wrote:

Entitlements should be terminated immediately.

Young guy ;-)


Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:18:58 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/9/12 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:56:06 -0400, BAR wrote:

Entitlements should be terminated immediately.

Young guy ;-)


Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.
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I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:18:15 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/10/12 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
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says...

Simple minded guy.

Get used to it. Lots of Gen X and millennial will be saying this when
the cost of those entitlements start showing up on their W-2

I am 51 and I have planned my retirement to not expect any government
handouts.


There's always the hope you'll be wiped out by more shenanigans on Wall
Street. Then you can start a new career as a Wal-Mart greeter, thus
proving the validity of the Peter Principle.

Harry, What's your plan, when the financial system crashes?
I bet your union pension is invested in Wall Street too.
Where are your personal investments?

What amazes me is that Harry out of one side of his mouth acts like he
is for the little man, the working class if it were. Then on the other
side, he constantly insults those who ARE the working class.