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John H.[_5_] July 31st 12 02:18 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?

Any recommendations?


YES!!

First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and Dead Horse Point SP. A
week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.

Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south. Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for
pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or more, and continue on Hwy 12
'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic place. While there, be sure and
take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is right there at the
campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but I'd make reservations early.
( http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs ). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a mule ride.

From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion NP. Plan on a few days
there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.

From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim. Be sure to stop at Jacobs
Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon, head over to Page, AZ, rent a
pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower Antelope Canyon. Take a
tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take your time with your
pictures.

Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed home. I'd like to do the whole
thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get to, like Lake Powell.

Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or cabins, make reservations really
early. I'd start calling them now. ( http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6 )

Hope you have a super trip!

Wayne.B July 31st 12 02:31 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:18:43 -0400, John H.
wrote:

In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?

Any recommendations?


YES!!

First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and Dead Horse Point SP. A
week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.

Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south. Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for
pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or more, and continue on Hwy 12
'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic place. While there, be sure and
take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is right there at the
campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but I'd make reservations early.
( http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs ). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a mule ride.

From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion NP. Plan on a few days
there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.

From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim. Be sure to stop at Jacobs
Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon, head over to Page, AZ, rent a
pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower Antelope Canyon. Take a
tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take your time with your
pictures.

Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed home. I'd like to do the whole
thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get to, like Lake Powell.

Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or cabins, make reservations really
early. I'd start calling them now. ( http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6 )

Hope you have a super trip!


===

Thanks !


RG August 1st 12 03:27 PM

Yo Wayne!
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?

Any recommendations?


YES!!

First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and
Dead Horse Point SP. A
week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.

Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south.
Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for
pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or
more, and continue on Hwy 12
'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic
place. While there, be sure and
take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is
right there at the
campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but
I'd make reservations early.
( http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs ). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a
mule ride.

From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion
NP. Plan on a few days
there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.

From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim.
Be sure to stop at Jacobs
Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon,
head over to Page, AZ, rent a
pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower
Antelope Canyon. Take a
tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take
your time with your
pictures.

Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed
home. I'd like to do the whole
thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get
to, like Lake Powell.

Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or
cabins, make reservations really
early. I'd start calling them now. ( http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6 )

Hope you have a super trip!


-------------------------------

Hi Wayne,

As John has stated, there is much to see in this area. Without knowing your
arrival point and dates of visit it's hard to provide specifics, but I'll
add to some of John's comments.

Although not exactly what I'd call southern Utah, I would agree that a trip
to Arches NP would be well worth the trip. Much to see in a fairly compact
National Park. I've not visited Canyonlands NP or Capitol Reef NP, but I
would imagine they would be worthwhile, as well. They both cover
considerably more ground than Arches. As John has mentioned, Highway 12
from Highway 89 to Highway 24 is renowned for its scenery. It's a
must-drive.

Focusing more on southern Utah, I would have to consider Bryce Canyon NP a
highlight. Out of this world scenery. There is a lodge in the park that
rents cabins that are nearly on the rim of the canyon. I like staying in
the lodges inside the parks, and this one is no exception. I've not spent a
lot of time in Zion NP, but it's certainly worth at least a drive through
and a stop for lunch. To the southwest of Zion is Coral Pink Sand Dunes
State Park, which is certainly worth a short side trip.

From there, it's a must that you cross the border into northern Arizona. A
trip to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is highly advisable, but be
advised that the North Rim closes in mid-October. Stay at the Grand Canyon
Lodge if you make this trip. I can't imagine being in the neighborhood
without giving Lake Powell serious consideration, especially knowing your
appreciation of the water. You'll want to base yourself out of the Lake
Powell Resort, at Wahweap. Now it just becomes a matter of time available
as to how you see the lake. Ideally, this would involve both a houseboat
rental and a runabout rental as a tagalong chase boat. This allows you to
be comfortable for a number of nights out on the lake, but allows for seeing
much more of the lake with the speed of the runabout while using the
houseboat as a mother ship. Short of that, a runabout rental out of Wahweap
will allow for a day trip into the lower part of the lake. And finally, if
you want to let someone else do the driving, there is an all-day tour boat
that will take you to Rainbow Bridge, with other stops along the way. While
at Lake Powell, the slot canyons just outside of Page will provide scenery
you will never forget. I would recommend a visit to both Upper and Lower
Antelope Canyons. If time allowed, a trip to Canyon X would be enjoyable as
well

If time allows, I would heartily endorse a trip to Monument Valley. It's as
iconic of the American West as it gets. The Navajo recently built a new
hotel called The View, which would be the ideal place to stay. An optional
adjunct to Monument Valley would be a trip over to Canyon de Chelly. Not as
iconic as Monument Valley, but lots of scenery and history.

I don't remember if you received copies of my eBooks, but if you did, and if
you did, the 2007 book "Beyond the Equinox" covers much of southern Utah.
The 2009 book "Wish You Were Here!" covers the Lake Powell and Page areas.
If you don't have them, email me and I'll find a way to get them to you.
Also, if you'd like more detailed information and assistance with building
an itinerary for the area, I'd be happy to help. Lastly, at least let me
know when and where you plan to be. I'm always up for a road trip!

Russ



Wayne.B August 1st 12 06:02 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:27:05 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?

Any recommendations?


YES!!

First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and
Dead Horse Point SP. A
week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.

Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south.
Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for
pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or
more, and continue on Hwy 12
'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic
place. While there, be sure and
take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is
right there at the
campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but
I'd make reservations early.
( http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs ). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a
mule ride.

From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion
NP. Plan on a few days
there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.

From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim.
Be sure to stop at Jacobs
Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon,
head over to Page, AZ, rent a
pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower
Antelope Canyon. Take a
tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take
your time with your
pictures.

Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed
home. I'd like to do the whole
thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get
to, like Lake Powell.

Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or
cabins, make reservations really
early. I'd start calling them now. ( http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6 )

Hope you have a super trip!


-------------------------------

Hi Wayne,

As John has stated, there is much to see in this area. Without knowing your
arrival point and dates of visit it's hard to provide specifics, but I'll
add to some of John's comments.

Although not exactly what I'd call southern Utah, I would agree that a trip
to Arches NP would be well worth the trip. Much to see in a fairly compact
National Park. I've not visited Canyonlands NP or Capitol Reef NP, but I
would imagine they would be worthwhile, as well. They both cover
considerably more ground than Arches. As John has mentioned, Highway 12
from Highway 89 to Highway 24 is renowned for its scenery. It's a
must-drive.

Focusing more on southern Utah, I would have to consider Bryce Canyon NP a
highlight. Out of this world scenery. There is a lodge in the park that
rents cabins that are nearly on the rim of the canyon. I like staying in
the lodges inside the parks, and this one is no exception. I've not spent a
lot of time in Zion NP, but it's certainly worth at least a drive through
and a stop for lunch. To the southwest of Zion is Coral Pink Sand Dunes
State Park, which is certainly worth a short side trip.

From there, it's a must that you cross the border into northern Arizona. A
trip to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is highly advisable, but be
advised that the North Rim closes in mid-October. Stay at the Grand Canyon
Lodge if you make this trip. I can't imagine being in the neighborhood
without giving Lake Powell serious consideration, especially knowing your
appreciation of the water. You'll want to base yourself out of the Lake
Powell Resort, at Wahweap. Now it just becomes a matter of time available
as to how you see the lake. Ideally, this would involve both a houseboat
rental and a runabout rental as a tagalong chase boat. This allows you to
be comfortable for a number of nights out on the lake, but allows for seeing
much more of the lake with the speed of the runabout while using the
houseboat as a mother ship. Short of that, a runabout rental out of Wahweap
will allow for a day trip into the lower part of the lake. And finally, if
you want to let someone else do the driving, there is an all-day tour boat
that will take you to Rainbow Bridge, with other stops along the way. While
at Lake Powell, the slot canyons just outside of Page will provide scenery
you will never forget. I would recommend a visit to both Upper and Lower
Antelope Canyons. If time allowed, a trip to Canyon X would be enjoyable as
well

If time allows, I would heartily endorse a trip to Monument Valley. It's as
iconic of the American West as it gets. The Navajo recently built a new
hotel called The View, which would be the ideal place to stay. An optional
adjunct to Monument Valley would be a trip over to Canyon de Chelly. Not as
iconic as Monument Valley, but lots of scenery and history.

I don't remember if you received copies of my eBooks, but if you did, and if
you did, the 2007 book "Beyond the Equinox" covers much of southern Utah.
The 2009 book "Wish You Were Here!" covers the Lake Powell and Page areas.
If you don't have them, email me and I'll find a way to get them to you.
Also, if you'd like more detailed information and assistance with building
an itinerary for the area, I'd be happy to help. Lastly, at least let me
know when and where you plan to be. I'm always up for a road trip!

Russ


===

Thanks Russ, good to know you're still following the group.


Meyer[_2_] August 1st 12 06:16 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On 8/1/2012 1:02 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:27:05 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?

Any recommendations?

YES!!

First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and
Dead Horse Point SP. A
week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.

Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south.
Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for
pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or
more, and continue on Hwy 12
'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic
place. While there, be sure and
take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is
right there at the
campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but
I'd make reservations early.
( http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs ). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a
mule ride.

From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion
NP. Plan on a few days
there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.

From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim.
Be sure to stop at Jacobs
Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon,
head over to Page, AZ, rent a
pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower
Antelope Canyon. Take a
tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take
your time with your
pictures.

Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed
home. I'd like to do the whole
thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get
to, like Lake Powell.

Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or
cabins, make reservations really
early. I'd start calling them now. ( http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6 )

Hope you have a super trip!


-------------------------------

Hi Wayne,

As John has stated, there is much to see in this area. Without knowing your
arrival point and dates of visit it's hard to provide specifics, but I'll
add to some of John's comments.

Although not exactly what I'd call southern Utah, I would agree that a trip
to Arches NP would be well worth the trip. Much to see in a fairly compact
National Park. I've not visited Canyonlands NP or Capitol Reef NP, but I
would imagine they would be worthwhile, as well. They both cover
considerably more ground than Arches. As John has mentioned, Highway 12
from Highway 89 to Highway 24 is renowned for its scenery. It's a
must-drive.

Focusing more on southern Utah, I would have to consider Bryce Canyon NP a
highlight. Out of this world scenery. There is a lodge in the park that
rents cabins that are nearly on the rim of the canyon. I like staying in
the lodges inside the parks, and this one is no exception. I've not spent a
lot of time in Zion NP, but it's certainly worth at least a drive through
and a stop for lunch. To the southwest of Zion is Coral Pink Sand Dunes
State Park, which is certainly worth a short side trip.

From there, it's a must that you cross the border into northern Arizona. A
trip to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is highly advisable, but be
advised that the North Rim closes in mid-October. Stay at the Grand Canyon
Lodge if you make this trip. I can't imagine being in the neighborhood
without giving Lake Powell serious consideration, especially knowing your
appreciation of the water. You'll want to base yourself out of the Lake
Powell Resort, at Wahweap. Now it just becomes a matter of time available
as to how you see the lake. Ideally, this would involve both a houseboat
rental and a runabout rental as a tagalong chase boat. This allows you to
be comfortable for a number of nights out on the lake, but allows for seeing
much more of the lake with the speed of the runabout while using the
houseboat as a mother ship. Short of that, a runabout rental out of Wahweap
will allow for a day trip into the lower part of the lake. And finally, if
you want to let someone else do the driving, there is an all-day tour boat
that will take you to Rainbow Bridge, with other stops along the way. While
at Lake Powell, the slot canyons just outside of Page will provide scenery
you will never forget. I would recommend a visit to both Upper and Lower
Antelope Canyons. If time allowed, a trip to Canyon X would be enjoyable as
well

If time allows, I would heartily endorse a trip to Monument Valley. It's as
iconic of the American West as it gets. The Navajo recently built a new
hotel called The View, which would be the ideal place to stay. An optional
adjunct to Monument Valley would be a trip over to Canyon de Chelly. Not as
iconic as Monument Valley, but lots of scenery and history.

I don't remember if you received copies of my eBooks, but if you did, and if
you did, the 2007 book "Beyond the Equinox" covers much of southern Utah.
The 2009 book "Wish You Were Here!" covers the Lake Powell and Page areas.
If you don't have them, email me and I'll find a way to get them to you.
Also, if you'd like more detailed information and assistance with building
an itinerary for the area, I'd be happy to help. Lastly, at least let me
know when and where you plan to be. I'm always up for a road trip!

Russ


===

Thanks Russ, good to know you're still following the group.


If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.

RG August 1st 12 06:43 PM

Yo Wayne!
 

Thanks Russ, good to know you're still following the group.


That may be overstating my level of involvement and participation in this
train wreck just a bit, but please do let me know if I can be of any further
assistance, and if you'd be interested in a meet-up while you're out in the
wild west searching for Indians.

Russ



Wayne.B August 1st 12 09:11 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:

If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.


===

Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.

:-)


RG August 1st 12 09:20 PM

Yo Wayne!
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:

If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.


===

Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.

:-)


I certain parts of southern Utah, you wouldn't necessarily have to trade in
the current model. It's customary just to bring on a new addition to the
matrimonial unit. Why anybody in their right mind would choose to do so, I
can't answer.

Russ



Wayne.B August 2nd 12 01:24 AM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 13:20:47 -0700, "RG" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:

If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.


===

Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.

:-)


I certain parts of southern Utah, you wouldn't necessarily have to trade in
the current model. It's customary just to bring on a new addition to the
matrimonial unit. Why anybody in their right mind would choose to do so, I
can't answer.



===

:-)


John H.[_5_] August 2nd 12 02:59 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:41:59 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:

If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.


===

Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.

:-)



That's why I like mine. A near death experience in the rent a car on
some mountain dirt road is expected. She likes to pick out the most
obscure route to get anywhere when we are on vacation

One thing we noticed in Az/Nm is every time you stop to look at
something. you have to give an Indian $10.


We didn't notice that. In Monument Valley, there are tours put on by the Navajo which cost. But,
they're worth it. Many of the sites are in the Navajo Nation, and there is a charge to visit a lot
of them. We didn't pay the bucks to get our picture taken at the Four Corners park! Here is a map of
the Navajo Nation showing some of the sites in the area.

http://discovernavajo.com/images/Navajomap.jpg

Also, Wayne (if you're still reading), be sure and hit the Navajo flea market in Tuba City. It is
well worth the hour (or so) drive south of Page.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 2nd 12 08:07 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:59:48 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:41:59 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:

If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.

===

Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.

:-)


That's why I like mine. A near death experience in the rent a car on
some mountain dirt road is expected. She likes to pick out the most
obscure route to get anywhere when we are on vacation

One thing we noticed in Az/Nm is every time you stop to look at
something. you have to give an Indian $10.


We didn't notice that. In Monument Valley, there are tours put on by the Navajo which cost. But,
they're worth it. Many of the sites are in the Navajo Nation, and there is a charge to visit a lot
of them. We didn't pay the bucks to get our picture taken at the Four Corners park! Here is a map of
the Navajo Nation showing some of the sites in the area.

http://discovernavajo.com/images/Navajomap.jpg

Also, Wayne (if you're still reading), be sure and hit the Navajo flea market in Tuba City. It is
well worth the hour (or so) drive south of Page.


When we were at 4 corners we had to give an Indian $10 each to walk
down to the (misplaced) marker.
They also charged us just to drive into Monument Valley. In fact I
have a picture of a "free" monument and a $20 one (outside the gate).
They look very much the same.
At the Canyon de Chelly there was a drunk Indian with a knife on the
trail demanding $50. Some people in the parking lot actually paid him.
I just told him to get the **** away from me and my wife moved around
behind him with a big rock in her hand. He got the **** away. I think
we paid $10 there too.
I know it was so common that we started joking about it.
I do understand that this is about all we gave them when we stole the
rest of their property and they have a right to make a buck on it.


That's very true. I ended up in a hospital in Durango CO because I
bought some Reeses candy in a small store in the middle of nowhere and
got food poisoning! It's too bad they don't have facilities and such to
make an decent living. Of course, just like the rest of society, there
will be some that just don't want to.

North Star August 2nd 12 09:42 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Aug 2, 4:07*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:59:48 -0400, John H.
wrote:


On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:41:59 -0400, wrote:


On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:


If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.


===


Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.


:-)


That's why I like mine. A near death experience in the rent a car on
some mountain dirt road is expected. She likes to pick out the most
obscure route to get anywhere when we are on vacation


One thing we noticed in Az/Nm is every time you stop to look at
something. you have to give an Indian $10.


We didn't notice that. In Monument Valley, there are tours put on by the Navajo which cost. But,
they're worth it. Many of the sites are in the Navajo Nation, and there is a charge to visit a lot
of them. We didn't pay the bucks to get our picture taken at the Four Corners park! Here is a map of
the Navajo Nation showing some of the sites in the area.


http://discovernavajo.com/images/Navajomap.jpg


Also, Wayne (if you're still reading), be sure and hit the Navajo flea market in Tuba City. It is
well worth the hour (or so) drive south of Page.


When we were at 4 corners we had to give an Indian $10 each to walk
down to the (misplaced) marker.
They also charged us just to drive into Monument Valley. In fact I
have a picture of a "free" monument and a $20 one (outside the gate).
They look very much the same.
At the Canyon de Chelly there was a drunk Indian with a knife on the
trail demanding $50. Some people in the parking lot actually paid him.
I just told him to get the **** away from me and my wife moved around
behind him with a big rock in her hand. He got the **** away. I think
we paid $10 there too.
I know it was so common that we started joking about it.
I do understand that this is about all we gave them when we stole the
rest of their property and they have a right to make a buck on it.


That's very true. I ended up in a hospital in Durango CO because I
bought some Reeses candy in a small store in the middle of nowhere and
got food poisoning! It's too bad they don't have facilities and such to
make an decent living. Of course, just like the rest of society, there
will be some that just don't want to.


Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?
I don't buy unless I find that 'expiry date' stamped on food.

iBoaterer[_2_] August 3rd 12 01:15 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
In article bb0f248f-68f2-488e-bf90-986388fd91b7
@h5g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 2, 4:07*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:59:48 -0400, John H.
wrote:


On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:41:59 -0400, wrote:


On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:


If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.


===


Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.


:-)


That's why I like mine. A near death experience in the rent a car on
some mountain dirt road is expected. She likes to pick out the most
obscure route to get anywhere when we are on vacation


One thing we noticed in Az/Nm is every time you stop to look at
something. you have to give an Indian $10.


We didn't notice that. In Monument Valley, there are tours put on by the Navajo which cost. But,
they're worth it. Many of the sites are in the Navajo Nation, and there is a charge to visit a lot
of them. We didn't pay the bucks to get our picture taken at the Four Corners park! Here is a map of
the Navajo Nation showing some of the sites in the area.


http://discovernavajo.com/images/Navajomap.jpg

Also, Wayne (if you're still reading), be sure and hit the Navajo flea market in Tuba City. It is
well worth the hour (or so) drive south of Page.


When we were at 4 corners we had to give an Indian $10 each to walk
down to the (misplaced) marker.
They also charged us just to drive into Monument Valley. In fact I
have a picture of a "free" monument and a $20 one (outside the gate).
They look very much the same.
At the Canyon de Chelly there was a drunk Indian with a knife on the
trail demanding $50. Some people in the parking lot actually paid him.
I just told him to get the **** away from me and my wife moved around
behind him with a big rock in her hand. He got the **** away. I think
we paid $10 there too.
I know it was so common that we started joking about it.
I do understand that this is about all we gave them when we stole the
rest of their property and they have a right to make a buck on it.


That's very true. I ended up in a hospital in Durango CO because I
bought some Reeses candy in a small store in the middle of nowhere and
got food poisoning! It's too bad they don't have facilities and such to
make an decent living. Of course, just like the rest of society, there
will be some that just don't want to.


Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?
I don't buy unless I find that 'expiry date' stamped on food.


Well, you stupid old fool, it was well before they had expiry dates on
food. Now go make yourself look even dumber.

North Star August 3rd 12 03:18 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Aug 3, 9:15*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article bb0f248f-68f2-488e-bf90-986388fd91b7
@h5g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...







On Aug 2, 4:07 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...


On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:59:48 -0400, John H.
wrote:


On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 00:41:59 -0400, wrote:


On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:16:28 -0400, Meyer wrote:


If you go to Dead Horse Point, there is an unpaved trail that winds it's
way to Moab. It's probably about 10 miles but it'll take 2 hours to make
the run by, preferably, 4wd, but a car could do it.


===


Good information but first I'd have to find another wife.


:-)


That's why I like mine. A near death experience in the rent a car on
some mountain dirt road is expected. She likes to pick out the most
obscure route to get anywhere when we are on vacation


One thing we noticed in Az/Nm is every time you stop to look at
something. you have to give an Indian $10.


We didn't notice that. In Monument Valley, there are tours put on by the Navajo which cost. But,
they're worth it. Many of the sites are in the Navajo Nation, and there is a charge to visit a lot
of them. We didn't pay the bucks to get our picture taken at the Four Corners park! Here is a map of
the Navajo Nation showing some of the sites in the area.


http://discovernavajo.com/images/Navajomap.jpg


Also, Wayne (if you're still reading), be sure and hit the Navajo flea market in Tuba City. It is
well worth the hour (or so) drive south of Page.


When we were at 4 corners we had to give an Indian $10 each to walk
down to the (misplaced) marker.
They also charged us just to drive into Monument Valley. In fact I
have a picture of a "free" monument and a $20 one (outside the gate).
They look very much the same.
At the Canyon de Chelly there was a drunk Indian with a knife on the
trail demanding $50. Some people in the parking lot actually paid him.
I just told him to get the **** away from me and my wife moved around
behind him with a big rock in her hand. He got the **** away. I think
we paid $10 there too.
I know it was so common that we started joking about it.
I do understand that this is about all we gave them when we stole the
rest of their property and they have a right to make a buck on it.


That's very true. I ended up in a hospital in Durango CO because I
bought some Reeses candy in a small store in the middle of nowhere and
got food poisoning! It's too bad they don't have facilities and such to
make an decent living. Of course, just like the rest of society, there
will be some that just don't want to.


Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?
I don't buy unless I find that 'expiry date' stamped on food.


Well, you stupid old fool, it was well before they had expiry dates on
food. Now go make yourself look even dumber.


Well..if it was that long ago Kevin, you must be a "stupid old fool"
also.

Meyer[_2_] August 3rd 12 03:24 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On 8/3/2012 10:18 AM, North Star wrote:

Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?


Here's some help for your stale dating problem
http://www.helium.com/items/2280628-re-finding-love

iBoaterer[_2_] August 3rd 12 03:43 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
In article m,
says...

On 8/3/2012 10:18 AM, North Star wrote:

Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?


Here's some help for your stale dating problem
http://www.helium.com/items/2280628-re-finding-love

Is Don and Harry's relationship getting stale?!

North Star August 3rd 12 03:47 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Aug 3, 11:24*am, Meyer wrote:
On 8/3/2012 10:18 AM, North Star wrote:

Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?


Here's some help for your stale dating problemhttp://www.helium.com/items/2280628-re-finding-love


I think you meant to reply to kevin.
He's the one with the "stale" problem.

North Star August 3rd 12 03:49 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Aug 3, 11:43*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...



On 8/3/2012 10:18 AM, North Star wrote:


Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?


Here's some help for your stale dating problem
http://www.helium.com/items/2280628-re-finding-love


Is Don and Harry's relationship getting stale?!


Projecting Kevin?
It's painfully obvious to all that yours and Snotty's relationship has
gone south.. all the way south to Floriduh. Snerk!

X ` Man[_3_] August 3rd 12 03:55 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On 8/3/12 10:47 AM, North Star wrote:
On Aug 3, 11:24 am, Meyer wrote:
On 8/3/2012 10:18 AM, North Star wrote:

Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?


Here's some help for your stale dating problemhttp://www.helium.com/items/2280628-re-finding-love


I think you meant to reply to kevin.
He's the one with the "stale" problem.



All of iLoogy's dates are stale.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

Meyer[_2_] August 3rd 12 03:58 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On 8/3/2012 10:47 AM, North Star wrote:
On Aug 3, 11:24 am, Meyer wrote:
On 8/3/2012 10:18 AM, North Star wrote:

Y'all never heard of 'stale dating'?


Here's some help for your stale dating problemhttp://www.helium.com/items/2280628-re-finding-love


I think you meant to reply to kevin.
He's the one with the "stale" problem.


His problem was contaminated candy, if I'm not mistaken.
Stale dating is an issue you brought up.

John H.[_5_] August 4th 12 12:53 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:18:43 -0400, John H. wrote:

In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?

Any recommendations?


YES!!

First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and Dead Horse Point SP. A
week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.

Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south. Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for
pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or more, and continue on Hwy 12
'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic place. While there, be sure and
take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is right there at the
campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but I'd make reservations early.
( http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs ). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a mule ride.

From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion NP. Plan on a few days
there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.

From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim. Be sure to stop at Jacobs
Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon, head over to Page, AZ, rent a
pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower Antelope Canyon. Take a
tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take your time with your
pictures.

Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed home. I'd like to do the whole
thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get to, like Lake Powell.

Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or cabins, make reservations really
early. I'd start calling them now. ( http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6 )

Hope you have a super trip!


And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky. They add so much to photographs.

Wayne.B August 4th 12 03:26 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!


And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky. They add so much to photographs.


===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.


John H.[_5_] August 4th 12 08:43 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky. They add so much to photographs.


===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.


If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg

The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg

Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg

and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg


John H.[_5_] August 4th 12 08:44 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky. They add so much to photographs.


===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.


If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg

The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg

Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg

and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg


That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.

John H.[_5_] August 5th 12 01:06 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:27:57 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:44:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky. They add so much to photographs.

===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.

If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg

The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg

Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg

and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg


That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.


Albuquerque is a great place to balloon


One of my wife's sisters lives there. More reason to stop for a visit.

John H.[_5_] August 5th 12 04:43 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:39:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:06:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:27:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:44:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky. They add so much to photographs.

===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.

If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg

The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg

Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg

and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg

That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.

Albuquerque is a great place to balloon


One of my wife's sisters lives there. More reason to stop for a visit.


I am sure she knows all about it then. There is a big balloon park
north of town on 25.
We went from there but where you land depends on the wind and your
propane supply. The guy who's yard we landed in seemed to be pretty
good natured about it.


I just checked for RV sites for the October festival. Not much left.

Tim August 5th 12 10:18 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:18:43 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:



On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:



We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?




Any recommendations?




YES!!



First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and Dead Horse Point SP. A

week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.



Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south. Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for

pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or more, and continue on Hwy 12

'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic place. While there, be sure and

take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is right there at the

campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but I'd make reservations early.

( http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs ). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a mule ride.



From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion NP. Plan on a few days

there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.



From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim. Be sure to stop at Jacobs

Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon, head over to Page, AZ, rent a

pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower Antelope Canyon. Take a

tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take your time with your

pictures.



Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed home. I'd like to do the whole

thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get to, like Lake Powell.



Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or cabins, make reservations really

early. I'd start calling them now. ( http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6 )



Hope you have a super trip!


AND, If you take a route close to St. Louis. to Indianapolis, give me advanced notice and it's lunch!

Wayne.B August 6th 12 12:05 AM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!


AND, If you take a route close to St. Louis. to Indianapolis, give me advanced notice and it's lunch!


===

I 'd like to do that and appreciate the offer, but unfortunately we
are flying out and back.


North Star August 6th 12 04:13 AM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Aug 5, 6:18*pm, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:18:43 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:


On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?


Any recommendations?


YES!!


First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and Dead Horse Point SP. A


week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.


Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south. Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for


pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or more, and continue on Hwy 12


'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic place. While there, be sure and


take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is right there at the


campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but I'd make reservations early.


(http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a mule ride.


From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion NP. Plan on a few days


there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.


From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim.. Be sure to stop at Jacobs


Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon, head over to Page, AZ, rent a


pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower Antelope Canyon. Take a


tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take your time with your


pictures.


Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed home. I'd like to do the whole


thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get to, like Lake Powell.


Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or cabins, make reservations really


early. I'd start calling them now. (http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6)


Hope you have a super trip!


AND, If you take a route close to St. Louis. to Indianapolis, give me advanced notice and it's lunch!


Met a couple this afternoon down at the Hubbards boat launch that
biked all the way in from Chicago on their Harleys..
Now that would be quite the ride.

Tim August 6th 12 04:55 AM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:05:04 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



Hope you have a super trip!




AND, If you take a route close to St. Louis. to Indianapolis, give me advanced notice and it's lunch!




===



I 'd like to do that and appreciate the offer, but unfortunately we

are flying out and back.


So?

Tim August 6th 12 04:58 AM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sunday, August 5, 2012 10:13:05 PM UTC-5, North Star wrote:
:


Met a couple this afternoon down at the Hubbards boat launch that

biked all the way in from Chicago on their Harleys..

Now that would be quite the ride.


This past summer, my brothers rode their gold wing Honda's to Washington and took a ferry to Alaska and biked their way back to S. Illinois. They loved it!


JustWait[_2_] August 6th 12 10:43 AM

Yo Wayne!
 
On 8/5/2012 1:46 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:43:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:39:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:06:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:27:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:44:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky. They add so much to photographs.

===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.

If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg

The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg

Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg

and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg

That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.

Albuquerque is a great place to balloon

One of my wife's sisters lives there. More reason to stop for a visit.

I am sure she knows all about it then. There is a big balloon park
north of town on 25.
We went from there but where you land depends on the wind and your
propane supply. The guy who's yard we landed in seemed to be pretty
good natured about it.


I just checked for RV sites for the October festival. Not much left.

Usually it is better to avoid "festivals". They do the ballooning all
the time.


Never done it but I would think a Fall ride here in New England would be
more fun than looking down at a bunch of sand... They do fall trips up
here all the time.

Meyer[_2_] August 6th 12 01:54 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On 8/6/2012 5:43 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 8/5/2012 1:46 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:43:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:39:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:06:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:27:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:44:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky.
They add so much to photographs.

===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.

If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg


The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg


Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg


and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat
didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg


That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.

Albuquerque is a great place to balloon

One of my wife's sisters lives there. More reason to stop for a visit.

I am sure she knows all about it then. There is a big balloon park
north of town on 25.
We went from there but where you land depends on the wind and your
propane supply. The guy who's yard we landed in seemed to be pretty
good natured about it.

I just checked for RV sites for the October festival. Not much left.

Usually it is better to avoid "festivals". They do the ballooning all
the time.


Never done it but I would think a Fall ride here in New England would be
more fun than looking down at a bunch of sand... They do fall trips up
here all the time.


People seem to be fascinated by watching beautiful green leaves wither
and fall from the trees.

North Star August 6th 12 02:03 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Aug 6, 9:54*am, Meyer wrote:
On 8/6/2012 5:43 AM, JustWait wrote:









On 8/5/2012 1:46 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:43:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:


On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:39:44 -0400, wrote:


On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:06:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:


On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:27:57 -0400, wrote:


On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:44:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:


On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400, wrote:


On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:


On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.
wrote:


Hope you have a super trip!


And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky.
They add so much to photographs.


===


Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.


If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.


You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...Blowing%20up%2...


The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...Rio%20Grande%2...


Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...Private%20golf...


and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat
didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...Balloon%20land...


That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.


Albuquerque is a *great place to balloon


One of my wife's sisters lives there. More reason to stop for a visit.


I am sure she knows all about it then. There is a big balloon park
north of town on 25.
We went from there but where you land depends on the wind and your
propane supply. The guy who's yard we landed in seemed to be pretty
good natured about it.


I just checked for RV sites for the October festival. Not much left.
Usually it is better to avoid "festivals". They do the ballooning all
the time.


Never done it but I would think a Fall ride here in New England would be
more fun than looking down at a bunch of sand... * They do fall trips up
here all the time.


People seem to be fascinated by watching beautiful green leaves wither
and fall from the trees.


Most Beautiful time of the year. The trick is to time it right and see
the fall foliage at it's peak.
Can be a slightly sad time of year though because those beautiful
leaves will soon be gone and the world turns dull for 5 months. A nice
snowfall helps brighten things up.

JustWait[_2_] August 6th 12 02:18 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On 8/6/2012 8:54 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 8/6/2012 5:43 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 8/5/2012 1:46 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:43:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:39:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:06:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:27:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:44:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.

wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky.
They add so much to photographs.

===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.

If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg



The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg



Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg



and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat
didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg



That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.

Albuquerque is a great place to balloon

One of my wife's sisters lives there. More reason to stop for a
visit.

I am sure she knows all about it then. There is a big balloon park
north of town on 25.
We went from there but where you land depends on the wind and your
propane supply. The guy who's yard we landed in seemed to be pretty
good natured about it.

I just checked for RV sites for the October festival. Not much left.
Usually it is better to avoid "festivals". They do the ballooning all
the time.


Never done it but I would think a Fall ride here in New England would be
more fun than looking down at a bunch of sand... They do fall trips up
here all the time.


People seem to be fascinated by watching beautiful green leaves wither
and fall from the trees.


Now you are starting to sound like Loogie there Captain... Of course
there is nobody I know who would go up to watch things die, but to see
the frekin' colors.. But go ahead, you moved out of here to get away
from the fall and cold, go balloon in the desert:)

John H.[_5_] August 6th 12 02:32 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:05:04 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!


AND, If you take a route close to St. Louis. to Indianapolis, give me advanced notice and it's lunch!


===

I 'd like to do that and appreciate the offer, but unfortunately we
are flying out and back.


Damn shame. You'll miss the best part of the whole trip!

John H.[_5_] August 6th 12 02:34 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:13:05 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:

On Aug 5, 6:18*pm, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:18:43 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
In case you missed the answer to your question in all the fighting:


On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:52:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


We are planning to spend some time in southern Utah later this year?


Any recommendations?


YES!!


First stop, Moab, UT. Visit Arches and Canyonlands National Parks (NP) and Dead Horse Point SP. A


week would be good here, but we stayed only four days.


Then back to I-70, west to Hwy 24 south. Follow to Hwy 12 south. Spectacular scenery. Don't stop for


pictures every ten minutes. Visit Capitol Reef NP for a couple hours or more, and continue on Hwy 12


'til you reach Hyw 63, and take a left to Bryce Canyon NP. Fantastic place. While there, be sure and


take the free bus tour offered by Ruby's Campground. The sign up place is right there at the


campground. If you're not camping, Ruby's Lodge seemed pretty nice, but I'd make reservations early.


(http://tinyurl.com/caa5mqs). A week in Bryce would be nice. Go on a mule ride.


From there, back to Hwy 12 west to Hwy 89, south to Hwy 9 and west to Zion NP. Plan on a few days


there, and be sure and take the bus tour through the park.


From there, drop down south and head east to the Grand Canyon North Rim. Be sure to stop at Jacobs


Lake and visit the trading post. After a few days at the Grand Canyon, head over to Page, AZ, rent a


pontoon boat and spend a few days on Lake Powell. Be sure to visit Lower Antelope Canyon. Take a


tripod, and they'll let you linger for a lot longer in the canyon and take your time with your


pictures.


Finally, we went to Monument Valley for a couple days and then headed home. I'd like to do the whole


thing again, with more time, and visit some of the places we didn't get to, like Lake Powell.


Start planning early. If you plan to visit and stay at the lodge or cabins, make reservations really


early. I'd start calling them now. (http://tinyurl.com/cjme7y6)


Hope you have a super trip!


AND, If you take a route close to St. Louis. to Indianapolis, give me advanced notice and it's lunch!


Met a couple this afternoon down at the Hubbards boat launch that
biked all the way in from Chicago on their Harleys..
Now that would be quite the ride.


Having put one 8500 mile trip on a bike, that sounds like fun.

However,it would have been much more enjoyable on a Moto Guzzi!

iBoaterer[_2_] August 6th 12 02:35 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
In article , says...

On 8/6/2012 8:54 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 8/6/2012 5:43 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 8/5/2012 1:46 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:43:02 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:39:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:06:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 23:27:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:44:19 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:26:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 07:53:24 -0400, John H.

wrote:

Hope you have a super trip!

And, before you go, pray for a few clouds floating in the sky.
They add so much to photographs.

===

Good idea but I've been sending all of my clouds to Tim lately.

If you get down into New Mexico a balloon ride is pretty cool.

You have to blow up your own balloon
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...p%20baloon.jpg



The view is great
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...%20balloon.jpg



Lots of rich people in New Mexico
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...f%20course.jpg



and you never know where you will land. The guy in the red hat
didn't
expect us in his yard.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/New%20Mexic...uys%20yard.jpg



That's on my wife's 'Want to do' list.

Albuquerque is a great place to balloon

One of my wife's sisters lives there. More reason to stop for a
visit.

I am sure she knows all about it then. There is a big balloon park
north of town on 25.
We went from there but where you land depends on the wind and your
propane supply. The guy who's yard we landed in seemed to be pretty
good natured about it.

I just checked for RV sites for the October festival. Not much left.
Usually it is better to avoid "festivals". They do the ballooning all
the time.


Never done it but I would think a Fall ride here in New England would be
more fun than looking down at a bunch of sand... They do fall trips up
here all the time.


People seem to be fascinated by watching beautiful green leaves wither
and fall from the trees.


Now you are starting to sound like Loogie there Captain... Of course
there is nobody I know who would go up to watch things die, but to see
the frekin' colors.. But go ahead, you moved out of here to get away
from the fall and cold, go balloon in the desert:)


I guess you've never seen the beauty of said desert, have you? New
Mexico is a beautiful state.

Wayne.B August 6th 12 08:39 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:18:49 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

But go ahead, you moved out of here to get away
from the fall and cold, go balloon in the desert:)


===

The desert has a beauty of its own, just like western mountains vs
eastern mountains; sea shore vs the Great Lakes; city vs country; etc.


Wayne.B August 6th 12 08:43 PM

Yo Wayne!
 
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:32:26 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I 'd like to do that and appreciate the offer, but unfortunately we
are flying out and back.


Damn shame. You'll miss the best part of the whole trip!


===

It certainly has its attractions but unfortunately my wife's back is
not up to that kind of long road trip at the moment.



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