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Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
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says... On 8/11/12 12:19 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote: That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB mouse 80 feet away. I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the pointing device. Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea. That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem. I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to put your documents on the flatbed. The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine, and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard in her home office. Sometimes less complicated is better. What's complicated about not running cables all over a room? 1. Where does it say "running cables all over a room"? 2. A simple USB cable connection is less complicated than a wireless router to USB hub to USB dongle to USB device. Yes, it's terribly complicated.... Don't try it. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
On 8/11/12 12:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:53:08 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote: That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB mouse 80 feet away. I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the pointing device. Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea. That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem. I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to put your documents on the flatbed. The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine, and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard in her home office. Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. I've been pleasantly surprised at the range of the signal from my wi-fi router. Our lower level is 9' of poured concrete floor to ceiling in most areas and of course the signal travels vertically throughout the house, but it also travels to the end of the driveway, and that's a combo of vertical and horizontal and quite a distance from the router as the bird flies. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
On 8/11/12 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:57:49 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 11:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote: That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB mouse 80 feet away. I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the pointing device. Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea. That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem. I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to put your documents on the flatbed. The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine, and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard in her home office. Sometimes less complicated is better. BTW, I love how this thread morphed from a discussion about fuel for home generators to USB devices. It's so very...rec.boats There are only about a dozen of us here who regularly post and we usually watch most of the threads. At least we are not bashing each other in this conversation. Actually, I don't mind the morphing one bit. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
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Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
On 8/11/2012 2:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:59:49 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 12:51 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:53:08 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote: That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB mouse 80 feet away. I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the pointing device. Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea. That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem. I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to put your documents on the flatbed. The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine, and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard in her home office. Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. I've been pleasantly surprised at the range of the signal from my wi-fi router. Our lower level is 9' of poured concrete floor to ceiling in most areas and of course the signal travels vertically throughout the house, but it also travels to the end of the driveway, and that's a combo of vertical and horizontal and quite a distance from the router as the bird flies. I can swap data with my neighbor through the window but as soon as you get a concrete block wall or two involved the range drops to virtually nothing. It might be that there is so much steel in our walls and that the whole thing is grounded. How far do you need to go? Can't you put it at a high point in the house. Heck, I am on half acre lots and get a strong signal (encrypted) from no less than two of my neighbors at any given time. Most likely from two houses both on about 75 yards from our router and the next likely candidate over a hundred yards from our router... Our router is in an office, one story ranch. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
On 8/11/2012 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 13:11:26 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:30:01 -0400, wrote: Do you have a wireless solution for USB devices. I am still looking for one. === Google up "wireless usb extender". There are a bunch of them available. ... for $350-400 a pop. I am not one of you 1%ers ;-) With 3 CBS walls between my computer and the spot I want the other end, I am far from convinced the thing would work anyway. WiFi doesn't. To make it work I would have to put the transmitter in the attic to get above the walls, running a wire down to the PC and at that point why not just throw the wire over to the end of the house and save $340. I am old school anyway I like wire. Yeah, my wife is the same way. I was just going to mention re my last post, our printer is BT and Wireless capable but the boss has wire from the router to it and her server too. Only Jess and I run wireless here and again, the printer is wired. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
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Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
In article ,
says... On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:53:08 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote: That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB mouse 80 feet away. I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the pointing device. Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea. That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem. I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to put your documents on the flatbed. The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine, and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard in her home office. Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
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Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
On 8/11/12 8:59 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:43:57 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Can you control your media server from the next room without needing another PC in there? I can control my media server from anywhere in the house via my iPhone or iPad. The media server is an app on my Synology server, which is hard-wired to my router and also accessible via Wi-Fi. I can play movies and music on either of those devices when I am away from home. I can record movies via a comcast app when I am away from home, too, although I've not tried that. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
JustWait wrote:
On 8/10/2012 11:18 PM, Earl wrote: Meyer wrote: On 8/10/2012 1:55 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:19:20 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 8/10/2012 12:13 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 8/10/12 12:03 PM, John H. wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:28:59 -0400, Meyer wrote: On 8/10/2012 10:12 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 8/10/12 8:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 8/9/2012 1:07 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/9/12 11:49 AM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:07:24 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/9/12 9:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:08:04 -0400, X ` Man wrote: It's a bit annoying that the propane dealers around here don't post their prices on their web sites. I don't mind paying the local "convenience" street price for filling up a small tank for an outdoor grill, but I'd sure like to know what the 20 or so "local" delivery suppliers are charging per gallon to fill our 500-gallon tank without having to call each one of them. There should be a "Propane Delivery Price" app! ==== Why not create a web site similar to what cruisers have been doing with diesel fuel prices? https://www.waterwayguide.com/fuel-pricing?area=cbdb That would be an interesting thing to do, but then you'd have to recruit a huge number of "reporters," and a homeowner buying a tankful of propane usually does not happen more than two or three times a year. As an example, we have a gas furnace, hot water heater, rangetop, fireplace, generator, et cetera, and we've never used more than 350 gallons of propane in a calendar year. Typically, the truck comes by for a partial fill-up in October and then another partial fill-up in March so that on those two dates, we actually have about 400 gallons of LP in the tank. Obviously, usage varies according to appliances and geography/weather. Plus, propane prices vary widely from dealer to dealer in the same market, depending upon when they bought their supplies and other factors. I was intrigued by this because a neighbor bought a near tankful of gas for about 25 cent less a gallon than I paid. His supplier was helpful on the phone and told me the wide variance is common among all dealers during the year, that at the next fill-up, his price could be higher than my dealer's, and that prices typically changed weekly. So, what is needed is not reportage of what Joe paid last week in nearby Dunkirk, MD, for example, but what XYZ Propane is charging for delivered LP *today* and what his 10 nearby competitors are charging *today*, so a call can be made and a delivery order placed for the lowest-priced supplier at a given moment. I'm going to contact my local state official to see if there is any interest in requiring propane dealers to post their delivered prices daily on their websites. They all seem to have decent websites. That way, it would be easy to check individually or even write a spider that would gather the prices on a webpage as you described. Before you go thru a rigmarole - the company that owns the tank is the only company that can fill it. Of course, if you personally own the tank and it meets the requirements of the other companies, you can deal with anyone. Otherwise, if you decide to switch companies, be prepared to switch tanks. My daughter is going thru this right now. She'll probably have two tanks at her house while waiting for the current tank to empty. When you stick to decent posts, you shouldn't deserve to be shunned. 1. You are correct in stating that the company that owns the tank is the only company that can fill it, contractually. 2. I bought my tank from the company that owned it. The approximate cost of a new *buried* 500-gallon tank these days is $2000 to $2500, I was told by two suppliers. It was about $500 to $1000 less when we bought this house. An above ground tank is much less expensive. I bought our tank for under $500. The LP gas company had been depreciating it for about 9 years, and company's cost of removing it so I could replace it with a new tank was more than the company wanted to pay. So the company made me an offer I could hardly refuse. :) I did this to save the 30 cents a gallon premium I was paying to fill the "rented" tank, and to be able to shop around for the best LP gas price when the tank needs a refill. These buried tanks supposedly have a "life" of 25 to 30 years if anodes were installed. They were on mine. I'll worry about the tank's end of life at that time only if I'm not buried. Not only is a buried tank more costly it's also less safe. An above ground tank is easy to visually see any potential spots that are severely rusted, etc. which may rupture and leak. Propane is heavier than air. Any leak will just sink further into the ground. No it won't. Ever hear of the word "density"? It's just amazing how you two can drool and drool and drool on a thread and add absolutely nothing useful. Your moron buddy Meyer offers up a site that he claims has propane prices on line and, of course, it doesn't, and you're spitting up "safety tips" that are of no interest. Yet another thread on rec.boats trashed by the morons. Please refer us to ANY thread you have posted to in the past year in which you added value. T'would be easier for him to refer us to any thread he has not trashed. Pretty funny **** coming from a pair of mooks who fling their trash everywhere here and especially from the meyer****, whose hope beyond hope is that some day I might deign to respond to him directly. What a dickhead. Shame on you. You know damn good and well you're just sitting there, wishin', and hopin', an' thinkin', and prayin' that the boy would respond to you. Well, as he responds to every post I make, whether or not it's to him, I can say his responses are not what he thinks them to be. They remain WATOABH! Catchy phrase. They should write a song. ;-) I'm still trying to figure that one out. I have "What A Total" and maybe "Bone Head" so far. I think he is saying Worthless as tits on a boar hog whatever that means... It is odd, but it would work! |
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Meyer wrote:
On 8/10/2012 11:13 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/10/12 10:52 AM, Califbill wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:07:24 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 8/9/12 9:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:08:04 -0400, X ` Man wrote: It's a bit annoying that the propane dealers around here don't post their prices on their web sites. I don't mind paying the local "convenience" street price for filling up a small tank for an outdoor grill, but I'd sure like to know what the 20 or so "local" delivery suppliers are charging per gallon to fill our 500-gallon tank without having to call each one of them. There should be a "Propane Delivery Price" app! ==== Why not create a web site similar to what cruisers have been doing with diesel fuel prices? https://www.waterwayguide.com/fuel-pricing?area=cbdb That would be an interesting thing to do, but then you'd have to recruit a huge number of "reporters," and a homeowner buying a tankful of propane usually does not happen more than two or three times a year. As an example, we have a gas furnace, hot water heater, rangetop, fireplace, generator, et cetera, and we've never used more than 350 gallons of propane in a calendar year. Typically, the truck comes by for a partial fill-up in October and then another partial fill-up in March so that on those two dates, we actually have about 400 gallons of LP in the tank. Obviously, usage varies according to appliances and geography/weather. Plus, propane prices vary widely from dealer to dealer in the same market, depending upon when they bought their supplies and other factors. I was intrigued by this because a neighbor bought a near tankful of gas for about 25 cent less a gallon than I paid. His supplier was helpful on the phone and told me the wide variance is common among all dealers during the year, that at the next fill-up, his price could be higher than my dealer's, and that prices typically changed weekly. So, what is needed is not reportage of what Joe paid last week in nearby Dunkirk, MD, for example, but what XYZ Propane is charging for delivered LP *today* and what his 10 nearby competitors are charging *today*, so a call can be made and a delivery order placed for the lowest-priced supplier at a given moment. I'm going to contact my local state official to see if there is any interest in requiring propane dealers to post their delivered prices daily on their websites. They all seem to have decent websites. That way, it would be easy to check individually or even write a spider that would gather the prices on a webpage as you described. Before you go thru a rigmarole - the company that owns the tank is the only company that can fill it. Of course, if you personally own the tank and it meets the requirements of the other companies, you can deal with anyone. Otherwise, if you decide to switch companies, be prepared to switch tanks. My daughter is going thru this right now. She'll probably have two tanks at her house while waiting for the current tank to empty. When you stick to decent posts, you shouldn't deserve to be shunned. -------------------------------------------- The company has to pay you for the contents when they remove the tank, according to my buddy who just had his removed at his Tahoe cabin. Was ****ed about the $5/gal delivered price. A company I might have bought a new tank from if I hadn't gotten a good deal buying the old tank from the original gas company would have emptied the original tank, removed it, put it on the curb for the original company, installed a new tank, put my quantity of LP gas back in it, et cetera, all for no more than the purchase price and installation of the new tank. There's no reason to deal with companies unfriendly to consumers or companies that overcharge. I needed a new 15' USB A/B cable so I checked it out at Office Depot. $32.00. Insanity. The same cable through Amazon was $7.00. I would have paid $10 at Office Depot for convenience of "instant" delivery into my hand, but more than four times as much? **** Office Depot. Oh, wait...isn't that a Bain Capital funded company? That explains the overcharging! No, it's a brick and mortar store with more employees to support - the kind that live locally and support your local economy. Since you seem to be a tightwad, you can get your Chinese cables cheap at monoprice.com, A-Hole. You got Krausie pegged. His goal is to eliminate jobs in the USA and blame it on Bush and Romney He'll never admit that as true as it may be. |
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Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
On 8/11/12 10:04 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Meyer wrote: That dongle just adds WiFi to a machine that doesn't have it. This is not a USB repeater that would run a USB mouse 80 feet away. I have no problem cloning the monitor and audio of my media machine all over the house (it is channel 68 on any TV) but no joy on the pointing device. Sounds like you need a wireless usb transmitter and reciever hooked up to a secondary mouse, or a second media machine, or just can the whole idea. That "wireless USB transmitter/receiver" is the problem. I've seen a wireless USB hub at one of the computer box stores. I suppose you plug a dongle into the printer/scanner/whatever USB port and the USB hub sends and receives signals from a WiFi router. You still have the same problem, though...if the scanner is distant from where you are using your computer, you still have to walk over to the scanner to put your documents on the flatbed. The cabinet my wife wants to stash her new scanner in is about 12' from the back of her computer. I measured it. The new cable will work fine, and no one will notice the cable among the several along the baseboard in her home office. Sometimes less complicated is better. You "measure it"? Good for you? Do you have any friends you can invite here, Earl? Please do so. We need more idiots like you crapping here in rec.boats. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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X ` Man wrote:
On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. |
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On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
In article , dump-on-
says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. |
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On Aug 12, 9:54*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks.. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? *That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. Duh! A separate label printer comes in handy if only printing a couple of different labels at a time. |
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On 8/12/12 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. You can be sure I shall give your comments and advice all the consideration I usually do...which is...none at all. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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On 8/12/12 9:00 AM, North Star wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:54 am, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. Duh! A separate label printer comes in handy if only printing a couple of different labels at a time. Or even one label. You can't safely run sheets of the usual laser labels through a laser printer more than once with risking labels coming loose from the sheet and gumming up the printer. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
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Propane or Natural Gas for Small Home Generators
In article , dump-on-
says... On 8/12/12 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. You can be sure I shall give your comments and advice all the consideration I usually do...which is...none at all. Yeah, stupid and ignorant people usually are that way because they don't take "advice", which is learning. |
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On 8/12/12 9:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on- says... On 8/12/12 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. You can be sure I shall give your comments and advice all the consideration I usually do...which is...none at all. Yeah, stupid and ignorant people usually are that way because they don't take "advice", which is learning. I always consider "the source" in advice. You're an asshole, and you've never posted one clever remark here, or, in fact, anything that demonstrates you know anything. And you repeat yourself ad nauseum. Realistically, you are one half step up the evolutionary ladder from your former buddy, PsychoScotty. There is no reason to seriously consider any suggestion you make about anything. When HP used to include extensive user manuals with its laser printers, it specifically warned against feeding through label sheets more than once. I've seen nothing in laser printer technology that would negate that advice. If you do it, you're a dumbass. But, then, we already knew that. In the future, you can save yourself keystrokes by not offering me suggestions or advice because you'll know you are wasting your effort. I don't give a **** what passes for thoughts in your miniscule mind. -- I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country. |
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says... On 8/12/12 9:37 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/12/12 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. You can be sure I shall give your comments and advice all the consideration I usually do...which is...none at all. Yeah, stupid and ignorant people usually are that way because they don't take "advice", which is learning. I always consider "the source" in advice. You're an asshole, and you've never posted one clever remark here, or, in fact, anything that demonstrates you know anything. And you repeat yourself ad nauseum. Really? I know how to print labels without a printer that is dedicated to ONLY labels, and do so daily. Realistically, you are one half step up the evolutionary ladder from your former buddy, PsychoScotty. There is no reason to seriously consider any suggestion you make about anything. You don't know a damned thing about me, all of the above is nothing but bull**** deflection, insults and name calling as usual. When HP used to include extensive user manuals with its laser printers, it specifically warned against feeding through label sheets more than once. I've seen nothing in laser printer technology that would negate that advice. I'm sure you have evidence of that, correct? If you do it, you're a dumbass. But, then, we already knew that. Show me anything that says that it's not a good idea. In the future, you can save yourself keystrokes by not offering me suggestions or advice because you'll know you are wasting your effort. I don't give a **** what passes for thoughts in your miniscule mind. Exactly, that's why you are dumb, you refuse to learn. |
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says... On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:12:48 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:47:05 -0400, wrote: Google up "wireless usb extender". There are a bunch of them available. ... for $350-400 a pop. I am not one of you 1%ers ;-) === I don't recall the words cheap or inexpensive in your requirements document. :-) With 3 CBS walls between my computer and the spot I want the other end, I am far from convinced the thing would work anyway. WiFi doesn't. To make it work I would have to put the transmitter in the attic to get above the walls, running a wire down to the PC and at that point why not just throw the wire over to the end of the house and save $340. I am old school anyway I like wire. === Luddite ! Card carrying member ! My wife is the Wi-Fi person. I have the WiFing set up for her. I set up a structured wiring system in my house 15 years ago and I have CAT 5 and RG-6 coax just about everywhere. Too bad you can't run multi-gigabit on your CAT 5 :) |
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. He could network a wireless scanner/printer but they seem to inhabit two different areas of the house with the need to limit interaction. |
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North Star wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:54 am, iBoaterer wrote: In article , dump-on- says... On 8/11/12 10:09 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 8/11/12 8:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:43:33 -0400, BAR wrote: Sometimes less complicated is better. I have seen them but it is a router sized box on both ends and they are $350-400 a pair. I will go with the $10 powered cable, thanks. With my experience with wireless in a CBS house, I am not even sure it would work for me out in the pool bar. My plan is the powered cable with a blue tooth transmitter on the end and a blue tooth wireless pointing device/numeric pad. That is 30' line of sight that will work from the corner of the house. Another powered cable and a B/T transmitter at the other end of the house should take care of those rooms. I don't have any block walls between them. You can daisy change wireless access points. The powered cables can be daisy chained (up to 5) Such complexity. I prefer the hard-wired approach, with wi fi as an option. No line of sight problems, no expensive wireless USB silliness. I can reach the four printers and two scanners in the house via my iMac, iPhone and iPad, and my wife can do the same with her Windoze. Who needs four printers and two scanners in one house? That's insane and probably BS. We don't use our computer gear to play Pong, the way you do, Earl. Further, not everyone needs more guns than computer peripherals. My wife has a printer and scanner in her home office. I have a laser printer, a photo printer, and a label printer in my home office, and a scanner. That would be four printers and two scanners. She has a Windows computer, I have an apple computer. We have smart phones and I also have an iPad. I also have at least a half dozen keyboards for my apple computer. i have no idea why. Get some smarts, Earl. Any smarts. You're really truly stupid. If YOU were to "get some smarts" you'd realize that you don't need a separate printer to print labels. Duh! A separate label printer comes in handy if only printing a couple of different labels at a time. You're right! Let's all go out and buy one so we can hardly use it! |
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