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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article ,
says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article ,
says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Did his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified of the tragedy? |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article ,
says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:42:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. That is direct testimony about what Zimmerman saw himself What Martin may or may not have said in the phone call from the girlfriend is hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. ... and Zimmerman had the right to verify that. And Martin had the right to refuse giving an UNIDENTIFIED person any information. No one, including Zimmerman has ever said that he identified himself as a neighborhood watch vigilante. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article om,
says... On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Yes. His father's fiancée. Did his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified of the tragedy? Yes. Immediately. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article om,
says... On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Did his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified of the tragedy? Already answered. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Yes. His father's fiancée. Did his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified of the tragedy? Yes. Immediately. Guess again sport. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article m,
says... On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Yes. His father's fiancée. Did his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified of the tragedy? Yes. Immediately. Guess again sport. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Oops! The father wasn't concerned about his under-age son's whereabouts until the next morning. Martin mush have had a history of staying out all night without his parents knowledge. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article m,
says... On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Yes. His father's fiancée. Did his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified of the tragedy? Yes. Immediately. Guess again sport. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article ,
says... In article m, says... On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws Benefit Those with Arrest Records The 119 people known to have killed and claimed "stand your ground" were arrested a combined 327 times prior to the incident for major crimes, including assault, battery, theft and probation violation. A third had four or more major arrests, and a quarter had 1-3 major arrests. http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed neighborhoods" you would be defending them. You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your ground killers. You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a doubt. Which is it? Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even had the power to ask martin why he was there. You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Yes. His father's fiancée. Did his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified of the tragedy? Yes. Immediately. Guess again sport. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Oops! The father wasn't concerned about his under-age son's whereabouts until the next morning. Martin mush have had a history of staying out all night without his parents knowledge. Hearsay and speculation. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/12 8:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:07:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:42:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. That is direct testimony about what Zimmerman saw himself What Martin may or may not have said in the phone call from the girlfriend is hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. ... and Zimmerman had the right to verify that. And Martin had the right to refuse giving an UNIDENTIFIED person any information. No one, including Zimmerman has ever said that he identified himself as a neighborhood watch vigilante. The conversation never got that far, Martin broke Zimmerman's nose first Cite? Fretwell is going to emerge as "The Secret Witness." |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article .com>, says... > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article b.com>, > > says... > >> > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > >>> In article > , > >>> says... > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article > , > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > >>>>>>>>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The 119 people known to have killed and > >>>>>>>>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > >>>>>>>>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > >>>>>>>>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > >>>>>>>>> theft and probation violation. A third had > >>>>>>>>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > >>>>>>>>> had 1-3 major arrests. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > >>>>>>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > >>>>>>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > >>>>>>> ground killers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > >>>>>> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > >>>>>> doubt. Which is it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > >>>> > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > >>>> > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > >>>> YOUR car? > >>> > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > >>> > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > >> Did > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > >> of the tragedy? > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > Guess again sport. > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! Hearsay and speculation. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article ,
says... On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article .com>, says... > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article b.com>, > > says... > >> > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > >>> In article > , > >>> says... > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article > , > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > >>>>>>>>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The 119 people known to have killed and > >>>>>>>>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > >>>>>>>>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > >>>>>>>>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > >>>>>>>>> theft and probation violation. A third had > >>>>>>>>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > >>>>>>>>> had 1-3 major arrests. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > >>>>>>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > >>>>>>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > >>>>>>> ground killers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > >>>>>> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > >>>>>> doubt. Which is it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > >>>> > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > >>>> > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > >>>> YOUR car? > >>> > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > >>> > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > >> Did > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > >> of the tragedy? > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > Guess again sport. > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! Hearsay and speculation. Uh, no..... http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...mission-votes- no-confidence.html |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/2012 8:56 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article .com>, says... > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article b.com>, > > says... > >> > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > >>> In article > , > >>> says... > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article > , > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > >>>>>>>>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The 119 people known to have killed and > >>>>>>>>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > >>>>>>>>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > >>>>>>>>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > >>>>>>>>> theft and probation violation. A third had > >>>>>>>>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > >>>>>>>>> had 1-3 major arrests. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > >>>>>>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > >>>>>>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > >>>>>>> ground killers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > >>>>>> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > >>>>>> doubt. Which is it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > >>>> > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > >>>> > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > >>>> YOUR car? > >>> > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > >>> > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > >> Did > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > >> of the tragedy? > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > Guess again sport. > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! Hearsay and speculation. And a teensy bit of bat**** crazy for good measure. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article om,
says... On 7/24/2012 8:56 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article .com>, says... > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article b.com>, > > says... > >> > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > >>> In article > , > >>> says... > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article > , > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > >>>>>>>>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The 119 people known to have killed and > >>>>>>>>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > >>>>>>>>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > >>>>>>>>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > >>>>>>>>> theft and probation violation. A third had > >>>>>>>>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > >>>>>>>>> had 1-3 major arrests. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > >>>>>>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > >>>>>>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > >>>>>>> ground killers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > >>>>>> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > >>>>>> doubt. Which is it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > >>>> > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > >>>> > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > >>>> YOUR car? > >>> > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > >>> > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > >> Did > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > >> of the tragedy? > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > Guess again sport. > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! Hearsay and speculation. And a teensy bit of bat**** crazy for good measure. Oh, really? How? |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/2012 10:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om, says... On 7/24/2012 8:56 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article .com>, says... > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article b.com>, > > says... > >> > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > >>> In article > , > >>> says... > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article > , > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > >>>>>>>>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The 119 people known to have killed and > >>>>>>>>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > >>>>>>>>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > >>>>>>>>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > >>>>>>>>> theft and probation violation. A third had > >>>>>>>>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > >>>>>>>>> had 1-3 major arrests. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > >>>>>>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > >>>>>>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > >>>>>>> ground killers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > >>>>>> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > >>>>>> doubt. Which is it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > >>>> > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > >>>> > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > >>>> YOUR car? > >>> > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > >>> > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > >> Did > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > >> of the tragedy? > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > Guess again sport. > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! Hearsay and speculation. And a teensy bit of bat**** crazy for good measure. Oh, really? How? I don't know how really. Maybe you were dropped on your head when you were a child. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/12 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:22:58 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/24/12 8:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:07:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:42:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. That is direct testimony about what Zimmerman saw himself What Martin may or may not have said in the phone call from the girlfriend is hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. ... and Zimmerman had the right to verify that. And Martin had the right to refuse giving an UNIDENTIFIED person any information. No one, including Zimmerman has ever said that he identified himself as a neighborhood watch vigilante. The conversation never got that far, Martin broke Zimmerman's nose first Cite? Fretwell is going to emerge as "The Secret Witness." I am just going to wait for the justice system to decide. You are one of the guys here who have convicted Zimmerman without due process. I haven't convicted him of anything. For any number of reasons, I do hope he is convicted of something, and I wouldn't mind seeing that homeowners assn and the individual members of it lose big in a civil suit. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:06:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article >, says... > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article aweb.com>, > > says... > > > > > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > In article raweb.com>, > > > > says... > > > >> > > > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > >>> In article >, > > > >>> says... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> In article >, > > > >>>>> says... > > > >>>>>&gt ; > > > >>>>>&gt ; On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > > > >>>>>&gt ; > wrote: > > > >>>>>&gt ; > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > wrote: > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> The 119 people known to have killed and > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> theft and probation violation. A third had > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> had 1-3 major arrests. > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; ground killers. > > > >>>>>&gt ; > > > >>>>>&gt ; You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > > > >>>>>&gt ; license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > > > >>>>>&gt ; doubt.. Which is it? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > > > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > > > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > > > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > > > >>>> YOUR car? > > > >>> > > > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay.. > > > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > > > >>> > > > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > > > > > >> Did > > > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > > > >> of the tragedy? > > > > > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > Guess again sport. > > > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite > > > > Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning > > things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! > > Hearsay and speculation. Uh, no..... http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...mission-votes- no-confidence.html That story is full of hearsay and speculation. The father said this, an "expert" says that. You do understand what hearsay and speculation are, right? Just because someone says something, and someone else edits and prints it, that doesn't make it true. Until a full investigation happens and there is a finding, based on discovered facts, that there was some sort of "planning" done by the police to taint the case, it's just bat**** crazy for you to state as fact that's what happened. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article om,
says... On 7/24/2012 10:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 7/24/2012 8:56 AM, wrote: On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article .com>, says... > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article b.com>, > > says... > >> > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > >>> In article > , > >>> says... > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> In article > , > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > >>>>>>>>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The 119 people known to have killed and > >>>>>>>>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > >>>>>>>>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > >>>>>>>>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > >>>>>>>>> theft and probation violation. A third had > >>>>>>>>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > >>>>>>>>> had 1-3 major arrests. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > >>>>>>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > >>>>>>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > >>>>>>> ground killers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > >>>>>> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > >>>>>> doubt. Which is it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > >>>> > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > >>>> > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > >>>> YOUR car? > >>> > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > >>> > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > >> Did > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > >> of the tragedy? > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > Guess again sport. > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! Hearsay and speculation. And a teensy bit of bat**** crazy for good measure. Oh, really? How? I don't know how really. Maybe you were dropped on your head when you were a child. Just as I thought, no rational thought. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article ,
says... On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:06:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article >, says... > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article aweb.com>, > > says... > > > > > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > In article raweb.com>, > > > > says... > > > >> > > > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > >>> In article >, > > > >>> says... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> In article >, > > > >>>>> says... > > > >>>>>&gt ; > > > >>>>>&gt ; On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > > > >>>>>&gt ; > wrote: > > > >>>>>&gt ; > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > wrote: > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> Benefit Those with Arrest Records > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> The 119 people known to have killed and > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> a combined 327 times prior to the incident > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> for major crimes, including assault, battery, > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> theft and probation violation. A third had > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> four or more major arrests, and a quarter > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> had 1-3 major arrests. > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt;> > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > > > >>>>>>&a mp;gt; ground killers. > > > >>>>>&gt ; > > > >>>>>&gt ; You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > > > >>>>>&gt ; license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > > > >>>>>&gt ; doubt. Which is it? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > > > >>>> there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > > > >>>> had the power to ask martin why he was there. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > > > >>>> property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > > > >>>> YOUR car? > > > >>> > > > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > > > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > > > >>> > > > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > > > > > Yes. His father's fiancée. > > > > > > > >> Did > > > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > > > >> of the tragedy? > > > > > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > Guess again sport. > > > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite > > > > Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning > > things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! > > Hearsay and speculation. Uh, no..... http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...mission-votes- no-confidence.html That story is full of hearsay and speculation. The father said this, an "expert" says that. You do understand what hearsay and speculation are, right? Just because someone says something, and someone else edits and prints it, that doesn't make it true. Oh, but you FOXites are believing everything Zimmerman, a KNOWN liar, says. bat**** crazy for you to state as fact that's what happened. And it's equally crazy for the FOXites to do the same. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article ,
says... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:22:58 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/24/12 8:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:07:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:42:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into YOUR car? Looking into cars.... hearsay. That is direct testimony about what Zimmerman saw himself What Martin may or may not have said in the phone call from the girlfriend is hearsay. Martin was legally on that private property. ... and Zimmerman had the right to verify that. And Martin had the right to refuse giving an UNIDENTIFIED person any information. No one, including Zimmerman has ever said that he identified himself as a neighborhood watch vigilante. The conversation never got that far, Martin broke Zimmerman's nose first Cite? Fretwell is going to emerge as "The Secret Witness." I am just going to wait for the justice system to decide. You are one of the guys here who have convicted Zimmerman without due process. I personally have never said Zimmerman is guilty. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:47:05 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article >, says... > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:06:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article >, > > says... > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > In article <500dbe87$0$1182$c3e8da3$eb767761@news. astraweb.com>, > > > > says... > > > > > > > > > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > > > In article <500da0d9$0$50987$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news .astraweb.com>, > > > > > > says... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > > >>> In article <avuq08dlpn15igpv9u8f32r8cf0oqi7j7c@4ax .com>, > > > > > >>> says... > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; In article <o4np08d27rvlvu7nnk55gvem9rbskgfi0v@4ax .com>, > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; says... > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; Benefit Those with Arrest Records > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; The 119 people known to have killed and > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; a combined 327 times prior to the incident > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; for major crimes, including assault, battery, > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; theft and probation violation. A third had > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; four or more major arrests, and a quarter > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; had 1-3 major arrests. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> more often.. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> ground killers. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> doubt. Which is it? > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > > > > > >>>&gt ; there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > > > > > >>>&gt ; had the power to ask martin why he was there. > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > > > > > >>>&gt ; property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > > > > > >>>&gt ; YOUR car? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > > > > > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. His father's fiancï¿œe. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Did > > > > > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > > > > > >> of the tragedy? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guess again sport. > > > > > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite > > > > > > > > Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning > > > > things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! > > > > > > Hearsay and speculation. > > > > Uh, no..... > > > > http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...mission-votes- > > no-confidence.html > > That story is full of hearsay and speculation. The father said this, an "expert" says that. You do understand what hearsay and speculation are, right? > > Just because someone says something, and someone else edits and prints it, that doesn't make it true. Oh, but you FOXites are believing everything Zimmerman, a KNOWN liar, says. I have never stated I believe everything he says, and I don't watch FOX, idiot. > > bat**** crazy for you to state as fact that's what happened. And it's equally crazy for the FOXites to do the same. So you lump yourself in with them, eh? Well, you *have* defined yourself. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/2012 1:48 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:47:05 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article >, says... > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:06:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article >, > > says... > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > In article <500dbe87$0$1182$c3e8da3$eb767761@news. astraweb.com>, > > > > says... > > > > > > > > > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > > > In article <500da0d9$0$50987$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news .astraweb.com>, > > > > > > says... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > > >>> In article <avuq08dlpn15igpv9u8f32r8cf0oqi7j7c@4ax .com>, > > > > > >>> says... > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; In article <o4np08d27rvlvu7nnk55gvem9rbskgfi0v@4ax .com>, > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; says... > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; Benefit Those with Arrest Records > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; The 119 people known to have killed and > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; a combined 327 times prior to the incident > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; for major crimes, including assault, battery, > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; theft and probation violation. A third had > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; four or more major arrests, and a quarter > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; had 1-3 major arrests. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> ground killers. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> doubt. Which is it? > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > > > > > >>>&gt ; there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > > > > > >>>&gt ; had the power to ask martin why he was there. > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > > > > > >>>&gt ; property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > > > > > >>>&gt ; YOUR car? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > > > > > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. His father's fiancï¿œe. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Did > > > > > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > > > > > >> of the tragedy? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guess again sport. > > > > > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite > > > > > > > > Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning > > > > things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! > > > > > > Hearsay and speculation. > > > > Uh, no..... > > > > http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...mission-votes- > > no-confidence.html > > That story is full of hearsay and speculation. The father said this, an "expert" says that. You do understand what hearsay and speculation are, right? > > Just because someone says something, and someone else edits and prints it, that doesn't make it true. Oh, but you FOXites are believing everything Zimmerman, a KNOWN liar, says. I have never stated I believe everything he says, and I don't watch FOX, idiot. > > bat**** crazy for you to state as fact that's what happened. And it's equally crazy for the FOXites to do the same. So you lump yourself in with them, eh? Well, you *have* defined yourself. What's funny is to hear Kevin and harry call someone liars:) LOL! |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/12 3:04 PM, JustWait wrote:
What's funny is to hear Kevin and harry call someone liars:) LOL! What's funny is to read the psychotic ravings of a lunatic like you without any danger of being too close physically. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
In article , says...
On 7/24/2012 1:48 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:47:05 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article >, says... > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:06:00 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > In article >, > > says... > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:15:48 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > In article <500dbe87$0$1182$c3e8da3$eb767761@news. astraweb.com>, > > > > says... > > > > > > > > > > On 7/23/2012 3:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > > > In article <500da0d9$0$50987$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news .astraweb.com>, > > > > > > says... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: > > > > > >>> In article <avuq08dlpn15igpv9u8f32r8cf0oqi7j7c@4ax .com>, > > > > > >>> says... > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer > wrote: > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; In article <o4np08d27rvlvu7nnk55gvem9rbskgfi0v@4ax .com>, > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; says... > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; Benefit Those with Arrest Records > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; The 119 people known to have killed and > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; claimed "stand your ground" were arrested > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; a combined 327 times prior to the incident > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; for major crimes, including assault, battery, > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; theft and probation violation. A third had > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; four or more major arrests, and a quarter > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; had 1-3 major arrests. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>>& ;amp;gt; http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> neighborhoods" you would be defending them. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;>> ground killers. > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt;> doubt. Which is it? > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; > > > > > >>>>&a mp;amp;gt; Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case. > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be > > > > > >>>&gt ; there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even > > > > > >>>&gt ; had the power to ask martin why he was there. > > > > > >>>&gt ; > > > > > >>>&gt ; You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private > > > > > >>>&gt ; property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into > > > > > >>>&gt ; YOUR car? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Looking into cars.... hearsay. > > > > > >>> Martin was legally on that private property. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. His father's fianc�e. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Did > > > > > >> his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified > > > > > >> of the tragedy? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guess again sport. > > > > > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...t-his-son?lite > > > > > > > > Well, that's just more fuel for the fire that the cops were planning > > > > things to see how they can get Zimmerman out of this mess. Thanks! > > > > > > Hearsay and speculation. > > > > Uh, no..... > > > > http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...mission-votes- > > no-confidence.html > > That story is full of hearsay and speculation. The father said this, an "expert" says that. You do understand what hearsay and speculation are, right? > > Just because someone says something, and someone else edits and prints it, that doesn't make it true. Oh, but you FOXites are believing everything Zimmerman, a KNOWN liar, says. I have never stated I believe everything he says, and I don't watch FOX, idiot. > > bat**** crazy for you to state as fact that's what happened. And it's equally crazy for the FOXites to do the same. So you lump yourself in with them, eh? Well, you *have* defined yourself. What's funny is to hear Kevin and harry call someone liars:) LOL! You ARE a liar, as well as Zimmerman. Now show me ONE LIE from me..... I realize you won't answer because you are bat**** insane. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:34:54 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article >, says... What's funny is to hear Kevin and harry call someone liars:) LOL! You ARE a liar, as well as Zimmerman. Now show me ONE LIE from me..... I realize you won't answer because you are bat**** insane. OK, I will show you one. You wrote "Zimmerman's statements are hearsay, that's what threepontoons just said!" That is a LIE. I never wrote or said that. I know better, I understand what hearsay is. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/12 4:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:49:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:47:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Physical evidence and Zimmerman's statement that they can't disprove. Zimmerman's statements are hearsay, that's what threepontoons just said! Besides that, he is a KNOWN liar. Hearsay is repeating something someone heard. Zimmerman's statement is direct testimony about what happened. Being the defendant, it is the state's burden to prove it is not true. And they will. I thought you just said you have not convicted him yet. The physical evidence supports the story. That is why Corey is advancing the theory that Zimmerman is guilty of the thought crime she is charging. (he left his truck with a depraved mind) You've not seen all of the physical evidence yet. No one has. We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey probably gets disbarred. Florida is not a sunshine state. You have a felon in the governor's mansion. |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:51:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/24/12 4:50 PM, wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:49:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey probably gets disbarred. Florida is not a sunshine state. You have a felon in the governor's mansion. What does that have to do with sunshine? We all know about it. Maryland has had more than it's share of corrupt leaders too. Agnew ran on a reform ticket, replacing a Baltimore crook who was worse than him. Agnew was a piker compared to Scott. -- Romneyism - The "Bain" of Our Existence |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
On 7/24/2012 8:25 PM, x'man wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:51:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/24/12 4:50 PM, wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:49:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey probably gets disbarred. Florida is not a sunshine state. You have a felon in the governor's mansion. What does that have to do with sunshine? We all know about it. Maryland has had more than it's share of corrupt leaders too. Agnew ran on a reform ticket, replacing a Baltimore crook who was worse than him. Agnew was a piker compared to Scott. Well of course in the sick mind of a pundit... Anyway, what is this, "device" number 6 this week. Well, plonk again asshat... |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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says... On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:51:40 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 7/24/12 4:50 PM, wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:49:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: We have seen most, if not all of it. Florida is a sunshine state and when it was "discovered" by the defense, it was public information. If the prosecution is withholding evidence, Zimmerman walks and Corey probably gets disbarred. Florida is not a sunshine state. You have a felon in the governor's mansion. What does that have to do with sunshine? We all know about it. Maryland has had more than it's share of corrupt leaders too. Agnew ran on a reform ticket, replacing a Baltimore crook who was worse than him. http://www.gazette.net/article/20111.../1033/venture- capital-pool-drying-up-for-entrepreneurs&template=gazette |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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says... On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:34:54 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article >, says... What's funny is to hear Kevin and harry call someone liars:) LOL! You ARE a liar, as well as Zimmerman. Now show me ONE LIE from me..... I realize you won't answer because you are bat**** insane. OK, I will show you one. You wrote "Zimmerman's statements are hearsay, that's what threepontoons just said!" That is a LIE. I never wrote or said that. I know better, I understand what hearsay is. You said that a person's statements are hearsay. Isn't Zimmerman a person? |
Florida's Stand Your Ground Law Protects Mostly Criminals
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