Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.

Bull****. A criminal is a criminal. Did you even read the article?

On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.


You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your
ground killers.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.


You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your
ground killers.

You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a
license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a
doubt. Which is it?

Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case.

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says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.


You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your
ground killers.

You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a
license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a
doubt. Which is it?

Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case.

Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be
there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even
had the power to ask martin why he was there.

You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private
property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into
YOUR car?

Looking into cars.... hearsay.
Martin was legally on that private property.

On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.


You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your
ground killers.

You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a
license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a
doubt. Which is it?

Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case.

Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be
there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even
had the power to ask martin why he was there.

You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private
property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into
YOUR car?

Looking into cars.... hearsay.
Martin was legally on that private property.

Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Did
his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified
of the tragedy?

In article om,
says...

On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.


You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your
ground killers.

You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a
license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a
doubt. Which is it?

Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case.

Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be
there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even
had the power to ask martin why he was there.

You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private
property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into
YOUR car?

Looking into cars.... hearsay.
Martin was legally on that private property.

Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom?

Yes. His father's fiancée.

Did
his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified
of the tragedy?

Yes. Immediately.

In article om,
says...

On 7/23/2012 12:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.


You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your
ground killers.

You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a
license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a
doubt. Which is it?

Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case.

Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be
there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even
had the power to ask martin why he was there.

You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private
property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into
YOUR car?

Looking into cars.... hearsay.
Martin was legally on that private property.

Are you sure about that? Was he invited on the property? By whom? Did
his father even know he was there? When was his father finally notified
of the tragedy?

Already answered.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:42:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 08:10:37 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:16:40 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 7/22/12 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 07:54:19 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws
Benefit Those with Arrest Records

The 119 people known to have killed and
claimed "stand your ground" were arrested
a combined 327 times prior to the incident
for major crimes, including assault, battery,
theft and probation violation. A third had
four or more major arrests, and a quarter
had 1-3 major arrests.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...cle1241378.ece

I imagine they are more likely to be in places where they get attacked
more often. If we said they were "poor people living in depressed
neighborhoods" you would be defending them.


You're incredible. No matter what, you're defending the stand your
ground killers.

You folks really have to get your story right. First you say SYG is a
license to kill and then you say Zimmerman will be convicted without a
doubt. Which is it?

Both, the stand your ground law has no bearing on this case.

Why not? Are you saying Zimmerman did not have a legal right to be
there or even to follow martin? As a defacto agent of the HOA he even
had the power to ask martin why he was there.

You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private
property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into
YOUR car?

Looking into cars.... hearsay.

That is direct testimony about what Zimmerman saw himself
What Martin may or may not have said in the phone call from the
girlfriend is hearsay.

Martin was legally on that private property.

... and Zimmerman had the right to verify that.

And Martin had the right to refuse giving an UNIDENTIFIED person any
information. No one, including Zimmerman has ever said that he
identified himself as a neighborhood watch vigilante.

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says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:07:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:42:19 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


You keep forgetting this was a stranger behind gates on private
property. Can you ask a guy in your driveway why he is looking into
YOUR car?

Looking into cars.... hearsay.

That is direct testimony about what Zimmerman saw himself
What Martin may or may not have said in the phone call from the
girlfriend is hearsay.

Martin was legally on that private property.

... and Zimmerman had the right to verify that.

And Martin had the right to refuse giving an UNIDENTIFIED person any
information. No one, including Zimmerman has ever said that he
identified himself as a neighborhood watch vigilante.

The conversation never got that far, Martin broke Zimmerman's nose
first

Cite?