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On 7/14/2012 12:28 PM, Califbill wrote:
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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money
at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric
car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars.
Not one where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.


The fact is, the money was passed to those who could effect elections
with donations or influence, not those who might really get electric to
the middle class... Just look at the math, it doesn't lie.

The math sure doesn't lie, just look at what Romney's super pacs are
contributing!

On Jul 14, 11:28*am, "Califbill" wrote:
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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money at
a car only the rich can afford? *If you want to crank up the electric car
market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. *Not one
where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

The ZAP reminds me of a Cushman ice cream trike with a car body on it.

http://s1.aecdn.com/images/news/zap-...ed-45891_1.jpg

http://microcarmuseum.com/tour/messerschmittkr201.html

On Jul 14, 10:13*am, iBoaterer wrote:
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I can't understand why you'd come up with some type of lousy header
like "Nope, the right wing says this won't work." But ok I'll go along
with it.

i dont' know of anyone who is against owning the best bang for the
buck, but the car is average pricing of $70,000.00. I'm actually all
for technological break through's and advancements, however where is
the economical stance? Where are the recharge stations?

My Lincoln Town Car gets 23-25 mpg on the road and is paid for. I can
buy a whole lot of gasoline for $70,000 with little inconvenience.

You won't find that with an electric.

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On Jul 14, 10:13*am, iBoaterer wrote:
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I can't understand why you'd come up with some type of lousy header
like "Nope, the right wing says this won't work." But ok I'll go along
with it.

i dont' know of anyone who is against owning the best bang for the
buck, but the car is average pricing of $70,000.00. I'm actually all
for technological break through's and advancements, however where is
the economical stance? Where are the recharge stations?

My Lincoln Town Car gets 23-25 mpg on the road and is paid for. I can
buy a whole lot of gasoline for $70,000 with little inconvenience.

You won't find that with an electric.

The economy doesn't come until advancement of said technology. The model
T is a very crude car, but it would cost $14,000 in today's money.
That's how technology works, expensive to start with, but the price
curve goes rapidly down. That's why I think NASA is a worthwhile program
despite it's cost.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


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"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

On 7/14/2012 10:35 PM, BAR wrote:
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Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

Are you kidding? A $100,000.00 paperweight.
Plug it in plug it in. But where? In all my travels, I've seen but one
electric car chargeing station.

If the Navy can launch ships that never need refueling. Why can't the
union wizards at Government Motors do the same with their cars?

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On 7/14/2012 10:35 PM, BAR wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

Are you kidding? A $100,000.00 paperweight.
Plug it in plug it in. But where? In all my travels, I've seen but one
electric car chargeing station.

If the Navy can launch ships that never need refueling. Why can't the
union wizards at Government Motors do the same with their cars?

Where do you charge your "two electric cars" then?

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


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"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

And no gasoline cars have problems right? You do realize don't you, that
this is new technology, R&D is ongoing.

On 7/15/2012 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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In article ,
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php



"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

And no gasoline cars have problems right? You do realize don't you, that
this is new technology, R&D is ongoing.

What sort of new technology have you invested in?