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North Star July 7th 12 09:05 PM

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On Jul 7, 3:43*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
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On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:


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On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:


"thumper" *wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? *If you are wealthy you always
have alternatives.


-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. *Way over budget, 40 cents on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?


status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?


How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results at less
cost? *Are they smarter than us? *Have more integrity?


http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html


--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? *Long waits for less than critical care? *Lack of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? *I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. *took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery. *How
long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. *and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then in the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand. *Is that
included in your healthcare costs? *I spent a couple days in the trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. *Highland Hospital,
Oakland, CA. *A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn
meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! *Where do you a poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks your
beer. *I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably equal to
2
months of anything I consume. *Just about every post you follow up Harry's
post with a suckup comment. *You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. * SNERK!
------------------------------
Snerk my ass. *You are pretty dam stupid, and your posts show it.


Still smarting from the truth, Swill?

Califbill July 7th 12 09:40 PM

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"North Star" wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 3:43 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

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On Jul 7, 3:02 am, "Califbill" wrote:





"North Star" wrote in message


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On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:


"thumper" wrote in ...


On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:


"thumper" wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? If you are wealthy you
always
have alternatives.


-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. Way over budget, 40 cents
on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?


status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?


How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results at
less
cost? Are they smarter than us? Have more integrity?


http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html


--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? Long waits for less than critical care? Lack of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery. How
long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then in
the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand. Is
that
included in your healthcare costs? I spent a couple days in the
trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. Highland Hospital,
Oakland, CA. A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn
meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! Where do you a poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house
that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks your
beer. I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably equal
to
2
months of anything I consume. Just about every post you follow up
Harry's
post with a suckup comment. You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. SNERK!
------------------------------
Snerk my ass. You are pretty dam stupid, and your posts show it.


Still smarting from the truth, Swill?
--------------------------------------
WTF! You are digging your stupidity hole even deeper.


Meyer[_2_] July 7th 12 09:44 PM

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On 7/7/2012 4:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 3:43 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jul 7, 3:02 am, "Califbill" wrote:





"North Star" wrote in message


...


On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:


"thumper" wrote in ...


On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:


"thumper" wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? If you are wealthy you
always
have alternatives.


-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. Way over budget, 40

cents on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?


status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?


How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results

at less
cost? Are they smarter than us? Have more integrity?


http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html


--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? Long waits for less than critical care?

Lack of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery. How
long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then

in the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand.

Is that
included in your healthcare costs? I spent a couple days in the
trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. Highland

Hospital,
Oakland, CA. A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn

meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! Where do you a

poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house
that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks your
beer. I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably

equal to
2
months of anything I consume. Just about every post you follow up

Harry's
post with a suckup comment. You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. SNERK!
------------------------------
Snerk my ass. You are pretty dam stupid, and your posts show it.


Still smarting from the truth, Swill?
--------------------------------------
WTF! You are digging your stupidity hole even deeper.

His stupidity hole is a bottomless pit. There are no limits.


iBoaterer[_2_] July 7th 12 10:45 PM

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In article ,
says...

"North Star" wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 3:02 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:









"thumper" wrote in ...


On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:


"thumper" wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? If you are wealthy you always
have alternatives.


-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. Way over budget, 40 cents on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?


status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?


How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results at less
cost? Are they smarter than us? Have more integrity?


http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html

--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? Long waits for less than critical care? Lack of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery. How
long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then in the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand. Is that
included in your healthcare costs? I spent a couple days in the trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. Highland Hospital,
Oakland, CA. A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn
meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! Where do you a poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks your
beer. I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably equal to
2
months of anything I consume. Just about every post you follow up Harry's
post with a suckup comment. You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. SNERK!
------------------------------
Snerk my ass. You are pretty dam stupid, and your posts show it.


Bingo! He's just plain dumb.

JustWait[_2_] July 8th 12 01:05 PM

Affordable Care Act...
 
On 7/7/2012 2:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/7/12 7:44 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 7, 3:02 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:









"thumper" wrote in ...

On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:

"thumper" wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? If you are wealthy you always
have alternatives.

-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. Way over budget, 40 cents on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?

status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?

How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results at
less
cost? Are they smarter than us? Have more integrity?

http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html

--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? Long waits for less than critical care? Lack of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery.
How long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then in the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand. Is
that
included in your healthcare costs? I spent a couple days in the trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. Highland Hospital,
Oakland, CA. A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn
meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! Where do you a poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house
that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks your
beer. I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably
equal to 2
months of anything I consume. Just about every post you follow up
Harry's
post with a suckup comment. You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. SNERK!



Wow. Bilious Bill is "going Ingersoll"! Next, he'll sic his motorscooter
buddies on you.
-------------------------------------------------
Nope, just stating facts.


it blows me away how jealous they both are of me and my family...


X ` Man[_3_] July 8th 12 01:16 PM

Affordable Care Act...
 
On 7/8/12 8:05 AM, JustWait wrote:


it blows me away how jealous they both are of me and my family...



Uh, who is jealous of you and your family, and *why*, pray tell, would
*anyone* be jealous of you and your family. It's not as if you are a
family of accomplished individuals. And you...you're an absolute zero in
more ways than can be listed.

Delusional...you're the very definition of it.




thumper July 8th 12 06:53 PM

Affordable Care Act...
 
On 7/7/2012 5:55 AM, Oscar wrote:

Making the longevity stastics look good has nothing to do with Quality
of life.


Obfuscating metrics does not make our health care system look better.



Califbill July 8th 12 08:46 PM

Affordable Care Act...
 
"JustWait" wrote in message ...

On 7/7/2012 2:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 7/7/12 7:44 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 7, 3:02 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:









"thumper" wrote in ...

On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:

"thumper" wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? If you are wealthy you always
have alternatives.

-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. Way over budget, 40 cents on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?

status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?

How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results at
less
cost? Are they smarter than us? Have more integrity?

http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html

--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? Long waits for less than critical care? Lack of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery.
How long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then in the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand. Is
that
included in your healthcare costs? I spent a couple days in the trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. Highland Hospital,
Oakland, CA. A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn
meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! Where do you a poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house
that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks your
beer. I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably
equal to 2
months of anything I consume. Just about every post you follow up
Harry's
post with a suckup comment. You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. SNERK!



Wow. Bilious Bill is "going Ingersoll"! Next, he'll sic his motorscooter
buddies on you.
-------------------------------------------------
Nope, just stating facts.


it blows me away how jealous they both are of me and my family...
---------------------------------------
I do not think they are jealous. They have no reason to be. fine that your
daughter likes racing, so did I and still do. But I would rather see put at
least 1/2 the energy and passion you put in to the daughters racing, in to
creating a prosperous life for the family.


North Star July 8th 12 09:01 PM

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On Jul 8, 4:46*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"JustWait" *wrote in ...

On 7/7/2012 2:44 PM, Califbill wrote:









"X ` Man" *wrote in message
om...


On 7/7/12 7:44 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 7, 3:02 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message


....


On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:


"thumper" *wrote in ...


On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:


"thumper" *wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? *If you are wealthy you always
have alternatives.


-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. *Way over budget, 40 cents on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?


status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?


How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results at
less
cost? *Are they smarter than us? *Have more integrity?


http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html


--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? *Long waits for less than critical care? *Lack of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? *I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. *took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery.
How long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. *and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then in the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand. *Is
that
included in your healthcare costs? *I spent a couple days in the trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. *Highland Hospital,
Oakland, CA. *A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn
meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! *Where do you a poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house
that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks your
beer. *I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably
equal to 2
months of anything I consume. *Just about every post you follow up
Harry's
post with a suckup comment. *You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. * SNERK!


Wow. Bilious Bill is "going Ingersoll"! Next, he'll sic his motorscooter
buddies on you.
-------------------------------------------------
Nope, just stating facts.


it blows me away how jealous they both are of me and my family...
---------------------------------------
I do not think they are jealous. *They have no reason to be. *fine that your
daughter likes racing, so did I and still do. *But I would rather see put at
least 1/2 the energy and passion you put in to the daughters racing, in to
creating a prosperous life for the family.


Wow...we actually agree on something.
No one is jealous of Snotty, he just irritates us with his lies and
bad attitude.

Califbill July 8th 12 11:51 PM

Affordable Care Act...
 
"North Star" wrote in message
...

On Jul 8, 4:46 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in ...

On 7/7/2012 2:44 PM, Califbill wrote:









"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...


On 7/7/12 7:44 AM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 7, 3:02 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message


...


On Jul 6, 11:04 am, "Califbill" wrote:


"thumper" wrote in ...


On 7/5/2012 8:10 PM, Califbill wrote:


"thumper" wrote in ...
So you were happy with the status quo? If you are wealthy you
always
have alternatives.


-----------------------------------------------------
Look at the rest of government programs. Way over budget, 40 cents
on
the dollar being barrowed and you think government run health care
system will be an improvement?


status quo may be screwed, but why screw it up, most likely, even
more?


How do you explain numerous other nations getting better results at
less
cost? Are they smarter than us? Have more integrity?


http://blogs.ngm.com/blog_central/20...t-of-care.html


--------------------------------------------------------------
What better results? Long waits for less than critical care? Lack
of
doctors as they are leaving to get better pay? I tore my meniscus a
couple
years ago. took about a week to get the MRI, and in to surgery.
How long
would that take in most of those better health care countries. and
where
is
most of the money actually coming from and how much is actually being
spent.
Last time I was in Europe, 2001, gas was $1-2 more a gallon then in
the
USA.
Most of that went to funding healthcare from what I understand. Is
that
included in your healthcare costs? I spent a couple days in the
trauma
Center / ICU last week after falling off a ladder. Highland
Hospital,
Oakland, CA. A big percentage of the doctors and nurses were foreign
born.
They are getting their degrees overseas and coming here, so they can
make
some money after years of school and then a couple years of
internship/residency.
Interesting website on torn
meniscus.http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/i...4bdc93286ebc4b...


You really do seem to be 'accident prone'.
Might I suggest laying off the spirits when there's work to be done.
--------------------------
You continue to show you are a stupid idiot!!!!!!!! Where do you a
poor
assed civil servant retiree in Canada that has a piece of **** house
that
takes a couple years to paint and an alcoholic MMA son, who drinks
your
beer. I drink so little, that you daily consumption is probably
equal to 2
months of anything I consume. Just about every post you follow up
Harry's
post with a suckup comment. You are too stupid to comment.


My, my! I seem to have hit the nerve bang on.
Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. SNERK!


Wow. Bilious Bill is "going Ingersoll"! Next, he'll sic his motorscooter
buddies on you.
-------------------------------------------------
Nope, just stating facts.


it blows me away how jealous they both are of me and my family...
---------------------------------------
I do not think they are jealous. They have no reason to be. fine that
your
daughter likes racing, so did I and still do. But I would rather see put
at
least 1/2 the energy and passion you put in to the daughters racing, in to
creating a prosperous life for the family.


Wow...we actually agree on something.
No one is jealous of Snotty, he just irritates us with his lies and
bad attitude.
--------------------------------------
I think the same about you. A life of working for a crown corp for a
pittance of a pension and not spending your life actually accumulating
something decent for your retirement. I realize from your posts here, you
are not very high up the IQ scale, but your could have at least tried to
find a little common sense.



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