Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

In article ,
says...

Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

On Jun 27, 10:16*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.

On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.


Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...

On 6/27/2012 3:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en

ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.


Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...


He should also expand his vocabulary.

In article , says...

On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.


Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...

Of course not, you know I'm right.

On Jun 27, 3:03*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:





On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.

Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...

I didnt know that was your sock puppet, sorry Scott.

On 6/27/2012 5:55 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 27, 3:03 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:





On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.

Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...

I didnt know that was your sock puppet, sorry Scott.


No prob, man... you got my email, it's all good...

On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:05:22 AM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

He's a captivating and convincing speaker, and his battery is a pretty cool idea. However, he glosses over some serious and real problems and concerns.

Antimony is toxic and in some forms can ignite or explode. Don't even get me started about magnesium. A 40 foot shipping container full of molten antimony and magnesium would be a high value target for someone wanting to wreak some serious havoc.

Also, for example, antimony melts at almost 1200 degrees F. That's going to be one hot sucker... wonder what hundred (thousands?) of those will do for global warming?

Another problem not addressed is the battery stores and sources DC, but the power grid is AC. So now we'll have to convert that with big power stations that take DC and convert it to AC. DC motors turning AC generators?

He knows all this stuff, but in his talk to that audience, it doesn't make sense to go into those things. That's why it's important to listen with a critical ear sometimes.

I wish him and all the people working on these kinds of problems the best of luck! They are sure gonna need it.

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:10:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Another problem not addressed is the battery stores and sources DC, but the power grid is AC. So now we'll have to convert that with big power stations that take DC and convert it to AC. DC motors turning AC generators?

===

Absolutely not - high efficiency solid state power inverters.