Energy: Choose
 

Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Energy: Choose
 

In article ,
says...

Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Energy: Choose
 

On Jun 27, 10:16*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.

Energy: Choose
 

On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:05:22 AM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

He's a captivating and convincing speaker, and his battery is a pretty cool idea. However, he glosses over some serious and real problems and concerns.

Antimony is toxic and in some forms can ignite or explode. Don't even get me started about magnesium. A 40 foot shipping container full of molten antimony and magnesium would be a high value target for someone wanting to wreak some serious havoc.

Also, for example, antimony melts at almost 1200 degrees F. That's going to be one hot sucker... wonder what hundred (thousands?) of those will do for global warming?

Another problem not addressed is the battery stores and sources DC, but the power grid is AC. So now we'll have to convert that with big power stations that take DC and convert it to AC. DC motors turning AC generators?

He knows all this stuff, but in his talk to that audience, it doesn't make sense to go into those things. That's why it's important to listen with a critical ear sometimes.

I wish him and all the people working on these kinds of problems the best of luck! They are sure gonna need it.

Energy: Choose
 

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:10:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Another problem not addressed is the battery stores and sources DC, but the power grid is AC. So now we'll have to convert that with big power stations that take DC and convert it to AC. DC motors turning AC generators?

===

Absolutely not - high efficiency solid state power inverters.

Energy: Choose
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:10:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Another problem not addressed is the battery stores and sources DC, but the power grid is AC. So now we'll have to convert that with big power stations that take DC and convert it to AC. DC motors turning AC generators?

===

Absolutely not - high efficiency solid state power inverters.

There's many, many forms of alternative energy being worked on. Too many
to list.

Energy: Choose
 

On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:05:53 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:10:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Another problem not addressed is the battery stores and sources DC, but the power grid is AC. So now we'll have to convert that with big power stations that take DC and convert it to AC. DC motors turning AC generators?

===

Absolutely not - high efficiency solid state power inverters.

Being an electronics guy, I thought about inveters... just wondered if you could scale one up enought to power 200 homes, as he says his ultimate big battery will do. Assuming 200 amps per house, that's 40,000 amps. That's one hell of an inverter. And another big heat source, even with the high efficiency.

Energy: Choose
 

On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.


Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...

Energy: Choose
 

On 6/27/2012 3:03 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en

ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.


Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...


He should also expand his vocabulary.

Energy: Choose
 

In article , says...

On 6/27/2012 11:29 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:16 am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...







Pick the one who makes more sense, and go with that.

Justwait

or

http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sado...o_renewable_en
ergy.html

Also google Vanadium Redox flow Battery.
This stuff is happening pretty fast.
Good, because the obvious problem with solar/wind is storage.
I don't know how it will all work out, but it will.
If we don't listen to the nattering nabobs of negativism.

Here's another choice.

Justwait

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqokqE5dRmM

It's up to you.

Now you've went and confused him with facts! His insane lying rants will
surely go full steam ahead now!

Both of you should shut the **** up.


Hey, leave me out of this. He made up the post, he trolled me, I didn't
respond...

Of course not, you know I'm right.