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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:02:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



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You are making the same argument that automobiles will never replace
horses. Electricity is likely to be the next fuel, but one thing is a
sure thing: petroleum is going out.

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Not for quite a while, I don't think.

Electricity and battery powered automobiles are simply examples of
energy generated by other means
and converted to electricity and/or stored in batteries. If the
current fascination with
"green", electric powered cars grows, we will see the cost of
generating the energy required
to charge them rise. The bulk of raw energy is still in the form of
fossil fuels and the conversion
process adds additional energy and cost requirements.

Those who think they are being "green" by driving a battery powered
car have been fed a
line of BS. It might make them feel good or give them some sense of
being environmentally
friendly, but the truth is they are more environmentally "unfriendly"
than friendly.
Lithium Ion batteries are the best technology we have to date and they
are an environmental
hazard the likes of which we haven't yet to fully experience.

Solar and wind can't come close to meeting the demand and nuclear is
still a political
hot potato. Here's where the energy used to produce electricity in
the USA comes from:

http://mapawatt.com/wp-content/uploa...table_2010.gif

Eisboch

All of that seems quite obvious. Batteries will likely NOT be the most
efficient storage medium, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be
used in the interim.

Oil is on its way out. Period.

Oil isn't on the way out. The infrastructure is all oil based from
acquisition, to refining, to distribution and finally to consumption.
When you can put 8,000 gallons of gas or diesel in a tanker and take it
to where you need it for 24 hour a day use in almost any weather
condition batteries can't perform like that and neither can solar or
wind.

If people are there then the oil can get there.

Unless somebody can give me a viable alternative, I'm sticking with
electricity as the next fuel.

Water produces electricity.
Coal produces electricity.
Solar produces electricity.
Wind produces electricity.
Oil produces electricity.
Nuclear produces electricity.

Electricity is a method of delivery and consumption it is not a fuel.