On 6/16/12 11:58 AM, wrote:
American kids prefer easier
schedules and come out of college with a useless degree in a field
where jobs don't exist.


I'm sure that *some* American kids prefer lighter college schedules. It
is also true that *some* American kids don't go to college as if it were
a trade school, but, rather, as a way to expand their minds and their
knowledge, and learn how to think critically. There are many courses in
the "liberal arts" that are extraordinarily difficult and require a hell
of a lot more thinking than many of the so-called trade school classes.

One of the reasons why our politics is so crappy in this country is that
too many of the voters simply don't know how to think.

On 6/16/12 5:42 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:02:58 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 6/16/12 11:58 AM, wrote:
American kids prefer easier
schedules and come out of college with a useless degree in a field
where jobs don't exist.


I'm sure that *some* American kids prefer lighter college schedules. It
is also true that *some* American kids don't go to college as if it were
a trade school, but, rather, as a way to expand their minds and their
knowledge, and learn how to think critically. There are many courses in
the "liberal arts" that are extraordinarily difficult and require a hell
of a lot more thinking than many of the so-called trade school classes.

One of the reasons why our politics is so crappy in this country is that
too many of the voters simply don't know how to think.

The fact remains that most of the people in math and engineering
programs are foreigners and far too many American kids come out with a
degree that simply makes them the most engaging Barista at Starbucks.


What's your degree in?

On 6/16/12 6:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:45:43 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/16/12 5:42 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:02:58 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 6/16/12 11:58 AM, wrote:
American kids prefer easier
schedules and come out of college with a useless degree in a field
where jobs don't exist.


I'm sure that *some* American kids prefer lighter college schedules. It
is also true that *some* American kids don't go to college as if it were
a trade school, but, rather, as a way to expand their minds and their
knowledge, and learn how to think critically. There are many courses in
the "liberal arts" that are extraordinarily difficult and require a hell
of a lot more thinking than many of the so-called trade school classes.

One of the reasons why our politics is so crappy in this country is that
too many of the voters simply don't know how to think.

The fact remains that most of the people in math and engineering
programs are foreigners and far too many American kids come out with a
degree that simply makes them the most engaging Barista at Starbucks.


What's your degree in?

Life experience and a whole lot of training from the Navy, IBM, SBCCI,
IAEI and work I have done on my own.
I would stack that up against a BA in post modern art appreciation any
day. So did everyone who hired me.


Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

In article ,
says...

On 6/16/12 6:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:45:43 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/16/12 5:42 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:02:58 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 6/16/12 11:58 AM, wrote:
American kids prefer easier
schedules and come out of college with a useless degree in a field
where jobs don't exist.


I'm sure that *some* American kids prefer lighter college schedules. It
is also true that *some* American kids don't go to college as if it were
a trade school, but, rather, as a way to expand their minds and their
knowledge, and learn how to think critically. There are many courses in
the "liberal arts" that are extraordinarily difficult and require a hell
of a lot more thinking than many of the so-called trade school classes.

One of the reasons why our politics is so crappy in this country is that
too many of the voters simply don't know how to think.

The fact remains that most of the people in math and engineering
programs are foreigners and far too many American kids come out with a
degree that simply makes them the most engaging Barista at Starbucks.


What's your degree in?

Life experience and a whole lot of training from the Navy, IBM, SBCCI,
IAEI and work I have done on my own.
I would stack that up against a BA in post modern art appreciation any
day. So did everyone who hired me.


Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...28804,2073703_
2073653_2073690,00.html

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_2073653_2073690,00.html

===

Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

On 6/17/12 11:12 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_2073653_2073690,00.html

===

Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.



As I mentioned earlier in this thread, "top paid careers" is not
necessarily the incentive for many of those who attend college.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_2073653_2073690,00.html

===

Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

These were undergrad only.

On 6/18/12 8:03 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:12:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_2073653_2073690,00.html

===

Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

The people who make obscene amounts of money dropped out of college.



Those who shaped Western Civilization and thought were not, for the most
part, wealthy. Many of them, in fact, were paupers, but they gave us a
lot more than stories of their wealth. It's sad but telling that so many
of you righties only value the ability to earn large sums of money. Any
decent classroom teacher/nurse/social worker/fireman is more valuable to
society than *any* of you.

On Jun 18, 7:03*am, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:12:36 -0400, Wayne.B









wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_20....

===

Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. * The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

The people who make obscene amounts of money dropped out of college.

Seems that way doesn't it Greg. Or, they bumbled their way through and
graduated with the skin of their teeth.