On Jun 5, 9:19*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

On 6/5/12 8:21 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur


I would call the factory and find out what the performance figures are
like with various outboards on that boat. I'm sure they've tested. If
you can get the cruise speed you want with a smaller engine and the boat
loaded the way you intend, then that is enough outboard.

On Jun 5, 9:25*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:21 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com *wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com * *wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... *which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

I would call the factory and find out what the performance figures are
like with various outboards on that boat. I'm sure they've tested. If
you can get the cruise speed you want with a smaller engine and the boat
loaded the way you intend, then that is enough outboard.

They do show speeds on page 5 and 6 of their catalogue.
here's the online version... http://legendboats.com/en/welcome/fl.../catalogue2012

X ` Man wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:21 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 5, 9:19 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 8:16 PM, North Star wrote:





On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 6/5/12 7:49 PM, North Star wrote:

To power a thousand pound aluminum boat the boat's manufacturer and
the local dealer recommend spending another $4600 to upgrade to a 60
hp big foot 4 stroke over the 50 hp 2 stroke that is listed as the
basic pkg engine. I can understand this if you plan on
waterskiing or
tubing but this seems a bit much for cruising. Dealer says the
bigger
motor won't have to work so hard, is better in the hole shots and
will
make the boat easier to resell in the future.
I'm thinking spending $2700 by upgrading to a 50 hp 4 stroke
should be
good enough.
Too bad those Mercury guys aren't still here in this newsgroup.

Why is your dealer suggesting a "big foot" outboard?

He's just spouting the company line.
If you look at the Legend site and check out the 16 Xcalibur, you'll
see that the boat manufacturer recommends the 60 bigfoot.... which I
always thought was for pontoon or displacement type boats.
The local guy also mentioned that the lower end would be heavier
duty... comparable to the lower ends on 75s.

Well, a heavier duty lower unit isn't going to have much meaning on a
relatively light alum boat like you are considering. I doubt you abuse
your outboards.

More like baby them.
Here's the model I'm talking about...
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur


I would call the factory and find out what the performance figures are
like with various outboards on that boat. I'm sure they've tested. If
you can get the cruise speed you want with a smaller engine and the
boat loaded the way you intend, then that is enough outboard.
I would have agreed with you 20 years ago. If this boat is going any
distance offshore on a calm day, it's better to have more HP to run back
when a storm starts to appear!

On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

In article 0c4f2f36-bce2-4953-9561-83c5748378b6
@j9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

I like that boat. The back flip up seats are a nice addition.

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice & warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& warm during our short boating season. (4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.


He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

On Jun 6, 3:03*pm, Oscar wrote:
On 6/6/2012 1:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:









On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:32:47 -0700 (PDT), North Star
*wrote:

On Jun 5, 9:36 pm, *wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT), North Star

*wrote:
Here's the model I'm talking about... * * *http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/16_xcalibur

===

If you are looking for a boat that will keep you warm, dry and
comfortable going through a chop on a breezy day, that is not it.

The walk through windshield models come with a full standup top and
side curtains.
They claim you can run full speed with this top up so that should keep
the wife nice& *warm during our short boating season. *(4-5 months)
Dealer claims he uses his boat 6 months because of this feature.
(Also that little cover for the bow space)
http://legendboats.com/en/boats/xcalibur/features* *scroll down to
full top.

===

Yes, full canvas will make a big difference with warm and dry. *Boats
under 22 ft or so have a difficult time getting through a stiff chop
however.

He probably won't see stiff chop unless he decides to circumnavigate his
island.

I've sailed in waters that would have you hiding in the cabin with a
blanky over your head, SailorBoy.