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iBoaterer[_2_] May 29th 12 02:47 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 

Simply and well stated facts.

Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.

True, government jobs and services are on the downturn in the US, but
the difference is that while Europe exercised austerity measures,
America had a stimulus package.

Despite the hand wringing and protests from the right, the federal
government single-handedly saved the American auto industry. Had the
Republicans been in power in 2008 we would no longer have an auto
industry in America today. And millions more would be out of work.

What concerns me is that this could have a ripple effect on our economy.
Will Europe?s economic woes, based on Republican ideals of economic
austerity, translate into a recession here, despite our best efforts to
create an economy that is slowly but surely improving?

And Americans need to ask themselves if they are better off now than
they were at the end of the Bush regime. A regime that seems to have
brought down the world economy in the blink of an eye. They need to ask
themselves that question, because the answer is invariably ?Uh?.yeah.?

JustWait[_2_] May 29th 12 03:00 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Simply and well stated facts.

Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.

True, government jobs and services are on the downturn in the US, but
the difference is that while Europe exercised austerity measures,
America had a stimulus package.

Despite the hand wringing and protests from the right, the federal
government single-handedly saved the American auto industry. Had the
Republicans been in power in 2008 we would no longer have an auto
industry in America today. And millions more would be out of work.

What concerns me is that this could have a ripple effect on our economy.
Will Europe?s economic woes, based on Republican ideals of economic
austerity, translate into a recession here, despite our best efforts to
create an economy that is slowly but surely improving?

And Americans need to ask themselves if they are better off now than
they were at the end of the Bush regime. A regime that seems to have
brought down the world economy in the blink of an eye. They need to ask
themselves that question, because the answer is invariably ?Uh?.yeah.?


Had a terrible time with the heat this weekend celebrating Memorial day
at the Race Track. It was hell camping and racing for the day... How was
your weekend?

iBoaterer[_2_] May 29th 12 03:40 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
In article , says...

On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Simply and well stated facts.

Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.

True, government jobs and services are on the downturn in the US, but
the difference is that while Europe exercised austerity measures,
America had a stimulus package.

Despite the hand wringing and protests from the right, the federal
government single-handedly saved the American auto industry. Had the
Republicans been in power in 2008 we would no longer have an auto
industry in America today. And millions more would be out of work.

What concerns me is that this could have a ripple effect on our economy.
Will Europe?s economic woes, based on Republican ideals of economic
austerity, translate into a recession here, despite our best efforts to
create an economy that is slowly but surely improving?

And Americans need to ask themselves if they are better off now than
they were at the end of the Bush regime. A regime that seems to have
brought down the world economy in the blink of an eye. They need to ask
themselves that question, because the answer is invariably ?Uh?.yeah.?


Had a terrible time with the heat this weekend celebrating Memorial day
at the Race Track. It was hell camping and racing for the day... How was
your weekend?


It was fine. Cooked ribs and chicken for an informal type of cul de sac
party.

iBoaterer[_2_] May 29th 12 03:41 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:47:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Simply and well stated facts.

Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.

True, government jobs and services are on the downturn in the US, but
the difference is that while Europe exercised austerity measures,
America had a stimulus package.

Despite the hand wringing and protests from the right, the federal
government single-handedly saved the American auto industry. Had the
Republicans been in power in 2008 we would no longer have an auto
industry in America today. And millions more would be out of work.

What concerns me is that this could have a ripple effect on our economy.
Will Europe?s economic woes, based on Republican ideals of economic
austerity, translate into a recession here, despite our best efforts to
create an economy that is slowly but surely improving?

And Americans need to ask themselves if they are better off now than
they were at the end of the Bush regime. A regime that seems to have
brought down the world economy in the blink of an eye. They need to ask
themselves that question, because the answer is invariably ?Uh?.yeah.?



Europe resorted to austerity because they ran out of other people's
money to spend. That is going to happen to us too.
Entitlements and interest on the debt consumes every dollar we take
in. The rest is borrowed


Yes, it will happen to us if the right wing has there way.

X ` Man[_3_] May 29th 12 03:50 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/12 10:30 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:47:10 -0400, wrote:


Simply and well stated facts.

Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.

True, government jobs and services are on the downturn in the US, but
the difference is that while Europe exercised austerity measures,
America had a stimulus package.

Despite the hand wringing and protests from the right, the federal
government single-handedly saved the American auto industry. Had the
Republicans been in power in 2008 we would no longer have an auto
industry in America today. And millions more would be out of work.

What concerns me is that this could have a ripple effect on our economy.
Will Europe?s economic woes, based on Republican ideals of economic
austerity, translate into a recession here, despite our best efforts to
create an economy that is slowly but surely improving?

And Americans need to ask themselves if they are better off now than
they were at the end of the Bush regime. A regime that seems to have
brought down the world economy in the blink of an eye. They need to ask
themselves that question, because the answer is invariably ?Uh?.yeah.?



Europe resorted to austerity because they ran out of other people's
money to spend. That is going to happen to us too.
Entitlements and interest on the debt consumes every dollar we take
in. The rest is borrowed



There used to be a sort of equilibrium between the right wing's
rapaciousness and the determination of the lower and middle income
classes to climb up the ladder of success. But the rich have, for the
most part, cut the rungs off the bottom and middle of that ladder.
Without a strong middle class and the ability of the masses to achieve
it, there's little reason for this country to exist.

Oscar May 29th 12 03:56 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Simply and well stated facts.

Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.

True, government jobs and services are on the downturn in the US, but
the difference is that while Europe exercised austerity measures,
America had a stimulus package.

Despite the hand wringing and protests from the right, the federal
government single-handedly saved the American auto industry. Had the
Republicans been in power in 2008 we would no longer have an auto
industry in America today. And millions more would be out of work.

What concerns me is that this could have a ripple effect on our economy.
Will Europe?s economic woes, based on Republican ideals of economic
austerity, translate into a recession here, despite our best efforts to
create an economy that is slowly but surely improving?

And Americans need to ask themselves if they are better off now than
they were at the end of the Bush regime. A regime that seems to have
brought down the world economy in the blink of an eye. They need to ask
themselves that question, because the answer is invariably ?Uh?.yeah.?


Had a terrible time with the heat this weekend celebrating Memorial day
at the Race Track. It was hell camping and racing for the day... How was
your weekend?


It was fine. Cooked ribs and chicken for an informal type of cul de sac
party.


While you were celebrating cul-de-sacs, the rest of us were observing
Memorial Day.

Wayne.B May 29th 12 05:17 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Without a strong middle class and the ability of the masses to achieve
it, there's little reason for this country to exist.


===

What is your definition of middle class? Statistically there will
always be a middle as well as an upper and lower. Is middle class
defined by home ownership, multiple SUVs and smartphone accounts? Is
it defined by the television advertising media? Is it defined by
political rhetoric? Is it defined by middle class values and
behavior? Is it defined by blue color workers being able to live like
educated professionals?


Jim May 29th 12 05:36 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/2012 12:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Without a strong middle class and the ability of the masses to achieve
it, there's little reason for this country to exist.


===

What is your definition of middle class? Statistically there will
always be a middle as well as an upper and lower. Is middle class
defined by home ownership, multiple SUVs and smartphone accounts? Is
it defined by the television advertising media? Is it defined by
political rhetoric? Is it defined by middle class values and
behavior? Is it defined by blue color workers being able to live like
educated professionals?


Those talking points were fed to him.
The answers to your questions aren't in his repertoire.

iBoaterer[_2_] May 29th 12 05:55 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Without a strong middle class and the ability of the masses to achieve
it, there's little reason for this country to exist.


===

What is your definition of middle class? Statistically there will
always be a middle as well as an upper and lower. Is middle class
defined by home ownership, multiple SUVs and smartphone accounts? Is
it defined by the television advertising media? Is it defined by
political rhetoric? Is it defined by middle class values and
behavior? Is it defined by blue color workers being able to live like
educated professionals?


Wayne, an interesting Wiki on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_class



X ` Man May 29th 12 07:10 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/12 12:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Without a strong middle class and the ability of the masses to achieve
it, there's little reason for this country to exist.


===

What is your definition of middle class? Statistically there will
always be a middle as well as an upper and lower. Is middle class
defined by home ownership, multiple SUVs and smartphone accounts? Is
it defined by the television advertising media? Is it defined by
political rhetoric? Is it defined by middle class values and
behavior? Is it defined by blue color workers being able to live like
educated professionals?



D'oh.

Why am I not surprised you don't know, Wayne? I doubt there is a
specific criteria for defining "middle class" that would satisfy most,
but, generally speaking, it includes having a secure and upwardly mobile
job; a clean, safe and stable home; easy access to and the ability to
pay for health care; retirement security: paid time away from work for
vacation, illness and the birth or adoption of a child; opportunities to
save for the future and the ability to provide a good education,
including a college education, for one's children. Income-wise,
depending upon household size, earnings, geographic location and age,
might be anywhere between $50,000 and $150,000, but those numbers may
vary wildly.

These days, that's more like modern socialism in Europe than what we
have in the United States. But it used to be that way here, before the
rich became even more greedy.

Wayne.B May 29th 12 07:30 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:55:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:50:31 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Without a strong middle class and the ability of the masses to achieve
it, there's little reason for this country to exist.


===

What is your definition of middle class? Statistically there will
always be a middle as well as an upper and lower. Is middle class
defined by home ownership, multiple SUVs and smartphone accounts? Is
it defined by the television advertising media? Is it defined by
political rhetoric? Is it defined by middle class values and
behavior? Is it defined by blue color workers being able to live like
educated professionals?


Wayne, an interesting Wiki on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_class


===

It's good to know that even the X ` Perts can't agree.

:-)




Wayne.B May 29th 12 08:07 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the
rich became even more greedy.


===

There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot com"
bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up those
investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans are the
ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the middle class,
specifically "their" middle class. They should start out by giving up
their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used Toyota or Honda.


X ` Man[_3_] May 29th 12 08:17 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/12 3:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X `
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the
rich became even more greedy.


===

There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot com"
bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up those
investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans are the
ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the middle class,
specifically "their" middle class. They should start out by giving up
their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used Toyota or Honda.



And therein is the reason why I rarely respond to "inquiries" here, and
why I rarely post more than a sentence or two about boating. Why bother?
You and your fellow right-wing assholes have no interest in furthering
discussion in any sort of intellectual way. One sentence posts and
responses...that's what's called for in rec.boats.


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way? Have you
done a study? Have you seen a couple of opinionated URLs somewhere?
Oh, and who are you to make the sort of suggestions you have?

There are millions and millions of Americans suffering financially, not
because they were overleveraged, but because they were ****ed by Wall
Street, the banks, vulture capitalists, and corporations offshoring jobs.



Wayne.B May 29th 12 08:30 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?


===

Easy, close friends and relatives.


iBoaterer[_2_] May 29th 12 08:33 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 5/29/12 3:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X `
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the
rich became even more greedy.


===

There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot com"
bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up those
investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans are the
ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the middle class,
specifically "their" middle class. They should start out by giving up
their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used Toyota or Honda.



And therein is the reason why I rarely respond to "inquiries" here, and
why I rarely post more than a sentence or two about boating. Why bother?
You and your fellow right-wing assholes have no interest in furthering
discussion in any sort of intellectual way. One sentence posts and
responses...that's what's called for in rec.boats.


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way? Have you
done a study? Have you seen a couple of opinionated URLs somewhere?
Oh, and who are you to make the sort of suggestions you have?

There are millions and millions of Americans suffering financially, not
because they were overleveraged, but because they were ****ed by Wall
Street, the banks, vulture capitalists, and corporations offshoring jobs.


That was quite a "one sentence response".....

X ` Man[_3_] May 29th 12 09:16 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/12 3:30 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?


===

Easy, close friends and relatives.



Oh...a scientific sampling.

Oscar May 29th 12 09:23 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/2012 3:17 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 3:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:47 -0400, X `
wrote:

But it used to be that way here, before the rich became even more
greedy.


===

There was certainly plenty of middle class greed during the "dot
com" bubble and the housing asset bubble. People who leveraged up
those investments with mortgage re-financing and home equity loans
are the ones who are now doing the most crying about loss of the
middle class, specifically "their" middle class. They should start
out by giving up their fancy leased cars/SUVs and buy a good used
Toyota or Honda.



And therein is the reason why I rarely respond to "inquiries" here,
and why I rarely post more than a sentence or two about boating. Why
bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes have no interest in
furthering discussion in any sort of intellectual way. One sentence
posts and responses...that's what's called for in rec.boats.


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about
the loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?
Have you done a study? Have you seen a couple of opinionated URLs
somewhere? Oh, and who are you to make the sort of suggestions you
have?

There are millions and millions of Americans suffering financially,
not because they were overleveraged, but because they were ****ed by
Wall Street, the banks, vulture capitalists, and corporations
offshoring jobs.



And to add insult to injury the Govt. bailed out the aforementioned
****ers so they could honor their bonus and perks commitments to
themselves. Aint that special. By the way; who was the leader of this
great nation as this was going on?

X ` Man[_3_] May 29th 12 09:27 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?


===

Easy, close friends and relatives.


One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.


You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

John H.[_5_] May 29th 12 09:28 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?


===

Easy, close friends and relatives.


One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.

JustWait[_2_] May 29th 12 09:31 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.


One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.


You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?


No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...

Oscar May 29th 12 09:44 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.


One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.


You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?


Yes, anything but religion and politics.

Tim May 30th 12 12:50 AM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On May 29, 3:27*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400, *wrote:


On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
*wrote:


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?


===


Easy, close friends and relatives.


One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.


You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?


I'll take the discussions about travel trailers, golf, grand kids,
motorbikes etc. any day. They're not designed to hack people off and
start ****ing matches.

Tim May 30th 12 12:52 AM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On May 29, 4:55*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:56:27 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...


On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:


Simply and well stated facts.


Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.


X ` Man[_3_] May 30th 12 01:04 AM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/12 7:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 29, 3:27 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400, wrote:


On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:


How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?


===


Easy, close friends and relatives.


One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.


You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?


I'll take the discussions about travel trailers, golf, grand kids,
motorbikes etc. any day. They're not designed to hack people off and
start ****ing matches.



If it is off-topic, it is off-topic. I don't really give a damn whether
posts are or are not on-topic, but do chuckle over arguments about
whether certain topics are acceptable in an off-topic newsgroup while
others are not.


JustWait[_2_] May 30th 12 01:21 AM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/2012 8:04 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 7:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 29, 3:27 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about
the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first
place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?


I'll take the discussions about travel trailers, golf, grand kids,
motorbikes etc. any day. They're not designed to hack people off and
start ****ing matches.



If it is off-topic, it is off-topic. I don't really give a damn whether
posts are or are not on-topic, but do chuckle over arguments about
whether certain topics are acceptable in an off-topic newsgroup while
others are not.


No discussion at all, we all know the difference between OT which is ok,
and troll posts, which are not... You know the difference too, but...

X ` Man[_3_] May 30th 12 01:40 AM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/29/12 8:21 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/29/2012 8:04 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 7:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 29, 3:27 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about
the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first
place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

I'll take the discussions about travel trailers, golf, grand kids,
motorbikes etc. any day. They're not designed to hack people off and
start ****ing matches.



If it is off-topic, it is off-topic. I don't really give a damn whether
posts are or are not on-topic, but do chuckle over arguments about
whether certain topics are acceptable in an off-topic newsgroup while
others are not.


No discussion at all, we all know the difference between OT which is ok,
and troll posts, which are not... You know the difference too, but...



If you were concerned about "behavior" in this newsgroup, you'd behave.
You don't. In fact, your behavior in this newsgroup is probably the most
vile.

Tim May 30th 12 02:36 AM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On May 29, 8:02*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:









On May 29, 4:55 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:56:27 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says....


On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:


Simply and well stated facts.


Why Republicans Have It Wrong on the Economy
Guess what? Europe is officially back in a recession. Unemployment is
up, profits are down. But not here in America. Not yet anyway. And the
reason? While European countries inflicted huge cutbacks in government
jobs and services, American government invested in the private sector.


True, government jobs and services are on the downturn in the US, but
the difference is that while Europe exercised austerity measures,
America had a stimulus package.


Despite the hand wringing and protests from the right, the federal
government single-handedly saved the American auto industry. Had the
Republicans been in power in 2008 we would no longer have an auto
industry in America today. And millions more would be out of work..


What concerns me is that this could have a ripple effect on our economy.
Will Europe?s economic woes, based on Republican ideals of economic
austerity, translate into a recession here, despite our best efforts to
create an economy that is slowly but surely improving?


And Americans need to ask themselves if they are better off now than
they were at the end of the Bush regime. A regime that seems to have
brought down the world economy in the blink of an eye. They need to ask
themselves that question, because the answer is invariably ?Uh?.yeah.?


Had a terrible time with the heat this weekend celebrating Memorial day
at the Race Track. It was hell camping and racing for the day... How was
your weekend?


It was fine. Cooked ribs and chicken for an informal type of cul de sac
party.


While you were celebrating cul-de-sacs, the rest of us were observing
Memorial Day.


I was offshore, fishing.


I couldn't go boating this weekend. Local lakes and rivers are way to
shallow *for comfort. We need some northern rain badly. No- we need
some local rain badly. It's really getting dry around the midwest.


WOW! *Missed that! I thought the Midwest had a TON of muchly unwanted
precipitation. My bad.


Really it IS dry around here. in my locale there hasn't been a healthy
rain on about two months. Field corn has it's leaves rapped up tight
like a Cuban cigar. Lot's of places the corn loks akin to a pineapple
crop.

One local river in the Wabash and there are places you can about walk
across it on the sand bars.

John H.[_5_] May 30th 12 11:37 AM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On May 29, 4:55*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:56:27 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...


On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:




Had a terrible time with the heat this weekend celebrating Memorial day
at the Race Track. It was hell camping and racing for the day... How was
your weekend?


It was fine. Cooked ribs and chicken for an informal type of cul de sac
party.


While you were celebrating cul-de-sacs, the rest of us were observing
Memorial Day.


I was offshore, fishing.


I couldn't go boating this weekend. Local lakes and rivers are way to
shallow for comfort. We need some northern rain badly. No- we need
some local rain badly. It's really getting dry around the midwest.


We had a good little t-storm last night that dropped about an inch. Won't do much for lakes and
rivers, but it saves me a week's worth of watering grass!

Tim May 30th 12 01:07 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On May 30, 5:37*am, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On May 29, 4:55*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:56:27 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says....


On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:


Had a terrible time with the heat this weekend celebrating Memorial day
at the Race Track. It was hell camping and racing for the day... How was
your weekend?


It was fine. Cooked ribs and chicken for an informal type of cul de sac
party.


While you were celebrating cul-de-sacs, the rest of us were observing
Memorial Day.


I was offshore, fishing.


I couldn't go boating this weekend. Local lakes and rivers are way to
shallow *for comfort. We need some northern rain badly. No- we need
some local rain badly. It's really getting dry around the midwest.


We had a good little t-storm last night that dropped about an inch. Won't do much for lakes and
rivers, but it saves me a week's worth of watering grass!


We have enough heavy dew here to keep the grass green, but that's
about it.

iBoaterer[_2_] May 30th 12 01:08 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
In article , says...

On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.


You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?


No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...


Misery and hate? Do you mean kind of like calling people low life names
like "****"?

JustWait[_2_] May 30th 12 01:59 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/2012 8:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying" about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?


No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...


Misery and hate? Do you mean kind of like calling people low life names
like "****"?


Oh, you are soooo superior... LOL!

X ` Man[_3_] May 30th 12 02:01 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/12 8:59 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 8:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying"
about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first
place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...


Misery and hate? Do you mean kind of like calling people low life names
like "****"?


Oh, you are soooo superior... LOL!



Actually, you two are clones from different sides of the septic tank,
the ying and yang, as it were, of slime.

JustWait[_2_] May 30th 12 02:09 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/2012 9:01 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/30/12 8:59 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 8:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying"
about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first
place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...

Misery and hate? Do you mean kind of like calling people low life names
like "****"?


Oh, you are soooo superior... LOL!



Actually, you two are clones from different sides of the septic tank,
the ying and yang, as it were, of slime.


Is this all you could come up with Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic
University of America!?

X ` Man[_3_] May 30th 12 02:32 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/12 9:09 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 9:01 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/30/12 8:59 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 8:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying"
about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first
place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like
this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...

Misery and hate? Do you mean kind of like calling people low life names
like "****"?

Oh, you are soooo superior... LOL!



Actually, you two are clones from different sides of the septic tank,
the ying and yang, as it were, of slime.


Is this all you could come up with Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic
University of America!?


snerk You really want to start that crap up again, little man?

JustWait[_2_] May 30th 12 02:45 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/2012 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/30/12 9:09 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 9:01 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/30/12 8:59 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 8:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 5/29/2012 4:27 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/29/12 4:28 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:30:30 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:17:56 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

How would *you* possibly know who is doing "the most crying"
about the
loss of the middle class and why they are "crying," by the way?

===

Easy, close friends and relatives.

One must wonder why you are engaging in this rhetoric in the first
place.

You mean, as opposed to discussions about travel trailers, golf,
grandkids, motorbikes?

No, he means why would anybody respond to a rant that starts like
this:

"Why bother? You and your fellow right-wing assholes..."

When you know the author has nothing to add but misery and hate...

Misery and hate? Do you mean kind of like calling people low life
names
like "****"?

Oh, you are soooo superior... LOL!


Actually, you two are clones from different sides of the septic tank,
the ying and yang, as it were, of slime.


Is this all you could come up with Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic
University of America!?


snerk You really want to start that crap up again, little man?


Is that some kind of threat fat man?

X ` Man[_3_] May 30th 12 02:59 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/12 9:45 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:


Is that some kind of threat fat man?



I don't make idle threats, little boyman.

North Star May 30th 12 03:12 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On May 30, 9:07*am, Tim wrote:
On May 30, 5:37*am, John H. wrote:





On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On May 29, 4:55*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:56:27 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 5/29/2012 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says....


On 5/29/2012 9:47 AM, iBoaterer wrote:


Had a terrible time with the heat this weekend celebrating Memorial day
at the Race Track. It was hell camping and racing for the day... How was
your weekend?


It was fine. Cooked ribs and chicken for an informal type of cul de sac
party.


While you were celebrating cul-de-sacs, the rest of us were observing
Memorial Day.


I was offshore, fishing.


I couldn't go boating this weekend. Local lakes and rivers are way to
shallow *for comfort. We need some northern rain badly. No- we need
some local rain badly. It's really getting dry around the midwest.


We had a good little t-storm last night that dropped about an inch. Won't do much for lakes and
rivers, but it saves me a week's worth of watering grass!


We have enough heavy dew here to keep the grass green, but that's
about it.


Had thunder, lightning and heavy rain showers here last night.
Dog woke me up at 0230hrs by nudging my arm.. d'oh! I thought he
needed to pee.. but he just wanted to find out what the booming was
all about.

North Star May 30th 12 03:17 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On May 30, 10:59*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 5/30/12 9:45 AM, JustWait wrote:

On 5/30/2012 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
Is that some kind of threat fat man?


I don't make idle threats, little boyman.


He's spending an awful lot of time here flinging s**it around.
His finances must have improved dramatically over last year since he
feels no need to get a real job to support his family.

JustWait[_2_] May 30th 12 03:20 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/2012 9:59 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/30/12 9:45 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:


Is that some kind of threat fat man?



I don't make idle threats, little boyman.


So, come up with it then, what you gonna' do?

X ` Man[_3_] May 30th 12 03:29 PM

Why Republicans Have it Wrong on the Economy
 
On 5/30/12 10:20 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 9:59 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/30/12 9:45 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/30/2012 9:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:


Is that some kind of threat fat man?



I don't make idle threats, little boyman.


So, come up with it then, what you gonna' do?


You obviously have problems understanding simple, declarative sentences.
I don't make idle threats.


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