On May 22, 6:25*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 18:29:07 -0400, JustWait
wrote:









On 5/22/2012 5:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 09:44:33 -0400, *wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 20 May 2012 09:01:23 -0400, X ` Man
*wrote:

Religion...why, it's whatever you want it to be!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

Hilarious!!!! And there's this one, too!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q1wFvXnv0
&src_vid=OFkeKKszXTw&annotation_id=annotation_4244 94&feature=iv

Don't miss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E4M3...feature=relmfu

Wow, all that hate... Do you guys really think you are better than
everyone who is not you? Must be a Progressive thing, maybe it's a gene
like Downs Syndrome or something. There should be a study.

You have it partly right, but you need to take a serious look in the
mirror.

"It is acceptable to hate those things that God hates; indeed, this is
very much a proof of a right standing with God. “Let those who love
the Lord hate evil” (Psalm 97:10a). Indeed, the closer our walk with
the Lord and the more we fellowship with Him, the more conscious we
will be of sin, both within and without. Do we not grieve and burn
with anger when God’s name is maligned, when we see spiritual
hypocrisy, when we see blatant unbelief and godless behaviour? The
more we understand attributes and love God’s character, the more we
will be like Him and the more we will hate those things that are
contrary to His Word and nature."

IOW, if it ain't like you, God said you could hate all you want.

Here's thee rest of it:


However, the hatred that is negative surely has to be that which is
directed against others. The Lord mentions hatred in the Sermon on the
Mount: “But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will
be subject to judgment” (Matthew 5:22). The Lord commands that not
only should we be reconciled with our brother before we go before the
Lord, but also that we do it quickly (Matthew 5:23-26). The act of
murder itself was certainly condemned, but hatred is a ‘heart’ sin,
and any hateful thought or act is an act of murder in God’s eyes for
which justice will be demanded, possibly not in this life but at the
judgment. So heinous is the position of hate before God that a man who
hates is said to be walking in darkness, as opposed to the light (1
John 2:9, 11). The worst situation is that of a man who continues
professing religion but remains at enmity with his brother. The
Scriptures declare that such a person is a liar (1 John 4:20), and he
may fool men, but not God. How many believers live for years
pretending that all is well, putting on a front, only to be found
finally wanting because they have harboured enmity (hatred) against a
fellow believer?

Hatred is a poison that destroys use from within, producing bitterness
that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures
tells us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts
(Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also destroys the personal witness of a
Christian because it removes him from fellowship with the Lord and
other believers. Let us be careful to do as the Lord advised and keep
short accounts with everyone about everything, no matter how small,
and the Lord will be faithful to forgive, as He has promised (1 John
1:9; 2:1).

Recommended Resource: Hate-Work: Working through the Pain and
Pleasures of Hate by David W. Augsburger.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-hate.html

On 5/22/12 7:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 22, 6:25 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 18:29:07 -0400,
wrote:









On 5/22/2012 5:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 09:44:33 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 20 May 2012 09:01:23 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Religion...why, it's whatever you want it to be!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

Hilarious!!!! And there's this one, too!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q1wFvXnv0
&src_vid=OFkeKKszXTw&annotation_id=annotation_4244 94&feature=iv

Don't miss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E4M3...feature=relmfu

Wow, all that hate... Do you guys really think you are better than
everyone who is not you? Must be a Progressive thing, maybe it's a gene
like Downs Syndrome or something. There should be a study.

You have it partly right, but you need to take a serious look in the
mirror.

"It is acceptable to hate those things that God hates; indeed, this is
very much a proof of a right standing with God. “Let those who love
the Lord hate evil” (Psalm 97:10a). Indeed, the closer our walk with
the Lord and the more we fellowship with Him, the more conscious we
will be of sin, both within and without. Do we not grieve and burn
with anger when God’s name is maligned, when we see spiritual
hypocrisy, when we see blatant unbelief and godless behaviour? The
more we understand attributes and love God’s character, the more we
will be like Him and the more we will hate those things that are
contrary to His Word and nature."

IOW, if it ain't like you, God said you could hate all you want.

Here's thee rest of it:


However, the hatred that is negative surely has to be that which is
directed against others. The Lord mentions hatred in the Sermon on the
Mount: “But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will
be subject to judgment” (Matthew 5:22). The Lord commands that not
only should we be reconciled with our brother before we go before the
Lord, but also that we do it quickly (Matthew 5:23-26). The act of
murder itself was certainly condemned, but hatred is a ‘heart’ sin,
and any hateful thought or act is an act of murder in God’s eyes for
which justice will be demanded, possibly not in this life but at the
judgment. So heinous is the position of hate before God that a man who
hates is said to be walking in darkness, as opposed to the light (1
John 2:9, 11). The worst situation is that of a man who continues
professing religion but remains at enmity with his brother. The
Scriptures declare that such a person is a liar (1 John 4:20), and he
may fool men, but not God. How many believers live for years
pretending that all is well, putting on a front, only to be found
finally wanting because they have harboured enmity (hatred) against a
fellow believer?

Hatred is a poison that destroys use from within, producing bitterness
that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures
tells us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts
(Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also destroys the personal witness of a
Christian because it removes him from fellowship with the Lord and
other believers. Let us be careful to do as the Lord advised and keep
short accounts with everyone about everything, no matter how small,
and the Lord will be faithful to forgive, as He has promised (1 John
1:9; 2:1).

Recommended Resource: Hate-Work: Working through the Pain and
Pleasures of Hate by David W. Augsburger.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-hate.html


It's too many so many of the most "outspoken" Christians don't take the
Sermon on the Mount seriously.

On 5/22/12 7:49 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:39:50 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Here's thee rest of it:


However, the hatred that is negative surely has to be that which is
directed against others.

The Bible clearly teaches hatred toward non-believers and Christians
have been hated back for that reason.

There are the touchie-feelie Christians, today, that are all about
grace, but I still hear them talking about "Messianic Jews" seeing the
light and coming over to "their" side.

I'm not a hater, but I'm not afraid to buck political correctness and
call a situation for what it is.


Messianic Judaism is Christianity. Jews don't think Jesus is the
messiah. If they do, they aren't Jews.

X ` Man wrote:


It's too many so many of the most "outspoken" Christians don't take
the Sermon on the Mount seriously.
It's what?

On 5/22/2012 4:39 PM, Tim wrote:
Here's thee rest of it:

However, the hatred that is negative surely has to be that which is
directed against others. The Lord mentions hatred in the Sermon on the
Mount: “But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will
be subject to judgment” (Matthew 5:22). The Lord commands that not
only should we be reconciled with our brother before we go before the
Lord, but also that we do it quickly (Matthew 5:23-26). The act of
murder itself was certainly condemned, but hatred is a ‘heart’ sin,
and any hateful thought or act is an act of murder in God’s eyes for
which justice will be demanded, possibly not in this life but at the
judgment. So heinous is the position of hate before God that a man who
hates is said to be walking in darkness, as opposed to the light (1
John 2:9, 11). The worst situation is that of a man who continues
professing religion but remains at enmity with his brother. The
Scriptures declare that such a person is a liar (1 John 4:20), and he
may fool men, but not God. How many believers live for years
pretending that all is well, putting on a front, only to be found
finally wanting because they have harboured enmity (hatred) against a
fellow believer?

Hatred is a poison that destroys use from within, producing bitterness
that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures
tells us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts
(Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also destroys the personal witness of a
Christian because it removes him from fellowship with the Lord and
other believers. Let us be careful to do as the Lord advised and keep
short accounts with everyone about everything, no matter how small,
and the Lord will be faithful to forgive, as He has promised (1 John
1:9; 2:1).

Fear of punishment or hopes of reward are unnecessary for moral behavior
and I sincerely doubt the integrity of those who require it.

On May 22, 6:49*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:39:50 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Here's thee rest of it:

However, the hatred that is negative surely has to be that which is
directed against others.

The Bible clearly teaches hatred toward non-believers and Christians
have been hated back for that reason.

Well, If all you want to do is pick and choose from the Old Testament,
then you're right!

Look in the New Testament and see if you find "hatred"

It ain't there.....

On May 22, 9:29*pm, thumper wrote:
On 5/22/2012 4:39 PM, Tim wrote:









Here's thee rest of it:

However, the hatred that is negative surely has to be that which is
directed against others. The Lord mentions hatred in the Sermon on the
Mount: “But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will
be subject to judgment” (Matthew 5:22). The Lord commands that not
only should we be reconciled with our brother before we go before the
Lord, but also that we do it quickly (Matthew 5:23-26). The act of
murder itself was certainly condemned, but hatred is a ‘heart’ sin,
and any hateful thought or act is an act of murder in God’s eyes for
which justice will be demanded, possibly not in this life but at the
judgment. So heinous is the position of hate before God that a man who
hates is said to be walking in darkness, as opposed to the light (1
John 2:9, 11). The worst situation is that of a man who continues
professing religion but remains at enmity with his brother. The
Scriptures declare that such a person is a liar (1 John 4:20), and he
may fool men, but not God. How many believers live for years
pretending that all is well, putting on a front, only to be found
finally wanting because they have harboured enmity (hatred) against a
fellow believer?

Hatred is a poison that destroys use from within, producing bitterness
that eats away at our hearts and minds. This is why the Scriptures
tells us not to let a “root of bitterness” spring up in our hearts
(Hebrews 12:15). Hatred also destroys the personal witness of a
Christian because it removes him from fellowship with the Lord and
other believers. Let us be careful to do as the Lord advised and keep
short accounts with everyone about everything, no matter how small,
and the Lord will be faithful to forgive, as He has promised (1 John
1:9; 2:1).

Fear of punishment or hopes of reward are unnecessary for moral behavior
and I sincerely doubt the integrity of those who require it.

And don't forget a joyous life. That's part of it too!

On 5/22/2012 7:29 PM, thumper wrote:

Fear of punishment or hopes of reward are unnecessary for moral behavior
and I sincerely doubt the integrity of those who require it.

That sounded pretty dickish which wasn't my intent and it certainly
wasn't directed at Tim. I apologize for the awkward tone.

On 5/22/2012 11:02 PM, thumper wrote:
On 5/22/2012 7:29 PM, thumper wrote:

Fear of punishment or hopes of reward are unnecessary for moral behavior
and I sincerely doubt the integrity of those who require it.

That sounded pretty dickish which wasn't my intent and it certainly
wasn't directed at Tim. I apologize for the awkward tone.

It's ok. Tim is kicking harrys ass here... all he has left is the slob...

On 5/21/2012 4:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 21, 10:35 am, wrote:
...go out on the boat, relax, and do some fishing.

Great idea! That's exactly what I'm going to do this weekend!

Good luck, we got skunked Sunday but picked up one spring chinook
Saturday evening. It was our grand-daughters birthday so we spent most
of the day at a remote beach goofing off. After an early dinner in St
Helens we had about an hour of light left so we anchored up at a
favorite high-water spot. Within 15 minutes one of the rods went down
hard. I handed it off to a guest and he got his first springer the same
day he bought his first license.