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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ....and his fists. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/2/2012 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 08:42:08 -0700, wrote: On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote: In , lid says... On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM, wrote: In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed. What a stupid law. You are supposed to die as all good victims should. I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago. If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a few needless deaths. The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. You just said it was "only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed." How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. I don't tolerate crime any more than you do, including vigilante murder. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? |
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/2/12 10:43 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. Wayne's advice? Never bring fists to a gunfight. |
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On Thu, 03 May 2012 00:59:16 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 21:04:00 -0700, thumper wrote: On 5/2/2012 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012 08:42:08 -0700, wrote: On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote: In , lid says... On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM, wrote: In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed. What a stupid law. You are supposed to die as all good victims should. I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago. If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a few needless deaths. The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. You just said it was "only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed." There is nothing more imminent that an attack in progress. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. I don't tolerate crime any more than you do, including vigilante murder. The state still has not proved that is what happened If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
In article , lid says...
On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote: In , lid says... On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM, wrote: In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed. What a stupid law. You are supposed to die as all good victims should. I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago. If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a few needless deaths. Yet you had to feel fear of harm many times, why? |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
In article ,
says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) You don't know if that's what happened. As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not what happened either. Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope) That's just silly! Anyone knows you can't prove a negative. Why is it so hard to believe that a known (and arrested for) violent vigilante like Zimmerman would attack someone? I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year I could find data for) As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles...... Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time. Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando. Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen. It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels. Bull****!! Orlando LONG before Disney et al was a big working city. http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/orlando/crime/ As far as your take on Sanford, then just why was Zimmerman a vigilante who claimed that he was doing this because of "numerous" break ins if Sanford is such an idyllic place? |
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
In article ,
says... On Wed, 02 May 2012 21:04:00 -0700, thumper wrote: On 5/2/2012 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012 08:42:08 -0700, wrote: On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote: In , lid says... On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM, wrote: In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed. What a stupid law. You are supposed to die as all good victims should. I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago. If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a few needless deaths. The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. You just said it was "only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed." There is nothing more imminent that an attack in progress. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. I don't tolerate crime any more than you do, including vigilante murder. The state still has not proved that is what happened Because it hasn't gone to court yet. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:41:10 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. And you have proof of this, I take it? === Someone does. There were witnesses to the scuffle. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/12 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me. |
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
In article ,
says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. He is in fear! |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/12 10:55 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:40:49 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) You don't know if that's what happened. As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not what happened either. Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope) That's just silly! Anyone knows you can't prove a negative. Why is it so hard to believe that a known (and arrested for) violent vigilante like Zimmerman would attack someone? If the state can't prove Zimmerman's story is wrong he is innocent. He says he was walking away from Martin when he was attacked. I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year I could find data for) As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles...... Why the fascination with the Skittles? Who cares what this kid stole from the 7-11 if he was trying to kill Zimmerman with his bare hands? Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time. Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando. Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen. It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels. Bull****!! Orlando LONG before Disney et al was a big working city. http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/orlando/crime/ Before Disney, Orlando was a tiny ******** in central Florida that was mainly known for being a rail depot shipping oranges and cattle north. The biggest emploiyers were the Air Force and Martin-Marietta. Now it is a huge ******** with the main industry being the fleecing of tourists, either at a theme park or in a conventional robbery. If I am going north, I go up 301, just to miss Orlando. As far as your take on Sanford, then just why was Zimmerman a vigilante who claimed that he was doing this because of "numerous" break ins if Sanford is such an idyllic place? You are simply pointing out why Zimmerman had a right to be afraid of a thug like Martin. You have no evidence Martin was a thug. Zimmerman had an arrest record that indicates he was a thug. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. How hard do you think it is for harry to prove there are folks out there that would wish him harm? |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 5:20 AM, BAR wrote:
In , lid says... On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote: You are supposed to die as all good victims should. I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago. If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a few needless deaths. Yet you had to feel fear of harm many times, why? We all have self preservation instincts and imaginations. Some are more paranoid than others. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/2/2012 10:43 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. ....and Miami street smarts. ....and the arrogance of youth. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 8:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Wed, 02 May 2012 21:04:00 -0700, wrote: On 5/2/2012 10:50 AM, wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012 08:42:08 -0700, wrote: On 5/2/2012 5:14 AM, BAR wrote: In , lid says... On 5/1/2012 12:40 PM, wrote: In fact the physical attack is not even the legal test, only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed. What a stupid law. You are supposed to die as all good victims should. I've survived quite a while without a gun including Detroit and Chicago. If I killed every time I felt fear of harm there would be more than a few needless deaths. The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. You just said it was "only that Zimmerman feared he was going to be harmed." There is nothing more imminent that an attack in progress. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. I don't tolerate crime any more than you do, including vigilante murder. The state still has not proved that is what happened Because it hasn't gone to court yet. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 6:29 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/2/12 10:43 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. Wayne's advice? Never bring fists to a gunfight. Good advice. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 8:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) You don't know if that's what happened. As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not what happened either. Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope) That's just silly! Anyone knows you can't prove a negative. Why is it so hard to believe that a known (and arrested for) violent vigilante like Zimmerman would attack someone? I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year I could find data for) As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles...... Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time. Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando. Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen. It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels. Bull****!! Orlando LONG before Disney et al was a big working city. http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/orlando/crime/ As far as your take on Sanford, then just why was Zimmerman a vigilante who claimed that he was doing this because of "numerous" break ins if Sanford is such an idyllic place? There are thousands of neighborhood watch organizations across the country, and many cities give uniforms and police cars to citizen volunteers who serve to protect all citizens against crimes. I doubt that any of those volunteers would appreciate a flaming retard calling them vigilantes. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 10:43 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/3/12 10:38 AM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me. Of course not. You are a habitual liar. I'd love to hear the reason you gave for wanting to carry a concealed gun on your person. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
In article ,
says... On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:40:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) You don't know if that's what happened. As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not what happened either. Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope) That's just silly! Anyone knows you can't prove a negative. Why is it so hard to believe that a known (and arrested for) violent vigilante like Zimmerman would attack someone? If the state can't prove Zimmerman's story is wrong he is innocent. He says he was walking away from Martin when he was attacked. I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year I could find data for) As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles...... Why the fascination with the Skittles? Who cares what this kid stole from the 7-11 if he was trying to kill Zimmerman with his bare hands? Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time. Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando. Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen. It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels. Bull****!! Orlando LONG before Disney et al was a big working city. http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/orlando/crime/ Before Disney, Orlando was a tiny ******** in central Florida that was mainly known for being a rail depot shipping oranges and cattle north. The biggest emploiyers were the Air Force and Martin-Marietta. FAR from a "tiny ********". Now it is a huge ******** with the main industry being the fleecing of tourists, either at a theme park or in a conventional robbery. If I am going north, I go up 301, just to miss Orlando. Gee, you sound bitter! Don't care for free enterprise, huh? 301? Hey, that means you get to visit such lovely cities as Ocala to avoid that awful Orlando.... As far as your take on Sanford, then just why was Zimmerman a vigilante who claimed that he was doing this because of "numerous" break ins if Sanford is such an idyllic place? You are simply pointing out why Zimmerman had a right to be afraid of a thug like Martin. And you seem to know Martin was a "thug" how? What about the FACTS that Zimmerman has a violent past? Does Martin? No. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 10:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:41:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. And you have proof of this, I take it? === Someone does. There were witnesses to the scuffle. That doesn't mean there is real evidence. Without reel ev-e-dense there is no case. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 11:03 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/3/12 10:55 AM, wrote: On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:40:49 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) You don't know if that's what happened. As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not what happened either. Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope) That's just silly! Anyone knows you can't prove a negative. Why is it so hard to believe that a known (and arrested for) violent vigilante like Zimmerman would attack someone? If the state can't prove Zimmerman's story is wrong he is innocent. He says he was walking away from Martin when he was attacked. I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year I could find data for) As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles...... Why the fascination with the Skittles? Who cares what this kid stole from the 7-11 if he was trying to kill Zimmerman with his bare hands? Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time. Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando. Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen. It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels. Bull****!! Orlando LONG before Disney et al was a big working city. http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/orlando/crime/ Before Disney, Orlando was a tiny ******** in central Florida that was mainly known for being a rail depot shipping oranges and cattle north. The biggest emploiyers were the Air Force and Martin-Marietta. Now it is a huge ******** with the main industry being the fleecing of tourists, either at a theme park or in a conventional robbery. If I am going north, I go up 301, just to miss Orlando. As far as your take on Sanford, then just why was Zimmerman a vigilante who claimed that he was doing this because of "numerous" break ins if Sanford is such an idyllic place? You are simply pointing out why Zimmerman had a right to be afraid of a thug like Martin. You have no evidence Martin was a thug. Zimmerman had an arrest record that indicates he was a thug. What was Zimm. ever convicted of? |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 8:41 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. And you have proof of this, I take it? I thought everyone knows how to make a fist. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/12 11:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 5/3/2012 10:38 AM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. How hard do you think it is for harry to prove there are folks out there that would wish him harm? It's probably easy when one can present your insane, threatening posts. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:55:34 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:40:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: The real question is whether there was an imminent threat. How many of these thugs punched you in the nose, knocked you down and banged your head on the concrete? (simply because they thought you were watching them) You don't know if that's what happened. As I have stated a number of times, the state can't prove that is not what happened either. Why is it so hard to believe that a dope smoking thief like Martin would not attack someone. (there IS evidence of the theft and dope) That's just silly! Anyone knows you can't prove a negative. Why is it so hard to believe that a known (and arrested for) violent vigilante like Zimmerman would attack someone? If the state can't prove Zimmerman's story is wrong he is innocent. He says he was walking away from Martin when he was attacked. I would not be surprised if you have a number for that but the big city philosophy is that you are supposed to tolerate crime, make a report to the police and assume nobody will ever be arrested for it. As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... You don't need a weapon to harm someone. Over 800 people were killed in the US in 2009 with hands or feet as the only weapon (the last year I could find data for) As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles...... Why the fascination with the Skittles? Who cares what this kid stole from the 7-11 if he was trying to kill Zimmerman with his bare hands? Some of us moved here because we don't want to live like that. If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. If they didn't want to live like that, why move to the 'burbs of Orlando, it's been a big city for a LONG time. Sanford is nothing like New York, Chicago or DC It is 16 miles and a culture away from Orlando. Orlando is not even like any North Eastern city I have seen. It is just a big conglomeration of theme parks and hotels. Bull****!! Orlando LONG before Disney et al was a big working city. http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/orlando/crime/ Before Disney, Orlando was a tiny ******** in central Florida that was mainly known for being a rail depot shipping oranges and cattle north. The biggest emploiyers were the Air Force and Martin-Marietta. Now it is a huge ******** with the main industry being the fleecing of tourists, either at a theme park or in a conventional robbery. If I am going north, I go up 301, just to miss Orlando. As far as your take on Sanford, then just why was Zimmerman a vigilante who claimed that he was doing this because of "numerous" break ins if Sanford is such an idyllic place? You are simply pointing out why Zimmerman had a right to be afraid of a thug like Martin. Orlando was much more than that. When I worked at Cape Canaveral in 1964, Orlando was the closest place to Cocoa Beach one could take a date for a Steak and Shake! |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/12 12:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 10:38 AM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me. That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not issue". What was your "compelling need"? I wanted one, I knew who to ask and task, and I got one. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:05:33 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 5/3/2012 10:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:41:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. And you have proof of this, I take it? === Someone does. There were witnesses to the scuffle. That doesn't mean there is real evidence. Without reel ev-e-dense there is no case. I couldn't believe Kevin actually wrote, "That doesn't meant there is real evidence." There are liberals out there urging the revenge killing of Zimmerman - with no real evidence. What a hoot. OK, I'll butt out now. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
In article ,
says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 10:38 AM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me. That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not issue". What was your "compelling need"? Hey, Harry was never one to let facts get in the way of a good tale about himself!! |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
In article , dump-on-
says... On 5/3/12 12:53 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 10:38 AM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me. That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not issue". What was your "compelling need"? I wanted one, I knew who to ask and task, and I got one. Once more, what was your "compelling need"? |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
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says... On Thu, 03 May 2012 12:05:33 -0400, Oscar wrote: On 5/3/2012 10:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Thu, 3 May 2012 08:41:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:48:00 -0400, wrote: As opposed to killing a kid armed with Skittles....... ...and his fists. And you have proof of this, I take it? === Someone does. There were witnesses to the scuffle. That doesn't mean there is real evidence. Without reel ev-e-dense there is no case. I couldn't believe Kevin actually wrote, "That doesn't meant there is real evidence." There are liberals out there urging the revenge killing of Zimmerman - with no real evidence. What a hoot. OK, I'll butt out now. And here's John, who tries SO hard to portray himself as so high on a pedestal that he'd never resort of off topic posting or name calling or insulting. Oh, wait..... And just what liberals are "urging revenge killing of Zimmerman"? |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/2012 4:08 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlevqqdncQoc9fWJz_SnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 5/3/12 12:53 PM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 10:43:27 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 5/3/12 10:38 AM, wrote: On Thu, 03 May 2012 06:33:00 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/3/12 12:59 AM, wrote: If Harry wants to boycott Florida, do it. All the time he is bragging about his license to carry in Maryland. I am still waiting to hear what the justification he used on the application was. Who cares...? Anyone who wants to point out hypocrisy. What hypocrisy? I haven't shot anyone and unless we encounter a "home invader," I'm not going to shoot anyone. A kid walking down the street, no matter what his skin color, is not going to attract my curiosity. Oh, and as you know, just about anyone can get a carry permit on demand in Florida, since it is one of the loosest states in gun control. The same is not true in Maryland. Hence my question, why did you go to all the effort to get and maintain a carry permit in Maryland if you were not in fear of being attacked on the street? That is the criteria that you swore to when you applied and we presume you must actually carry if that fear is ongoing. If it is not, you are lying every time you renew your permit. I know many people who have tried and failed to get a permit in Maryland. There was no problem with the background check. The problem was always a lack of a compelling need. I told you more than once...it wasn't that much of an "effort" for me. That flies in the face of the facts. Maryland is right up there with New York City in the difficulty if getting a carry permit. In fact Maryland is being sued because "may issue" is usually "will not issue". What was your "compelling need"? I wanted one, I knew who to ask and task, and I got one. Once more, what was your "compelling need"? Here's one case where you SHOULD press for an honest answer. |
The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
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The Right Wing Darling Zimmerman
On 5/3/12 5:47 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2012 17:02:01 -0400, wrote: If I had never heard of anyone who tried to get a Md CCW I might believe you but I know a lot of people who were refused, everyone I know who tried. Some of these people already had BATF machine gun stamps and a few had very high security clearances. It wasn't the background check. The issue was always "need". ======== If you had credible evidence that threats had been made on your life that would probably satisfy the "need" test, so the real question is who would do such a thing and why. You might start by doing a Google search for "Ullico scandal" and what our hero's role was in all that. Of course it's possible that he could have mailed the dead fish and love letter himself. D'oh. And yet another example of W'hine playing the "Do as I say, not as I do" game. No individual lost a penny in that debacle, no pensioner lost a dime of pension, no survivor lost a penny of insurance payment and, of course, I was retained by the group that eventually took over the company and cleaned house. Other than that, you're your usual unknowledgeable self. |
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