In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...item231b9453ab

Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item256f935924

It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...item231b9453ab

Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item256f935924

It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

===

And here's a unit from Sitex for about $380.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302026|141439|320789|328476&id=887116

I'm not familiar with it but I see that it uses CMAP chart chips. We
use CMAP chips in our Furuno system and they are very, very good -
albeit a bit pricey. You could cover the entire area that you are
interested in with a single W74 chip.

http://www.jeppesen.com/marine/lightmarine/gb/max/coverage.jsp?region=CEU

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...item231b9453ab

Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item256f935924

It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

===

And here's a unit from Sitex for about $380.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302026|141439|320789|328476&id=887116

I'm not familiar with it but I see that it uses CMAP chart chips. We
use CMAP chips in our Furuno system and they are very, very good -
albeit a bit pricey. You could cover the entire area that you are
interested in with a single W74 chip.

http://www.jeppesen.com/marine/lightmarine/gb/max/coverage.jsp?region=CEU

I am not a fan of the "deals" that can be had on eBay.

On 4/23/12 6:21 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:51 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...item231b9453ab

Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item256f935924

It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

===

And here's a unit from Sitex for about $380.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302026|141439|320789|328476&id=887116

I'm not familiar with it but I see that it uses CMAP chart chips. We
use CMAP chips in our Furuno system and they are very, very good -
albeit a bit pricey. You could cover the entire area that you are
interested in with a single W74 chip.

http://www.jeppesen.com/marine/lightmarine/gb/max/coverage.jsp?region=CEU

I am not a fan of the "deals" that can be had on eBay.


What difference does that make to you? You've never even owned a boat.

On 4/23/2012 8:22 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/23/12 6:21 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:51 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be
about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a
good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...item231b9453ab


Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA


http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item256f935924


It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

===

And here's a unit from Sitex for about $380.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302026|141439|320789|328476&id=887116


I'm not familiar with it but I see that it uses CMAP chart chips. We
use CMAP chips in our Furuno system and they are very, very good -
albeit a bit pricey. You could cover the entire area that you are
interested in with a single W74 chip.

http://www.jeppesen.com/marine/lightmarine/gb/max/coverage.jsp?region=CEU


I am not a fan of the "deals" that can be had on eBay.


What difference does that make to you? You've never even owned a boat.

What does fanship of ebay have to do with boat ownership?

On Apr 23, 8:21*am, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:51 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...PS-Chartplotte....

Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. * The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. *That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. * With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B00....

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. *Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540....

It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. * You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

No. It RETAILS for only $439.99, but that assumes you caught the "no
transponder" note, which I am guessing is the hook.

I don't think I would go the "computer" route, since it requires an
inverter and a Rube Goldberg setup and still doesn't give you anything
but GPS. You can do GPS (only) for a LOT less and carry it with you
off the boat with street map capability.

Thank you for sharing.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:21:33 -0400, wrote:

I don't think I would go the "computer" route, since it requires an
inverter and a Rube Goldberg setup and still doesn't give you anything

===

There's nothing Rube Goldberg about it. A lot of people are doing it
either on laptops or tablets. I've been navigating that way for
close to 20 years and tens of thousands of miles. The user interface
for route planning on a PC is much more user friendly than any
dedicated chart plotter that I've ever seen. Since the software and
charts are free you can do all of your trip planning in advance on
your desktop computer. Routes transfer easily from one computer to
another, and in some cases to your chart plotter also.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...item231b9453ab

Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item256f935924

It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

No. It RETAILS for only $439.99, but that assumes you caught the "no
transponder" note, which I am guessing is the hook.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=150&pID=28746

Part Number: 010-00764-01
Suggested Retail Price: $ 499.99 USD

You must have missed the part where I said "...you can purchase it from
Garmin for $499.99"

I don't think I would go the "computer" route, since it requires an
inverter and a Rube Goldberg setup and still doesn't give you anything
but GPS. You can do GPS (only) for a LOT less and carry it with you
off the boat with street map capability.

The computer route would be ok if you kept it inside the cabin and you
had an SSD instead of spinning media.

On 4/24/12 6:15 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:30:51 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I'm thinking on the idea of ditching the harts and going with a
Garmin.

I'm think of going with something like this...

I don't really feel like spending huge dollars and this would be about
my limit, I Don't know anything about them, does this seem like a good
model? and are the charts automatically renewable, or do you have to
buy an update?

BTW, This 2owuld be used for running on the Ohio, Tennessee, and
Cumberland rivers, including lake Barclay and Ky. Lakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-Rebate-G...item231b9453ab

Thanks!

===

I'm not familiar with that particular model of Garmin chart plotter
but most Garmin products rank fairly well for ease of use. The
downside is that you need to buy one or more Garmin chart chips, and
before you do that, you should check to make sure they have chips for
your area. That particular model uses something called BlueChart® g2
Vision cards that I am not familiar with.

If you already have a laptop computer you may not need anything but a
small handheld GPS for backup and use in a dinghy. With the addition
of a $30 USB GPS, an inexpensive inverter, a free software download,
and free chart downloads, you are on the air with a full featured
navigation package with route planning, waypoint setting, track
plotting, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-BU-353-Waterproof-USB-Receiver/dp/B000PKX2KA

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/

http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/download_agreement.htm

There are other Garmins that you might consider. Here's an EBAY
listing for a used 192C which is an older unit but has good features:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garmin-GPSMAP-192C-GPS-Receiver-/160785717540?pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item256f935924

It uses chart chips that cost about $100 or so. You should check on
chart availability for your area before buying any plotter.

Looks like a nice little unit. But, you can purchase it from Garmin for
$499.99

No. It RETAILS for only $439.99, but that assumes you caught the "no
transponder" note, which I am guessing is the hook.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=150&pID=28746

Part Number: 010-00764-01
Suggested Retail Price: $ 499.99 USD

You must have missed the part where I said "...you can purchase it from
Garmin for $499.99"

I don't think I would go the "computer" route, since it requires an
inverter and a Rube Goldberg setup and still doesn't give you anything
but GPS. You can do GPS (only) for a LOT less and carry it with you
off the boat with street map capability.

The computer route would be ok if you kept it inside the cabin and you
had an SSD instead of spinning media.



There literally are dozens of GPS/Marine Chart apps available for smart
phones and tablets. Assuming you keep the instruments dry, they are ok
for boat use, but...none of these devices I have seen have a screen you
can see in even moderate sunlight.

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:15:03 -0400, BAR wrote:

The computer route would be ok if you kept it inside the cabin and you
had an SSD instead of spinning media.

========

A lot depends on the boat and the laptop. None of my laptops have
had SSDs, none have been kept inside the cabin (except on sail boats),
and none have ever experienced a hard drive failure, even when dropped
(and that has happened). My current laptop has survived a number of
salt spray incidents but not all of them will.