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The only way Republicans can win
On 3/30/2012 1:43 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 3/30/2012 10:41 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:05:19 -0500, Boating All wrote: In , says... Bull****. They buy beer and booze don't they? Do they not drive? Plenty of Americans don't drive. Plenty of living Americans were born at home and don't have a birth certificate. Plenty of Americans are tee-totalers. That's laughable anyway, since nobody over 30 or so has to show ID to buy spirits. I don't think these new laws will matter much. Here's something: http://tinyurl.com/7294q9h Doesn't add up to a hill of beans. Only thing it does is raise a big stink when some Americans can't cast their vote. It looks bad, real bad. And everybody knows who is to blame for it. So they were born at home, without a birth certificate, never bought a beer or booze before they were 30 or so, and never drove. I suppose they never worked, so wouldn't have a social security number, and surely never had a credit card or a checking account. They most likely don't even know anyone with a car, and therefore couldn't get to a DMV anyway. In fact, even getting a free picture ID would be a tremendous pain in the ass, 'cause they'd have to get out of bed. What happy horse**** you folks preach. I wonder why? Because voter fraud is the Democrats best election tool... The republicans election tool is lies from FOX. You sound like Harry sans brain. -- http://tinyurl.com/75bq9db |
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The only way Republicans can win
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says... On 3/30/12 7:09 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:32:24 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 3:40 AM, jps wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:16:03 -0400, wrote: On 3/29/2012 9:09 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:29:21 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:28:36 -0400, wrote: If the TV station can find over a hundred in the city of Ft Myers with their weak assed investigation team it must be more wide spread than you would have us believe. Considering we had a whole presidential election decided by less than 500 Florida votes, I would think you would want more integrity in the system. Hispanics (the majority of our aliens) are more likely to vote GOP than democratic. They tend to be pro life and anti gay. If that were true, there's no friggin' way the Republican legislature in Floriduh would've passed the law. You can vote with a Sams club card. You can pretty much eliminate anybody who thinks voter id is not important, from any logical discussion involving your rights. These are the same folks who believe the Constitution is a "living, evolving document"... Oh, and you cannot admit that many of these laws are passed by Republicans knowing that they're suppressing the voter of people who are poor and likely to vote Democratic? If so, stop fooling yourself. Voting fraud is an infinitesimally small problem that has nothing to do with these laws. It's ginned up bull****. Indeed, there are national statistics indicating fraud based on false voter ID is an incredibly tiny problem. The motivation is suppressing the votes of minorities, and that is all there is to it. Indeed, indeed! MSNBC, the Washington Post, and Brian Williams all say the same thing. Why, then, are f'ing liberals so against ID's? Don't say 'money', 'cause we both know that's bull****. There are no studies showing significant voter fraud based upon false IDs. It's a canard conservatrash use to keep down the vote of voters who won't vote for conservative candidates. Any voter fraud should be prosecuted. |
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The only way Republicans can win
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says... On 3/30/12 9:15 AM, JustWait wrote: On 3/30/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 3/30/12 8:43 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:57:56 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 7:09 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:32:24 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 3:40 AM, jps wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:16:03 -0400, wrote: On 3/29/2012 9:09 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:29:21 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:28:36 -0400, wrote: If the TV station can find over a hundred in the city of Ft Myers with their weak assed investigation team it must be more wide spread than you would have us believe. Considering we had a whole presidential election decided by less than 500 Florida votes, I would think you would want more integrity in the system. Hispanics (the majority of our aliens) are more likely to vote GOP than democratic. They tend to be pro life and anti gay. If that were true, there's no friggin' way the Republican legislature in Floriduh would've passed the law. You can vote with a Sams club card. You can pretty much eliminate anybody who thinks voter id is not important, from any logical discussion involving your rights. These are the same folks who believe the Constitution is a "living, evolving document"... Oh, and you cannot admit that many of these laws are passed by Republicans knowing that they're suppressing the voter of people who are poor and likely to vote Democratic? If so, stop fooling yourself. Voting fraud is an infinitesimally small problem that has nothing to do with these laws. It's ginned up bull****. Indeed, there are national statistics indicating fraud based on false voter ID is an incredibly tiny problem. The motivation is suppressing the votes of minorities, and that is all there is to it. Indeed, indeed! MSNBC, the Washington Post, and Brian Williams all say the same thing. Why, then, are f'ing liberals so against ID's? Don't say 'money', 'cause we both know that's bull****. There are no studies showing significant voter fraud based upon false IDs. It's a canard conservatrash use to keep down the vote of voters who won't vote for conservative candidates. Weasel out of answering the questions, then call names. You're so f'ing predictable. I didn't weasel out of anything. My understanding of the problem is that a lot of lower income folks simply don't have the sort of photo ID the conservatrashers want, and it would be a major hassle for many of them to get one. We all know the right-wing motivation for this...it's to restrict voting on the part of lower income and minority groups. It's not fraud...that's just the excuse the conservatrashers are using. BTW, conservatrash is not name calling. It's truth-telling. Most of today's conservatives are nothing more than trash, and you're a perfect example. My daughter doesn't drive so she went to get her ID when she turned 18 a few weeks back. Took her all of ten minutes at one of the several MVD offices around the state. They even had folks there ready to help non speakers... That doesn't mean it is as easy for the majority of folks who need a photo ID. And how did your non-driving daughter get to the MVD? And why doesn't she drive? It doesn't matter why she doesn't drive. The fact remains that it is not difficult to obtain a government issued photo identification, as long as you are legally in the USA. If you aren't here legally you don't need a government issued photo identification unless it comes from ICE or a prison. |
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The only way Republicans can win
On 3/30/2012 6:59 PM, BAR wrote:
In , dump-on- says... On 3/30/12 9:15 AM, JustWait wrote: On 3/30/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 3/30/12 8:43 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:57:56 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 7:09 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:32:24 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 3:40 AM, jps wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:16:03 -0400, wrote: On 3/29/2012 9:09 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:29:21 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:28:36 -0400, wrote: If the TV station can find over a hundred in the city of Ft Myers with their weak assed investigation team it must be more wide spread than you would have us believe. Considering we had a whole presidential election decided by less than 500 Florida votes, I would think you would want more integrity in the system. Hispanics (the majority of our aliens) are more likely to vote GOP than democratic. They tend to be pro life and anti gay. If that were true, there's no friggin' way the Republican legislature in Floriduh would've passed the law. You can vote with a Sams club card. You can pretty much eliminate anybody who thinks voter id is not important, from any logical discussion involving your rights. These are the same folks who believe the Constitution is a "living, evolving document"... Oh, and you cannot admit that many of these laws are passed by Republicans knowing that they're suppressing the voter of people who are poor and likely to vote Democratic? If so, stop fooling yourself. Voting fraud is an infinitesimally small problem that has nothing to do with these laws. It's ginned up bull****. Indeed, there are national statistics indicating fraud based on false voter ID is an incredibly tiny problem. The motivation is suppressing the votes of minorities, and that is all there is to it. Indeed, indeed! MSNBC, the Washington Post, and Brian Williams all say the same thing. Why, then, are f'ing liberals so against ID's? Don't say 'money', 'cause we both know that's bull****. There are no studies showing significant voter fraud based upon false IDs. It's a canard conservatrash use to keep down the vote of voters who won't vote for conservative candidates. Weasel out of answering the questions, then call names. You're so f'ing predictable. I didn't weasel out of anything. My understanding of the problem is that a lot of lower income folks simply don't have the sort of photo ID the conservatrashers want, and it would be a major hassle for many of them to get one. We all know the right-wing motivation for this...it's to restrict voting on the part of lower income and minority groups. It's not fraud...that's just the excuse the conservatrashers are using. BTW, conservatrash is not name calling. It's truth-telling. Most of today's conservatives are nothing more than trash, and you're a perfect example. My daughter doesn't drive so she went to get her ID when she turned 18 a few weeks back. Took her all of ten minutes at one of the several MVD offices around the state. They even had folks there ready to help non speakers... That doesn't mean it is as easy for the majority of folks who need a photo ID. And how did your non-driving daughter get to the MVD? And why doesn't she drive? It doesn't matter why she doesn't drive. The fact remains that it is not difficult to obtain a government issued photo identification, as long as you are legally in the USA. If you aren't here legally you don't need a government issued photo identification unless it comes from ICE or a prison. Exactly my point. I don't have a birth certificate, she doesn't have a drivers license and we both have picture ID's suitable to vote in any state. |
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The only way Republicans can win
In article , says...
On 3/30/2012 6:59 PM, BAR wrote: In , dump-on- says... On 3/30/12 9:15 AM, JustWait wrote: On 3/30/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 3/30/12 8:43 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:57:56 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 7:09 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:32:24 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 3:40 AM, jps wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:16:03 -0400, wrote: On 3/29/2012 9:09 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:29:21 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:28:36 -0400, wrote: If the TV station can find over a hundred in the city of Ft Myers with their weak assed investigation team it must be more wide spread than you would have us believe. Considering we had a whole presidential election decided by less than 500 Florida votes, I would think you would want more integrity in the system. Hispanics (the majority of our aliens) are more likely to vote GOP than democratic. They tend to be pro life and anti gay. If that were true, there's no friggin' way the Republican legislature in Floriduh would've passed the law. You can vote with a Sams club card. You can pretty much eliminate anybody who thinks voter id is not important, from any logical discussion involving your rights. These are the same folks who believe the Constitution is a "living, evolving document"... Oh, and you cannot admit that many of these laws are passed by Republicans knowing that they're suppressing the voter of people who are poor and likely to vote Democratic? If so, stop fooling yourself. Voting fraud is an infinitesimally small problem that has nothing to do with these laws. It's ginned up bull****. Indeed, there are national statistics indicating fraud based on false voter ID is an incredibly tiny problem. The motivation is suppressing the votes of minorities, and that is all there is to it. Indeed, indeed! MSNBC, the Washington Post, and Brian Williams all say the same thing. Why, then, are f'ing liberals so against ID's? Don't say 'money', 'cause we both know that's bull****. There are no studies showing significant voter fraud based upon false IDs. It's a canard conservatrash use to keep down the vote of voters who won't vote for conservative candidates. Weasel out of answering the questions, then call names. You're so f'ing predictable. I didn't weasel out of anything. My understanding of the problem is that a lot of lower income folks simply don't have the sort of photo ID the conservatrashers want, and it would be a major hassle for many of them to get one. We all know the right-wing motivation for this...it's to restrict voting on the part of lower income and minority groups. It's not fraud...that's just the excuse the conservatrashers are using. BTW, conservatrash is not name calling. It's truth-telling. Most of today's conservatives are nothing more than trash, and you're a perfect example. My daughter doesn't drive so she went to get her ID when she turned 18 a few weeks back. Took her all of ten minutes at one of the several MVD offices around the state. They even had folks there ready to help non speakers... That doesn't mean it is as easy for the majority of folks who need a photo ID. And how did your non-driving daughter get to the MVD? And why doesn't she drive? It doesn't matter why she doesn't drive. The fact remains that it is not difficult to obtain a government issued photo identification, as long as you are legally in the USA. If you aren't here legally you don't need a government issued photo identification unless it comes from ICE or a prison. Exactly my point. I don't have a birth certificate, she doesn't have a drivers license and we both have picture ID's suitable to vote in any state. Really? I can only vote in my precinct. How do you get the right to vote anywhere in the U.S.? |
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The only way Republicans can win
On 3/31/2012 8:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 3/30/2012 6:59 PM, BAR wrote: In , dump-on- says... On 3/30/12 9:15 AM, JustWait wrote: On 3/30/2012 8:53 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 3/30/12 8:43 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:57:56 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 7:09 AM, Happy John wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:32:24 -0400, X ` wrote: On 3/30/12 3:40 AM, jps wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:16:03 -0400, wrote: On 3/29/2012 9:09 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:29:21 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:28:36 -0400, wrote: If the TV station can find over a hundred in the city of Ft Myers with their weak assed investigation team it must be more wide spread than you would have us believe. Considering we had a whole presidential election decided by less than 500 Florida votes, I would think you would want more integrity in the system. Hispanics (the majority of our aliens) are more likely to vote GOP than democratic. They tend to be pro life and anti gay. If that were true, there's no friggin' way the Republican legislature in Floriduh would've passed the law. You can vote with a Sams club card. You can pretty much eliminate anybody who thinks voter id is not important, from any logical discussion involving your rights. These are the same folks who believe the Constitution is a "living, evolving document"... Oh, and you cannot admit that many of these laws are passed by Republicans knowing that they're suppressing the voter of people who are poor and likely to vote Democratic? If so, stop fooling yourself. Voting fraud is an infinitesimally small problem that has nothing to do with these laws. It's ginned up bull****. Indeed, there are national statistics indicating fraud based on false voter ID is an incredibly tiny problem. The motivation is suppressing the votes of minorities, and that is all there is to it. Indeed, indeed! MSNBC, the Washington Post, and Brian Williams all say the same thing. Why, then, are f'ing liberals so against ID's? Don't say 'money', 'cause we both know that's bull****. There are no studies showing significant voter fraud based upon false IDs. It's a canard conservatrash use to keep down the vote of voters who won't vote for conservative candidates. Weasel out of answering the questions, then call names. You're so f'ing predictable. I didn't weasel out of anything. My understanding of the problem is that a lot of lower income folks simply don't have the sort of photo ID the conservatrashers want, and it would be a major hassle for many of them to get one. We all know the right-wing motivation for this...it's to restrict voting on the part of lower income and minority groups. It's not fraud...that's just the excuse the conservatrashers are using. BTW, conservatrash is not name calling. It's truth-telling. Most of today's conservatives are nothing more than trash, and you're a perfect example. My daughter doesn't drive so she went to get her ID when she turned 18 a few weeks back. Took her all of ten minutes at one of the several MVD offices around the state. They even had folks there ready to help non speakers... That doesn't mean it is as easy for the majority of folks who need a photo ID. And how did your non-driving daughter get to the MVD? And why doesn't she drive? It doesn't matter why she doesn't drive. The fact remains that it is not difficult to obtain a government issued photo identification, as long as you are legally in the USA. If you aren't here legally you don't need a government issued photo identification unless it comes from ICE or a prison. Exactly my point. I don't have a birth certificate, she doesn't have a drivers license and we both have picture ID's suitable to vote in any state. Really? I can only vote in my precinct. How do you get the right to vote anywhere in the U.S.? He probably isn't tethered with an ankle braclet. What's the range on yours? -- http://tinyurl.com/75bq9db |
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