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On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:39:57 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:20:57 -0400, Happy John
wrote:

Where's that? A new guy down the block is into RC. Has some gorgeous airplanes - the biggest with
about a 6' wingspan, but can't find a place around DC that allows flying. Even the military bases
have pretty much closed it down.

===

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

On 3/13/2012 8:46 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:39:57 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:20:57 -0400, Happy
wrote:

Where's that? A new guy down the block is into RC. Has some gorgeous airplanes - the biggest with
about a 6' wingspan, but can't find a place around DC that allows flying. Even the military bases
have pretty much closed it down.

===

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

Yeah, the club I went to in 'Bama was on an abandoned airfield.

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy John
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:56:50 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy John
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Not really, Wayne. That's a pretty common misconception among the public, but I've been modeling off and on for 35+ years, and flying RC for the last 12 years. An RC airplane or helicopter's ability to deliver a payload is pretty limited, both in weight and in range. There are far more effective, easier and cheaper ways to accomplish what you're alluding to.

The best use of RC technology for nefarious purposes is video surveillance using a helicopter.

Oh, and High Power Rocketry, and the availability of those motors to the "public" is another one of those hobbies that get a bad rap. Opponents want to shut it down, claiming that they can be used to target an airplane, but that's highly unlikely to be successful. The military experimented with unguided rockets, and they never got close to a hit. Guided of course stand a much better chance, but by the time you've developed the technology, you could also develop your own motors, etc. There are obviously far easier methods, as we've seen very clearly over the last few years, unfortunately.

These things are just hobbies that some people with over-active imaginations think might be used for evil. That kind of thinking leads to (has already led to) restricting the RC and Rocketry hobbies. It's completely ridiculous.

/soapbox off/ :-)

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

On 3/14/2012 9:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:56:50 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Not really, Wayne. That's a pretty common misconception among the public, but I've been modeling off and on for 35+ years, and flying RC for the last 12 years. An RC airplane or helicopter's ability to deliver a payload is pretty limited, both in weight and in range. There are far more effective, easier and cheaper ways to accomplish what you're alluding to.

The best use of RC technology for nefarious purposes is video surveillance using a helicopter.

Oh, and High Power Rocketry, and the availability of those motors to the "public" is another one of those hobbies that get a bad rap. Opponents want to shut it down, claiming that they can be used to target an airplane, but that's highly unlikely to be successful. The military experimented with unguided rockets, and they never got close to a hit. Guided of course stand a much better chance, but by the time you've developed the technology, you could also develop your own motors, etc. There are obviously far easier methods, as we've seen very clearly over the last few years, unfortunately.

These things are just hobbies that some people with over-active imaginations think might be used for evil. That kind of thinking leads to (has already led to) restricting the RC and Rocketry hobbies. It's completely ridiculous.

/soapbox off/ :-)

A lot of it too is the "just for me" progressives who want all open land
for themselves. They hate Horses, bikes, quads, even bicycles if they
can't afford one themselves or don't want to buy one... The scream about
the noise or anything else they can think of. They tried to use the DEP
to shut down our track, saying "someone might spill some oil".. Wow, out
in the middle of nowhere, a drop of oil!? They just like walking down
there by the river, don't want to share any of the land with the bikes...

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

On 3/14/12 9:56 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/14/2012 9:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:56:50 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Not really, Wayne. That's a pretty common misconception among the
public, but I've been modeling off and on for 35+ years, and flying RC
for the last 12 years. An RC airplane or helicopter's ability to
deliver a payload is pretty limited, both in weight and in range.
There are far more effective, easier and cheaper ways to accomplish
what you're alluding to.

The best use of RC technology for nefarious purposes is video
surveillance using a helicopter.

Oh, and High Power Rocketry, and the availability of those motors to
the "public" is another one of those hobbies that get a bad rap.
Opponents want to shut it down, claiming that they can be used to
target an airplane, but that's highly unlikely to be successful. The
military experimented with unguided rockets, and they never got close
to a hit. Guided of course stand a much better chance, but by the time
you've developed the technology, you could also develop your own
motors, etc. There are obviously far easier methods, as we've seen
very clearly over the last few years, unfortunately.

These things are just hobbies that some people with over-active
imaginations think might be used for evil. That kind of thinking leads
to (has already led to) restricting the RC and Rocketry hobbies. It's
completely ridiculous.

/soapbox off/ :-)

A lot of it too is the "just for me" progressives who want all open land
for themselves. They hate Horses, bikes, quads, even bicycles if they
can't afford one themselves or don't want to buy one... The scream about
the noise or anything else they can think of. They tried to use the DEP
to shut down our track, saying "someone might spill some oil".. Wow, out
in the middle of nowhere, a drop of oil!? They just like walking down
there by the river, don't want to share any of the land with the bikes...


Yeah, I suppose some people don't like the mudhole you fellas create,
along with the oil leaking into the water table, and the noise, and the
trash...

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

In article 22882974.3759.1331731749391.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@vbtf26, says...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:56:50 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy John
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Not really, Wayne. That's a pretty common misconception among the public, but I've been modeling off and on for 35+ years, and flying RC for the last 12 years. An RC airplane or helicopter's ability to deliver a payload is pretty limited, both in weight and in range. There are far more effective, easier and cheaper ways to accomplish what you're alluding to.

The best use of RC technology for nefarious purposes is video surveillance using a helicopter.

Oh, and High Power Rocketry, and the availability of those motors to the "public" is another one of those hobbies that get a bad rap. Opponents want to shut it down, claiming that they can be used to target an airplane, but that's highly unlikely to be successful. The military experimented with unguided rockets, and they never got close to a hit. Guided of course stand a much better chance, but by the time you've developed the technology, you could also develop your
own motors, etc. There are obviously far easier methods, as we've seen very clearly over the last few years, unfortunately.

These things are just hobbies that some people with over-active imaginations think might be used for evil. That kind of thinking leads to (has already led to) restricting the RC and Rocketry hobbies. It's completely ridiculous.

/soapbox off/ :-)

I dabbled in R/C planes, but with mixed results! I never really got the
hang of bringing the plane back because everything is backwards then! I
could go outbound nicely, but coming back was hell!

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

In article , says...

On 3/14/2012 9:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:56:50 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Not really, Wayne. That's a pretty common misconception among the public, but I've been modeling off and on for 35+ years, and flying RC for the last 12 years. An RC airplane or helicopter's ability to deliver a payload is pretty limited, both in weight and in range. There are far more effective, easier and cheaper ways to accomplish what you're alluding to.

The best use of RC technology for nefarious purposes is video surveillance using a helicopter.

Oh, and High Power Rocketry, and the availability of those motors to the "public" is another one of those hobbies that get a bad rap. Opponents want to shut it down, claiming that they can be used to target an airplane, but that's highly unlikely to be successful. The military experimented with unguided rockets, and they never got close to a hit. Guided of course stand a much better chance, but by the time you've developed the technology, you could also develop
your own motors, etc. There are obviously far easier methods, as we've seen very clearly over the last few years, unfortunately.

These things are just hobbies that some people with over-active imaginations think might be used for evil. That kind of thinking leads to (has already led to) restricting the RC and Rocketry hobbies. It's completely ridiculous.

/soapbox off/ :-)

A lot of it too is the "just for me" progressives who want all open land
for themselves. They hate Horses, bikes, quads, even bicycles if they
can't afford one themselves or don't want to buy one... The scream about
the noise or anything else they can think of. They tried to use the DEP
to shut down our track, saying "someone might spill some oil".. Wow, out
in the middle of nowhere, a drop of oil!? They just like walking down
there by the river, don't want to share any of the land with the bikes...

Oh, good God......

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:56:10 -0400, JustWait wrote:

On 3/14/2012 9:29 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:56:50 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Not really, Wayne. That's a pretty common misconception among the public, but I've been modeling off and on for 35+ years, and flying RC for the last 12 years. An RC airplane or helicopter's ability to deliver a payload is pretty limited, both in weight and in range. There are far more effective, easier and cheaper ways to accomplish what you're alluding to.

The best use of RC technology for nefarious purposes is video surveillance using a helicopter.

Oh, and High Power Rocketry, and the availability of those motors to the "public" is another one of those hobbies that get a bad rap. Opponents want to shut it down, claiming that they can be used to target an airplane, but that's highly unlikely to be successful. The military experimented with unguided rockets, and they never got close to a hit. Guided of course stand a much better chance, but by the time you've developed the technology, you could also develop your own motors, etc. There are obviously far easier methods, as we've seen very clearly over the last few years, unfortunately.

These things are just hobbies that some people with over-active imaginations think might be used for evil. That kind of thinking leads to (has already led to) restricting the RC and Rocketry hobbies. It's completely ridiculous.

/soapbox off/ :-)

A lot of it too is the "just for me" progressives who want all open land
for themselves. They hate Horses, bikes, quads, even bicycles if they
can't afford one themselves or don't want to buy one... The scream about
the noise or anything else they can think of. They tried to use the DEP
to shut down our track, saying "someone might spill some oil".. Wow, out
in the middle of nowhere, a drop of oil!? They just like walking down
there by the river, don't want to share any of the land with the bikes...

Make it political. Unreal.

Boeing engineers and lawnmowers
 

On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:27:53 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 22882974.3759.1331731749391.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@vbtf26, says...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:56:50 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:46:33 -0400, Happy John
wrote:

Down here in SWFL we've actually got an R/C "Air Park" up on the north
end of town. They fly all sorts of stuff there including jets.

They used to be very common at military bases, but not so much anymore.

===

Given the high state of today's technology, there's a lot of potential
for criminality of various sorts with an R/C model.

Not really, Wayne. That's a pretty common misconception among the public, but I've been modeling off and on for 35+ years, and flying RC for the last 12 years. An RC airplane or helicopter's ability to deliver a payload is pretty limited, both in weight and in range. There are far more effective, easier and cheaper ways to accomplish what you're alluding to.

The best use of RC technology for nefarious purposes is video surveillance using a helicopter.

Oh, and High Power Rocketry, and the availability of those motors to the "public" is another one of those hobbies that get a bad rap. Opponents want to shut it down, claiming that they can be used to target an airplane, but that's highly unlikely to be successful. The military experimented with unguided rockets, and they never got close to a hit. Guided of course stand a much better chance, but by the time you've developed the technology, you could also develop your
own motors, etc. There are obviously far easier methods, as we've seen very clearly over the last few years, unfortunately.

These things are just hobbies that some people with over-active imaginations think might be used for evil. That kind of thinking leads to (has already led to) restricting the RC and Rocketry hobbies. It's completely ridiculous.

/soapbox off/ :-)

I dabbled in R/C planes, but with mixed results! I never really got the
hang of bringing the plane back because everything is backwards then! I
could go outbound nicely, but coming back was hell!

That's the way it is in the real world also.