http://www.stardem.com/business/arti...939e2d2e6.html


Looks l really simple too. I wonder how it will handle rough wear 'n
tear?

On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:59:28 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

http://www.stardem.com/business/arti...939e2d2e6.html


Looks l really simple too. I wonder how it will handle rough wear 'n
tear?

Looks like a pretty good idea!

On Jan 16, 10:42*am, Happy John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:59:28 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
http://www.stardem.com/business/arti...e36-aa8f-9d293...

Looks l really simple too. I wonder how it will handle rough wear 'n
tear?

Looks like a pretty good idea!

If it stands up to the rigors of a life in the sal****er of the
oceans..... it might work out.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:45:01 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:

On Jan 16, 10:42*am, Happy John wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:59:28 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
http://www.stardem.com/business/arti...e36-aa8f-9d293...

Looks l really simple too. I wonder how it will handle rough wear 'n
tear?

Looks like a pretty good idea!

If it stands up to the rigors of a life in the sal****er of the
oceans..... it might work out.

===

Yes, and that's a very big "if". Moorings are exposed to the
elements 24/7 and subject to very high shock loads during storms.

We've been seeing more of a better system in recent years where the
mooring buoy has a bowl shaped appendage on the top where you can coil
the mooring lines as you drop them. That keeps the lines out of the
water without introducing any complexity, moving parts or weak links.

On Jan 16, 6:19*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 1/16/12 5:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:





On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:42:11 -0800 (PST), North Star
*wrote:

I have never used a mooring buoy but I assumed they just had an eye on
top and you brought over your own line.
Why is there a line there at all?

In a rough sea, a mooring line is alot easier to pick up with your
boat hook......especially if your boat has a generous freeboard.

===

Yes, exactly right.

When the wind is blowing hard and/or there is a lot of current,
picking up a mooring without a line is very difficult.

When I was a kid and we were at the beach for the summer, we kept our
boats on buoys and mushroom anchors about 200 feet beyond the low tide
sandbars. I usually had so much wax on the mahogany deck of my little
runabout that when I crawled out on it to hook it up to the buoy and
pull over the canvas cover, the cover and I would slide off into Long
Island Sound. Usually the water wasn't rough enough to make attaching a
line to the buoy difficult. Small boats, relatively sheltered waters.

The buoys usually were stainless steel beer barrels. My dad would cut a
hole in each end and thread through a rod and weld the rod to the barrel
and then weld a donut shaped fitting to each end of the rod. We'd paint
the barrels with copper bottom paint.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This type seems popular at the yacht clubs around here.
I believe they use a galvanized shackle to attach the heavy chain and
the mooring line.
http://ca.binnacle.com/Docking-and-M...duct_info.html

On 1/16/2012 3:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:42:39 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:45:01 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:

On Jan 16, 10:42 am, Happy wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:59:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:
http://www.stardem.com/business/arti...e36-aa8f-9d293...

Looks l really simple too. I wonder how it will handle rough wear 'n
tear?

Looks like a pretty good idea!

If it stands up to the rigors of a life in the sal****er of the
oceans..... it might work out.

===

Yes, and that's a very big "if". Moorings are exposed to the
elements 24/7 and subject to very high shock loads during storms.

We've been seeing more of a better system in recent years where the
mooring buoy has a bowl shaped appendage on the top where you can coil
the mooring lines as you drop them. That keeps the lines out of the
water without introducing any complexity, moving parts or weak links.

I have never used a mooring buoy but I assumed they just had an eye on
top and you brought over your own line.
Why is there a line there at all?

So you can use a stick to pick it up out of the water and bring it up to
your bow. Not everybodys bow is a foot and a half above the water like
yours How would you expect somebody 8 feet off the water to hook to
the top of a bouy?

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:04:35 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

How would you expect somebody 8 feet off the water to hook to
the top of a bouy?

===

My wife is always asking questions like that as we make yet another
approach... :-)

Here's a mooring buoy that has a recess on top:

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=55999&nobot_crawl

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 1/16/12 5:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:42:11 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:

I have never used a mooring buoy but I assumed they just had an eye on
top and you brought over your own line.
Why is there a line there at all?

In a rough sea, a mooring line is alot easier to pick up with your
boat hook......especially if your boat has a generous freeboard.

===

Yes, exactly right.

When the wind is blowing hard and/or there is a lot of current,
picking up a mooring without a line is very difficult.


When I was a kid and we were at the beach for the summer, we kept our
boats on buoys and mushroom anchors about 200 feet beyond the low tide
sandbars. I usually had so much wax on the mahogany deck of my little
runabout that when I crawled out on it to hook it up to the buoy and
pull over the canvas cover, the cover and I would slide off into Long
Island Sound. Usually the water wasn't rough enough to make attaching a
line to the buoy difficult. Small boats, relatively sheltered waters.

The buoys usually were stainless steel beer barrels. My dad would cut a
hole in each end and thread through a rod and weld the rod to the barrel
and then weld a donut shaped fitting to each end of the rod. We'd paint
the barrels with copper bottom paint.

He welded carbon steel rod to a stainless steel beer barrel? Back in
those days, I take it it was either arc welded or acetylene right?

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:04:35 -0500, JustWait wrote:

On 1/16/2012 3:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:42:39 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:45:01 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:

On Jan 16, 10:42 am, Happy wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:59:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:
http://www.stardem.com/business/arti...e36-aa8f-9d293...

Looks l really simple too. I wonder how it will handle rough wear 'n
tear?

Looks like a pretty good idea!

If it stands up to the rigors of a life in the sal****er of the
oceans..... it might work out.

===

Yes, and that's a very big "if". Moorings are exposed to the
elements 24/7 and subject to very high shock loads during storms.

We've been seeing more of a better system in recent years where the
mooring buoy has a bowl shaped appendage on the top where you can coil
the mooring lines as you drop them. That keeps the lines out of the
water without introducing any complexity, moving parts or weak links.

I have never used a mooring buoy but I assumed they just had an eye on
top and you brought over your own line.
Why is there a line there at all?

So you can use a stick to pick it up out of the water and bring it up to
your bow. Not everybodys bow is a foot and a half above the water like
yours How would you expect somebody 8 feet off the water to hook to
the top of a bouy?

Nine-foot pole?

On 1/17/2012 8:46 AM, Happy John wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:04:35 -0500, wrote:

On 1/16/2012 3:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:42:39 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 07:45:01 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:

On Jan 16, 10:42 am, Happy wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:59:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:
http://www.stardem.com/business/arti...e36-aa8f-9d293...

Looks l really simple too. I wonder how it will handle rough wear 'n
tear?

Looks like a pretty good idea!

If it stands up to the rigors of a life in the sal****er of the
oceans..... it might work out.

===

Yes, and that's a very big "if". Moorings are exposed to the
elements 24/7 and subject to very high shock loads during storms.

We've been seeing more of a better system in recent years where the
mooring buoy has a bowl shaped appendage on the top where you can coil
the mooring lines as you drop them. That keeps the lines out of the
water without introducing any complexity, moving parts or weak links.

I have never used a mooring buoy but I assumed they just had an eye on
top and you brought over your own line.
Why is there a line there at all?

So you can use a stick to pick it up out of the water and bring it up to
your bow. Not everybodys bow is a foot and a half above the water like
yours How would you expect somebody 8 feet off the water to hook to
the top of a bouy?

Nine-foot pole?

Yes, but I would rather reach for a rope with the pole, than a hook on a
bouy.