Boating on a budget? That's for me!
 

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:49:36 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

Somewhere between 62K and 81K.

http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/html/dcb.asp

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:29:09 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 05/01/2012 5:36 AM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:09:04 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:30:06 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ing-affordable

“Boats are a great investment for a family because it’s a way to
socialize and spend time together,” says Ellen Hopkins, a spokes*woman
for Discover Boating. “A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing — it’s a unique way to bond. It’s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.”

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.

So does the marginal cost per pound of the fish you catch.

Who cares?

Bad day fishing beats a good day at work.

Hearing the loons at sunset priceless peace and nature.

Well, obviously the owners of boats who are recreational fishermen are like the honey badger - they
don't give a **** how much it costs!

I can't argue with your last two lines at all. I've got to learn how to fish Lake Anna down here in
Virginia. People are catching the hell out of rockfish (striped bass, stripers, etc.). The hard part
is the drive down and back - 162 miles round trip.

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:07:01 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:36:19 -0500, Happy John
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.

So does the marginal cost per pound of the fish you catch.

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Yes but I don't measure fish caught "by the pound" although it might
be an interesting number. I've finally gotten my cost "per fish"
down close to the 4 digit range.

Usually I don't either. But, the first fish I caught with the $25K Proline was an expensive bugger.
It probably weighed about ten pounds, which made it much more costly than Safeway was getting for
rockfish. Four digits sounds about right - if I count croaker too.

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On Jan 5, 2:24*pm, Canuck57 wrote:


For me, it makes no sense to own. *Being in southern Alberta, no real
decent lakes (there are a few but crowded) it saves me dragging it all over.
--

But that's one of the beauties of a smaller trailer boat. It's paid
for, doesn't eat much, can be hooked to an any or no given notice, and
even head for a small lake 25 mi away (Omega Lake), run what you brung
and go home. No appointments, no real travel time, no hassles.

Kinda nice in the middle of the summer to drag the boat to work (4 mi)
the at 5, head for the lake, boat/relax for about 2-21/2 hrs, and be
home by 9pm right when the sun is down. did that 2-3 times a week a
couple years ago.

Sometimes it was just the boat, a life vest and a cold bottle of
water., and me of course.

very peaceful

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


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Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR was
$95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week. Very good
pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant head nurse for
the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an apprentice
forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My stepfather was a
college Prof. and made about $16k a year.

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:26:42 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

In this area and elsewhere, there are boat timeshare operations. The
dealer from whom I bought my Parkers is part of a national operation of
such. I asked my salesman there about it once, and was surprised at how
expensive it was. Of course, they send you out in new Gradys and
Parkers. But it still cheaper than buying, maintaining and either
trailering or slipping a new boat of similar quality.

I had a friend from work who was a member of one of those boat clubs.
It worked out well for him because he could arrange his work schedule
to get out in the middle of the week. He got a boat just about any
time he wanted it on a week day. You were in a virtual lottery on the
weekend.


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Admin assistant I had at one time, thought $180 for a 1/2 day of bass
fishing with a guide, including tip on Lake Fork, TX was excessive. Cheap
compared to what it costs for me to own and run my boat. And he furnished
the gear, and cleaned up at the end of the day. I would fish a 1/2 day with
him, which was a very generous 1/2 day and then drive to DFW to catch a
flight home. Was nice that way to go to Dallas for business meetings. Stay
in a $170 / day room for business and then grab a nice $50 room in Alba for
a night. Company paid for the car rental anyways.

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On Jan 5, 11:24*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:24*pm, Canuck57 wrote:



For me, it makes no sense to own. *Being in southern Alberta, no real
decent lakes (there are a few but crowded) it saves me dragging it all over.
--

But that's one of the beauties of a smaller trailer boat. It's paid
for, doesn't eat much, can be hooked to an any or no given notice, and
even head for a small lake 25 mi away (Omega Lake), run what you brung
and go home. No appointments, no real travel time, no hassles.

Kinda nice in the middle of the summer to drag the boat to work (4 mi)
the at 5, head for the lake, boat/relax for about 2-21/2 hrs, and be
home by 9pm right when the sun is down. *did that 2-3 times a week a
couple years ago.

Sometimes it was just the boat, a life vest and a cold bottle of
water., and me *of course.

very peaceful

! agree!
A trailerable boat is a great way to go. Sure saves a lot in yacht
club fees and you can boat in a much larger area without long ocean
voyages. The trick is to figure out what size boat is practical for
both small/medium lakes and coastal ocean waters.

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On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life.

Boating on a budget? That's for me!
 

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 04:54:51 -0800 (PST), North Star
wrote:

The trick is to figure out what size boat is practical for
both small/medium lakes and coastal ocean waters.

===

A 24 ft I/O with a small cuddy cabin works well for that in my
experience. You need a truck or large SUV for towing however.

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On 1/6/2012 9:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 12:02 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:06:48 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 1/5/12 12:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:58:33 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I don't know what the average paycheck was back then.

In the 50s my father made about $5,000-6000 a year as a GS11 in the
government
That GS11 is probably about 12x that now and gas is 17x

In 1963, at a summer job through the Teamsters, I was earning about
$7.00 an hour loading skids of razor blades and shaving cream onto
semi-truck trailers. It was a semi-skilled job (I ran a forklift), so
probably paid below the "average" paycheck in those days. It was higher
than many of the workers at the factory, but lower than the guys who set
up and maintained the machinery. Shick used to sell us packages of
blades for a nickel each...that sure deterred theft. I'd load up before
the semester started and then resell the blades on campus for half the
price at the local markets. :) I also sold and delivered doughnuts,
picked up drycleaning and delivered pizzas, though not all at the same
time. College was cheap back then and it was not difficult to pay most
of your own expenses.

I was a Teamster in 1963, making a third of that. You must had a
heluva contract. I was only making $2.50 an hour at IBM in 1966


=============================
Seems like Harry raked in the money. 1964 in school apprentice for NCR
was $95 a week. When I graduated 36 weeks school I made $120 a week.
Very good pay. My girlfriend at the time was an RN and and assistant
head nurse for the orthopedic floor and made $376 a month. Me thinks an
apprentice forklift driver was making a lot less than $210 / week. My
stepfather was a college Prof. and made about $16k a year.
If you want to be the best at everything you need to start early in life.

There is no way he was making 7 an hour running a forklift in 1963...
sorry... My dad was also a Teamster in 63, in a warehouse, running a
forklift, had been with the union nearly 20 years, had seniority, and
probably made about 1.50-2.00 per hour at the most.