On Jan 4, 9:43*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 6:21 PM, Tim wrote:









On Jan 4, 12:16 pm, *wrote:
"X ` Man" *wrote in ...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:

In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" *wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
, says....

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.

---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. *Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1

In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.

------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be
nice. *Lots of books in a very small package.

That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She
loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John
Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which
is usually in a day). *So it was more of an economic and space saving
value to her.

Didn't realize there were so many of these things out there. Went into
Be$t Buy today to get some software and there was a whole section
dedicated to just these pads... Used to be a bunch of laptops there
there, now only pads...

My middle daughter must have one by now, she is known to keep as many as
4-5 books in here purse and be reading most of them at any given time.

My wife is addicted to hers already, now if I find her trying to
attach it to the windshield like her Garmin, that will be the end of
it!

In article d9ed8ca6-24ff-451c-9478-d0bd66d77f76
@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jan 4, 12:16*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"X ` Man" *wrote in ...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:









In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" *wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
, says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.

---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. *Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1

In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.

------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be
nice. *Lots of books in a very small package.

That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She
loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John
Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which
is usually in a day). So it was more of an economic and space saving
value to her.

The only problem is you are always paying hard back prices instead of
the paper back prices.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
, says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.


---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1


In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.


------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be
nice. Lots of books in a very small package.

How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than
packing three or four hardbacks for a trip.

You can check books out from your local library, using your library card
and you have Gutenberg for all of the classics and older books.

In article d9ed8ca6-24ff-451c-9478-d0bd66d77f76
@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jan 4, 12:16*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"X ` Man" *wrote in ...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:









In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" *wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
, says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.

---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. *Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1

In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.

------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be
nice. *Lots of books in a very small package.

That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She
loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John
Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which
is usually in a day). So it was more of an economic and space saving
value to her.

I don't care what anybody says, I wouldn't be without my Kindle for
anything! Scenario: I'm in a coffee shop having a cup of coffee, and
reading a newspaper. Something strikes my interest. I fire up the kindle
and find a resource for information about what I'm interested in. I
COULD get on the web on my Android phone, but I find the screed size too
small.

In article ,
says...

On 1/4/2012 2:53 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, wrote:

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
, says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.


---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1


In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.


------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be
nice. Lots of books in a very small package.

How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than
packing three or four hardbacks for a trip.

Prices vary but$10 seems to be average.

Our library loans Ebooks out for nothing. And there are a lot of
resources for books that are a lot less than $10, even free! But yes,
that is about right for Amazon.

In article 350bcbae-085a-436b-bebc-342245baeb78
@f1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jan 4, 3:36*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 1/4/12 4:32 PM, Oscar wrote:









On 1/4/2012 2:53 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800,
wrote:

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
l-september.org...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
,
says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of
trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.

---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are
unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1

In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.

------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy
can be
nice. Lots of books in a very small package.

How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a
Kindle would be a lot easier than
packing three or four hardbacks for a trip.

Prices vary but$10 seems to be average.

There also are lots and lots of "classic" books you can download for no
cost. And to get us on topic, Moby-Dick is one of them.

I wonder if you can download a Mercruiser Alpha-1 repair manual to one?

Yes!

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 07:17:55 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
, says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.


---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1


In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.


------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be
nice. Lots of books in a very small package.

How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle would be a lot easier than
packing three or four hardbacks for a trip.

You can check books out from your local library, using your library card
and you have Gutenberg for all of the classics and older books.


I know. I use my library extensively. That's my point...one Kindle would take up much less room in a
bag than a bunch of library books.

In article ,
says...

In article d9ed8ca6-24ff-451c-9478-d0bd66d77f76
@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jan 4, 12:16*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"X ` Man" *wrote in ...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:









In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" *wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
, says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.

---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. *Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1

In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.

------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy can be
nice. *Lots of books in a very small package.

That's it. My wife is a very fast reader with high comprehension. She
loves to read paper books, but is tired of buying the latest John
Grisham novel etc. Then giving them away after she's read them (which
is usually in a day). So it was more of an economic and space saving
value to her.

I don't care what anybody says, I wouldn't be without my Kindle for
anything! Scenario: I'm in a coffee shop having a cup of coffee, and
reading a newspaper. Something strikes my interest. I fire up the kindle
and find a resource for information about what I'm interested in. I
COULD get on the web on my Android phone, but I find the screed size too
small.

Why aren't you reading your newspaper on your Kindle?

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:23:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


And to get us on topic, Moby-Dick is one of them.

An STD?


I wonder if you can download a Mercruiser Alpha-1 repair manual to one?

Not sure if Kindle supports PDFs but I think there's a good chance.
Scanning a document to PDF format is easy.


----------------------------------------------------------------
Lots of free online story sites. And lots of self published material now.
The author nets bigger money from the sale at a buck or so than from a
paperback deal.

"Happy John" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 07:17:55 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:16:36 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"X ` Man" wrote in message
...

On 1/4/12 7:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlen4qdnWVayYC6LJ7SnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article2416497b-bbdc-4f17-86a6-
,
says...

I know nothing about them, but my wife want's one [and I get to pay
for it]. What are the advantages [or not] over a Xume, iPhone, and a
host of other lightning technology talkie gadgets out there?

The fire can be used like a tablet, but they're having a lot of
trouble
with them crashing, etc. Amazon is already sending out firmware and
software updates for them.


---------------------------------------------
I understand that some book files downloaded to the Fire are
unreadable
but
are able to be read on the earlier Kindles. Sounds like a few bugs
needed
to be fixed before being released.

Kindle Fire Mod 1


In the end, we're all beta testers. I still like "book" books. Maybe it
is generational. Years and years ago, I sent a girl buddy the one volume
set of the complete novels of Jane Austen. She passed that book down to
her daughter, and she recently emailed me that her granddaughter was now
working her way through the book. It's hard to imagine that being done
with an "electronic" book. There's something about turning pages,
turning down corners of pages, writing notes in the margins, the leather
binding on a good volume...that I still find appealing.


------------------------------------------------
I read most of my books via paper, but for travel, an electronic copy
can be
nice. Lots of books in a very small package.

How much do the books cost to download. I can see where carrying a Kindle
would be a lot easier than
packing three or four hardbacks for a trip.

You can check books out from your local library, using your library card
and you have Gutenberg for all of the classics and older books.


I know. I use my library extensively. That's my point...one Kindle would
take up much less room in a
bag than a bunch of library books.


------------------------------------
and save the overdue charges. For travel a lot of times I buy used paper
backs and leave them at the airport or hotel when I finish them.