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33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/30/2011 9:06 PM, X ` Man wrote:
Bull****. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Are you ever going to stop the bull****? |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/30/2011 7:08 PM, X ` Man wrote:
I offered wayne a quid pro quo. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. No you didn't |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/31/2011 8:17 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Imagine Mr. Dr. Karen Grear of Catholic University of America not acting like a stalker pedophile? I can't, can you?? |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
In article ,
says... On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Harry says while being as uncivilized as a Neanderthal. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/31/2011 8:17 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Obviously, the fishing is pretty good. Wayne is a whole lot smarter than you give him credit for. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/31/11 11:22 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 12/31/2011 8:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Obviously, the fishing is pretty good. Wayne is a whole lot smarter than you give him credit for. D'oh. You're not in a position to know. I think Wayne is a bright guy. Wayne and I disagree on the direction corporations have taken this country and on other issues, but that doesn't mean I think he is dimwitted. Quite the contrary. There are a few bright posters here whose politics differ from mine. You aren't among them. Further, I am sure you will be behaving as badly in 2012 as you have to date, no matter what your new handle is. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Dec 31, 9:17*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` *wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, * wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. * * * *Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? * * * *We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. * * * *Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline.. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? *:) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If anyone is dumb enough to take you up on that bet I want a piece of the action. Speaking of dumb... I wonder if Kevin wants to bet $500.00? |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/31/2011 11:42 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/31/11 11:22 AM, Oscar wrote: On 12/31/2011 8:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Obviously, the fishing is pretty good. Wayne is a whole lot smarter than you give him credit for. D'oh. You're not in a position to know. I think Wayne is a bright guy. Wayne and I disagree on the direction corporations have taken this country and on other issues, but that doesn't mean I think he is dimwitted. Quite the contrary. There are a few bright posters here whose politics differ from mine. You aren't among them. Further, I am sure you will be behaving as badly in 2012 as you have to date, no matter what your new handle is. You have turned into a crashing boor in your old age. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 12/31/11 11:49 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 12/31/2011 11:42 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/31/11 11:22 AM, Oscar wrote: On 12/31/2011 8:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Obviously, the fishing is pretty good. Wayne is a whole lot smarter than you give him credit for. D'oh. You're not in a position to know. I think Wayne is a bright guy. Wayne and I disagree on the direction corporations have taken this country and on other issues, but that doesn't mean I think he is dimwitted. Quite the contrary. There are a few bright posters here whose politics differ from mine. You aren't among them. Further, I am sure you will be behaving as badly in 2012 as you have to date, no matter what your new handle is. You have turned into a crashing boor in your old age. More likely, I'm not that interested in engaging you in badinage. You're not very bright, you're right-wing trash, and I'm sure your wife, if you have one, dresses you funny. As I stated, I'm sure your behavior here will not improve in 2012. You are a perfect playmate for iSnotty and iLoogy. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. |
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On 12/31/2011 11:52 AM, X ` Man wrote:
More likely, I'm not that interested in engaging you in badinage. You're not very bright, you're right-wing trash, and I'm sure your wife, if you have one, dresses you funny. As I stated, I'm sure your behavior here will not improve in 2012. You are a perfect playmate for iSnotty and iLoogy. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. When are you going to lose the stupid sig lines that you think are so clever? I was never interested in bandying about anything with you. Your views are so far off the wall, only Plume can appreciate them. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:50:32 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:49:52 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: I wonder why there are few licenses required to own high powered boats. === The law of the sea has its' own way of adjudicating things. Well said. I prefer good seamanship and experience to a piece of paper any day. Hopefully people will learn about seamanship, only boat within their abilities and they will learn about survival at sea.. The sea can take the rest of them. Crabs gotta eat too. In about 1975, we had to locate a valve on a pipeline on the sea floor in the Gulf of Mexico. This was pre GPS days. The survey boat came in, did their electronic gizmo stuff, and steered straight on a heading. Along the way, when they got to a certain point, they threw off five cane pole buoys with flags atop them. They ran a perpendicular route to those flags, and dropped five more, intersecting the previous five. We dove on the site, and found the valve on the second dive. No horizon in sight, about 80 miles out. We were impressed. That same night, they ran into an unmanned platform, and nearly sank. Never heard the whole story, but I bet someone was stoned, or in an altered state of consciousness. They could find a needle in a haystack, yet ran into a stationary steel platform. Go figger. Steve |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
Oscar wrote:
On 12/31/2011 11:52 AM, X ` Man wrote: More likely, I'm not that interested in engaging you in badinage. You're not very bright, you're right-wing trash, and I'm sure your wife, if you have one, dresses you funny. As I stated, I'm sure your behavior here will not improve in 2012. You are a perfect playmate for iSnotty and iLoogy. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. When are you going to lose the stupid sig lines that you think are so clever? I was never interested in bandying about anything with you. Your views are so far off the wall, only Plume can appreciate them. He *is* Plume. -HB |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:40:17 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote: In about 1975, we had to locate a valve on a pipeline on the sea floor in the Gulf of Mexico. This was pre GPS days. The survey boat came in, did their electronic gizmo stuff, and steered straight on a heading. Along the way, when they got to a certain point, they threw off five cane pole buoys with flags atop them. They ran a perpendicular route to those flags, and dropped five more, intersecting the previous five. We dove on the site, and found the valve on the second dive. No horizon in sight, about 80 miles out. We were impressed. That same night, they ran into an unmanned platform, and nearly sank. Never heard the whole story, but I bet someone was stoned, or in an altered state of consciousness. They could find a needle in a haystack, yet ran into a stationary steel platform. Go figger. === I'd figger that it should have shown up on both charts and radar. The law of the sea has its' own way of adjudicating things. And sometimes there's just bad luck, which you're expected to prepare for and act accordingly. For all of its charm, the sea just doesn't care. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
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33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
In article , dump-on-
says... On 12/31/11 11:22 AM, Oscar wrote: On 12/31/2011 8:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Obviously, the fishing is pretty good. Wayne is a whole lot smarter than you give him credit for. D'oh. You're not in a position to know. I think Wayne is a bright guy. Wayne and I disagree on the direction corporations have taken this country and on other issues, but that doesn't mean I think he is dimwitted. Quite the contrary. There are a few bright posters here whose politics differ from mine. You aren't among them. Further, I am sure you will be behaving as badly in 2012 as you have to date, no matter what your new handle is. As will you, coward. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
In article , dump-on-
says... On 12/31/11 11:49 AM, Oscar wrote: On 12/31/2011 11:42 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/31/11 11:22 AM, Oscar wrote: On 12/31/2011 8:17 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 12/30/11 9:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:36:45 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:10:25 -0500, X ` wrote: On 12/30/11 6:39 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:09:14 -0500, Happy wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:55:43 -0500, wrote: On 12/30/2011 6:59 AM, X ` Man wrote: Ahh, then here's a deal you won't be able to resist. Beginning Sunday, day one of 2012, I'll refrain from what I perceive as violating your "rules of decency," so long as you refrain from attempting to insult me or my family members directly or indirectly *and* you continuously castigate all of those who continue to "violate the rules of decency, good will and common sense." The *and* is important. If you accept the "deal," I suspect you'll be very busy here. If you don't accept the deal, you'll just be proving your hypocrisy. That's the deal. Take it or leave it. -- Hate women? Hate the idea of women having sex? Vote Republican, and join in the GOP's unhinged attacks on Planned Parenthood, the HPV vaccine, and insurance coverage of contraception. Can we assume that you will drop your inflammatory sig lines as well? Why not extend the invitation to everyone; but first you need to change the wording to include everyone instead of just you and your family member. Also, I do have a problem with "what I perceive". Can you change that so that we can all play this game on a "level playing field"? We know you like to carefully word things so that you can avail yourself of loopholes, insinuations, ambiguous and misleading descriptors.And you write deals to give yourself unfair advantage. After all, isn't that part of liberal arts training? I believe I read that somewhere in a synopsis. Anything you are willing to do to help stem this downward spiral in rec.boats would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much, Oscar I've been trying to get such a deal from him for years. Hope he sticks to the spirit of his 'deal', and not just the letter. You're never going to get that "deal" because all of your anti-Harry buddies won't let it go. Harry's dying to get them going again and they ALWAYS make it easy for him to do just that. If you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the posting history. Every year, SSDD. 1. It is true "they" can't let it go. I've been "away" from rec.boats and not posting at all for a couple of weeks at a time now and then, and the morons continue their juvenile games. These boys have nothing else going in their lives so to suddenly stop their bad boy behavior here would leave them with nothing to post. 2. What little interest I have in this newsgroup continues to decline. Hell, I don't even read most of the posts of the assholes here, much less comment on them. There are many other, more interesting venues these days, and these are not packed with right-wing losers and iLoogys. That's true. Harry hardly ever posts here anymore. Maybe thirty or forty a day, but that's a huge drop. He's obviously lost most of his interest in this place. You have to concede Harry his point, as well. During a protracted period of time that (I believe) Harry didn't post here. The anti-Harry faction created numerous sock puppet Harrys just to keep the **** going. Obviously, when Harry got back, he dived back in. When did it not become a civic duty to rub the faces of right-wingers in their stupidity? :) Wayne, obviously, either missed or decided not to take me up on the proposal I offered him. Perhaps I'll make a bet with myself...that even if I refrain from insulting the right-wing morons and the iLoogy moron in the new year, they'll still behave as badly as they always have. I'm pretty sure I'd win that bet. Most of them have no other reason to be here. Herring isn't going to change, and neither are iSnotty, flajim, the latest iteration of "Krueger," flajim, the rest of the turdpack, or the new handle every day boys, and w'hine will still be attempting to troll here. Imagine iSnotty behaving in a civilized manner...I can't, can you? Obviously, the fishing is pretty good. Wayne is a whole lot smarter than you give him credit for. D'oh. You're not in a position to know. I think Wayne is a bright guy. Wayne and I disagree on the direction corporations have taken this country and on other issues, but that doesn't mean I think he is dimwitted. Quite the contrary. There are a few bright posters here whose politics differ from mine. You aren't among them. Further, I am sure you will be behaving as badly in 2012 as you have to date, no matter what your new handle is. You have turned into a crashing boor in your old age. More likely, I'm not that interested in engaging you in badinage. You're not very bright, you're right-wing trash, and I'm sure your wife, if you have one, dresses you funny. As I stated, I'm sure your behavior here will not improve in 2012. You are a perfect playmate for iSnotty and iLoogy. And neither will yours. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Dec 29 2011, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W.... According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern after it became stuck. "We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the stern up with water" It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like it might have been. They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft. It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good idea, either, and for them same reasons. I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the stretchy rode yanked them back. This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid. Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off... I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have thought about it. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Jan 4, 9:04*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 29 2011, 9:09*am, wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W... According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern after it became stuck. "We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the stern up with water" It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like it might have been. They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft. It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good idea, either, and for them same reasons. I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the stretchy rode yanked them back. This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid. Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off... I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have thought about it. I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line. Yeah, and it would seem they've done that trick before, with no events. "it ain't happened to us yet!" |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Jan 4, 8:58*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W... According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern after it became stuck. "We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the stern up with water" It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like it might have been. They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft. It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good idea, either, and for them same reasons. I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the stretchy rode yanked them back. This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid. Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off... I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have thought about it. This guy was a licensed "Captain," and in my book, a higher standard, a professional standard applies. maybe, but you also must remember that Walter Freeman was a licensed neuro-surgon as well. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
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, says... On Jan 4, 8:58*pm, wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W... According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern after it became stuck. "We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the stern up with water" It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like it might have been. They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft. It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good idea, either, and for them same reasons. I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the stretchy rode yanked them back. This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid. Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off... I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have thought about it. This guy was a licensed "Captain," and in my book, a higher standard, a professional standard applies. maybe, but you also must remember that Walter Freeman was a licensed neuro-surgon as well. Now that's a good point! To be honest, back in those days when neurosurgery and understanding the brain was in it's infancy, they were doing nothing more than experimenting. They figured that the mentally ill were disposable anyway. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
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33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:56 -0500, Oscar wrote:
On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W... According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern after it became stuck. "We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the stern up with water" It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like it might have been. They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft. It is a recipe for disaster to shorten the scope of the anchor line and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good idea, either, and for them same reasons. I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the stretchy rode yanked them back. This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid. Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off... I definitely would have cut the line. that is if i would have thought about it. I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line. I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging doing that. Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway. Yup. I'm a pansy. The only time I use a stern anchor is at a boaters' beach. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Jan 5, 3:44*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:56 -0500, Oscar wrote: On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B *wrote: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W... According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern after it became stuck. "We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the stern up with water" It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like it might have been. They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft. It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good idea, either, and for them same reasons. I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the stretchy rode yanked them back. This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid. Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off... I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have thought about it. I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line.. I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging doing that. Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway. Yup. I'm a pansy. The only time I use a stern anchor is at a boaters' beach. I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's easily and economically replaced |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Jan 5, 11:09*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's easily and economically replaced For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth style that will have a lot more holding power. That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are pulling this up every hour or so. If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it free. I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put this on an expendable rode. But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat.... I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get obnoxious. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 1/6/12 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 11:09 pm, wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST), wrote: I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's easily and economically replaced For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth style that will have a lot more holding power. That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are pulling this up every hour or so. If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it free. I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put this on an expendable rode. But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat.... I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get obnoxious. Besides, the CMU more closely fits your image, even though by now you've collected millions from our Nigerian partners. |
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33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On 1/6/2012 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 11:09 pm, wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST), wrote: I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's easily and economically replaced For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth style that will have a lot more holding power. That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are pulling this up every hour or so. If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it free. I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put this on an expendable rode. But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat.... I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get obnoxious. Do you carry a spare anchor in case it chafes through the clothes line it's tethered to the boat with. There isn't a red neck marine supply at every bend in the river you know. ;-) |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 3:44*pm, Happy John wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:19:56 -0500, Oscar wrote: On 1/5/2012 12:04 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:59 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:42:34 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Dec 29 2011, 9:09 am, wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:33:27 -0500, Wayne.B *wrote: http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-12-28/Boat-sinks-off-Key-W... According to the news report they pulled the anchor from the stern after it became stuck. "We put it back on the stern to bring it up and we had power on it and when we had let go, it snatched back and the waves filled the stern up with water" It's not clear if it was a low transom boat or not but it sounds like it might have been. They were saved by their EPIRB and life raft. It is a recipe for disaster *to shorten the scope of the anchor line and tug from the stern. Hell, anchoring from the stern isn't a good idea, either, and for them same reasons. I wonder how close to being drug under water the stern was, before the stretchy rode yanked them back. This guy isn't "unlucky", he's just stupid. Maybe be just wasn't thinking with all the calamity? He might have been 'lucky' hundreds of times, but this one really payed off... I definitely would have cut the line. *that is if i would have thought about it. I still think these guys took a running start at this, based on what the mate said on TV and when it didn't break the anchor loose they snapped back and sunk the boat. I doubt they had time to cut the line. I'd have cut my line before trying to use the engine to loosen the anchor. I just can't imaging doing that. Pansy! But you wouldn't have stern anchored in the first place anyway. Yup. I'm a pansy. The only time I use a stern anchor is at a boaters' beach. I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's easily and economically replaced I'd be worried about the concrete scratching the bottom of my boat. I just use a danforth type. Small one for the beach, larger one for the bay or deeper water. The small one, four pounder, I think, fits in an old back pack, along with some line. Works great at the beach. |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 09:12:31 -0500, Oscar wrote:
On 1/6/2012 7:54 AM, Tim wrote: On Jan 5, 11:09 pm, wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:12:23 -0800 (PST), wrote: I've found out that the type of boating I do, a cement foundation block on an old ski rope is most effective, and if lost, well.... it's easily and economically replaced For far less than the weight of a CMU you can find a tiny danforth style that will have a lot more holding power. That can make a huge difference at the end of the day if you are pulling this up every hour or so. If you are anchoring in a rocky area and think you will be losing anchors you can make one with #4 Rebar that will bend itself free on a hard tug and if it is really stuck, you are not out much if you cut it free. I have seen them tied up with baling wire but I usually welded them up when I was banging them out for fishermen I knew. You can also put this on an expendable rode. But Greg. The block was standard equipment when I bought the boat.... I know what you're saying if you use it a lot, that would get obnoxious. Do you carry a spare anchor in case it chafes through the clothes line it's tethered to the boat with. There isn't a red neck marine supply at every bend in the river you know. ;-) (There are a few things about Tim's boating that he should keep to himself. Private-like, if you know what I mean.) ;) |
33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
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33 Foot Boat sinks off Key West While Pulling Anchor From Stern
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