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Clams Canino wrote:

A Cuban friend of mine gave me a real good argument for not allowing
immigrants to ever be POTUS.

As much as he hates Castro etc etc...... He could never bring himself to
nuke Cuba - even if it was the right call. You gotta be able to push the
button if you sit in the big chair.

-W



Aren't you a bit nervous about the idiot now sitting in that chair?
Here's a guy and an administration who have lied and misled the American
public so completely that we've invaded two countries for specious
reasons, and you're not concerned that the same pack of crooks have
their fingers poised over the nuclear trigger?

Our Cuban policy is idiotic and has been for generations. Bush is moving
it backwards, but why should that be a surprise?

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I'm more nervous that he *didn't* push the button.

For an attack like Sept 11th, I would have fired a "warning nuke" in the
"no-mans land" in Afghanistan where we thought BinLiner was hiding - on Sept
12th. One of those new-fangled "light fallout" models. That, followed by the
threat that more were coming if the Tliban didn't hand him over. Collateral
damage out there would have been very light. And it would have scared the
**** out of a lot more assholes to find out that we really *could* push that
button if ****ed off enough.

-W




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Aren't you a bit nervous about the idiot now sitting in that chair?
Here's a guy and an administration who have lied and misled the American
public so completely that we've invaded two countries for specious
reasons, and you're not concerned that the same pack of crooks have
their fingers poised over the nuclear trigger?

Our Cuban policy is idiotic and has been for generations. Bush is moving
it backwards, but why should that be a surprise?

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Clams Canino wrote:

A Cuban friend of mine gave me a real good argument for not allowing
immigrants to ever be POTUS.

As much as he hates Castro etc etc...... He could never bring himself to
nuke Cuba - even if it was the right call. You gotta be able to push

the
button if you sit in the big chair.

-W



Aren't you a bit nervous about the idiot now sitting in that chair?
Here's a guy and an administration who have lied and misled the American
public so completely that we've invaded two countries for specious
reasons, and you're not concerned that the same pack of crooks have
their fingers poised over the nuclear trigger?

Our Cuban policy is idiotic and has been for generations. Bush is moving
it backwards, but why should that be a surprise?

__________________________________________________ __________
Email sent to will never reach me.


specious reasons?

How soon we forget . . . .. .



Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity
to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver
them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of
mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use
nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is
the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has
ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,
1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent
with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including,
if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom
Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his
weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless
using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles
that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,)
and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and
a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction
and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven
impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long
as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We
are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical
and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in
his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we
have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11
years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear
capacity. This he has refused to do"
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear
program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists,
including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked,
Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological
and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence
that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response
to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


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From: "Calif Bill"

There was the controversy as to if you had to be born in the USA or born a
citizen in the about 1972 election. Forget the name (senior moment) of the
former head of American motors that was born to Mormon missionary parents
outside the US borders.


I believe you might be talking about George Romney, then Governor of Michigan
who made a run at the Presidency.

Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

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"RGrew176" wrote in message
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From: "Calif Bill"


There was the controversy as to if you had to be born in the USA or born

a
citizen in the about 1972 election. Forget the name (senior moment) of

the
former head of American motors that was born to Mormon missionary parents
outside the US borders.


I believe you might be talking about George Romney, then Governor of

Michigan
who made a run at the Presidency.

Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.


Bingo.




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"Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message

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(snip the drivel)
Bill


So, do you deem Arnold groping women as just a little thing that
doesn't need to be discussed? If so, once again, we are shown just how
hypocritical the Republicans are! It's okay to grope women if you're a
republican, but, if you are a democrat, you need to spend millions of
dollars of taxpayer's money to give to Ken Starr to get to the bottom
of it.


Let us look at the difference between the Ken Starr investigation BJ and The
Govenator.
1. The Govenator was 20 years old, un married, and a guy who probably got
groped a lot also being he was Mr. Olympiad.
2. The BJ was brought up in a court of law in regards to the governor of a
state telling an employee to blow him and then lied in court about his
groping, etc.
3. Arnold apologized to any women who were offended 20 years ago. The
President of the USA was disbarred for committing perjury.


And it cost WE, the taxpayers, MILLIONS of dollars to find out that
Clinton liked sex. And it was purely republican agenda. So, we have
Bush giving us a dribble of a tax cut to make him look like the
anti-tax God, but the republicans don't have a problem spending our
tax dollars to hire Ken Starr. So the real use of those millions of
dollars were for campaign finance. Isn't it nice to know that the
republicans used the tax money of every hard working American for
campaign funds?
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