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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On Dec 16, 12:21*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. * I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. These signals are very weak and short-range. Lucky if they have a workable range of a mile. "The laboratory testing was performed for the National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing (PNT) Systems Engineering Forum, an executive branch body that helps advise policy makers on issues around GPS. It found that 69 of 92, or 75 percent, of receivers tested "experienced harmful interference" at the equivalent of 100 meters (109 yards) from a LightSquared base station." *- from link above. If you regularly sail within a 100 meters of a transceiver station (they won't be on the water, folks" then be worried - be very worried, but those instances will be few and far between to non-existent. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Wilbur Hubbard Celebrating Christmas again on that mustard yellow/mauve Coronado 27? |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On Dec 16, 1:12*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 3354b9e1-e0d9-4342-85a6- , says... On Dec 16, 12:21*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. * I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. These signals are very weak and short-range. Lucky if they have a workable range of a mile. "The laboratory testing was performed for the National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing (PNT) Systems Engineering Forum, an executive branch body that helps advise policy makers on issues around GPS. It found that 69 of 92, or 75 percent, of receivers tested "experienced harmful interference" at the equivalent of 100 meters (109 yards) from a LightSquared base station." *- from link above. If you regularly sail within a 100 meters of a transceiver station (they won't be on the water, folks" then be worried - be very worried, but those instances will be few and far between to non-existent. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Wilbur Hubbard *Celebrating Christmas again on that mustard yellow/mauve Coronado 27? That's our Suckling Don, always quick to say crappy things about what other's have, but doesn't like it when someone points out his paint blistered house with garbage in the yard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah.. Kevin! Are you saying that the mustard yellow/mauve paint scheme is "crappy"? I said no such thing. As a matter of fact, Capt Neil seems very proud of his Coronado 27 and it's colours. He just might consider the acknowledgement of it as a compliment. |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
In article c5da4e8d-e5c5-4d05-afe7-
, says... On Dec 16, 1:12*pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article 3354b9e1-e0d9-4342-85a6- , says... On Dec 16, 12:21*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. * I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. These signals are very weak and short-range. Lucky if they have a workable range of a mile. "The laboratory testing was performed for the National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing (PNT) Systems Engineering Forum, an executive branch body that helps advise policy makers on issues around GPS. It found that 69 of 92, or 75 percent, of receivers tested "experienced harmful interference" at the equivalent of 100 meters (109 yards) from a LightSquared base station." *- from link above. If you regularly sail within a 100 meters of a transceiver station (they won't be on the water, folks" then be worried - be very worried, but those instances will be few and far between to non-existent. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Wilbur Hubbard *Celebrating Christmas again on that mustard yellow/mauve Coronado 27? That's our Suckling Don, always quick to say crappy things about what other's have, but doesn't like it when someone points out his paint blistered house with garbage in the yard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah.. Kevin! Are you saying that the mustard yellow/mauve paint scheme is "crappy"? I said no such thing. As a matter of fact, Capt Neil seems very proud of his Coronado 27 and it's colours. He just might consider the acknowledgement of it as a compliment. Suckling Don the Coward, I, and everyone else, realizes that you are calling me Kevin to deflect from your cowardly actions here. Also, everyone here knows that your daddy Harry has taught you how to insult without really seeming like you are the low life scum that you are. That blistering, peeling paint and junk in your yard is really attractive! |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On Dec 16, 4:01*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article c5da4e8d-e5c5-4d05-afe7- , says... On Dec 16, 1:12 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article 3354b9e1-e0d9-4342-85a6- , says... On Dec 16, 12:21 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
"North Star" wrote in message
... On Dec 16, 1:12 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article 3354b9e1-e0d9-4342-85a6- , says... On Dec 16, 12:21 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. These signals are very weak and short-range. Lucky if they have a workable range of a mile. "The laboratory testing was performed for the National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing (PNT) Systems Engineering Forum, an executive branch body that helps advise policy makers on issues around GPS. It found that 69 of 92, or 75 percent, of receivers tested "experienced harmful interference" at the equivalent of 100 meters (109 yards) from a LightSquared base station." - from link above. If you regularly sail within a 100 meters of a transceiver station (they won't be on the water, folks" then be worried - be very worried, but those instances will be few and far between to non-existent. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Wilbur Hubbard Celebrating Christmas again on that mustard yellow/mauve Coronado 27? That's our Suckling Don, always quick to say crappy things about what other's have, but doesn't like it when someone points out his paint blistered house with garbage in the yard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - // // Ah.. Kevin! // Are you saying that the mustard yellow/mauve paint scheme is // "crappy"? I said no such thing. // As a matter of fact, Capt Neil seems very proud of his Coronado 27 and // it's colours. He just might consider the acknowledgement of it as a // compliment. Right you are! It's easy to see jealousy showing . . . Wilbur has one fine-looking and capable, blue water sailing yacht, if he must say so himself. And, Cut the Mustard keeps getting better via upgrades. For example, just installed in time for the Christmas holidays (and the many babes who visit) is a brand spanking new Raritan brand, Electro/Scan type I MSD from Defender. It's the one with the electronic readouts and monitoring of the treatment process. A very nice system and it damned well better be for the best part of a grand. Now that I've kicked the collective asses of the Florida FWC to the curb, it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to get even by contracting a federal MSD effluent inspector to check to make sure my Type I system is up to the required treatment standards (yes, federal law says they can do this but qualified inspectors are few and far between and mostly check larger vessel, over 65 feet, Type II MSDs). The old Lectra/San was twenty some odd years old and probably was not doing the best of jobs even though it whirred and drew current. I'm sure the internal electrodes that produce the acid from the sea water to kill the bacteria where shot or close to shot. And probably one of the macerator or mixer blades had broke off as it made clunking noises from time to time as it something hard was getting hit inside. Also, I have a new ten-gallon holding tank which I have connected with a tee and ball valve to the output side of the MSC so I can direct treated sewage into the holding tank for use in no-discharge zones. I did not have to do all this as I won my trial against the bogus FWC charge that my vessel is a houseboat an can only meet requirements by having a holding tank installed. I'm did this in order to be a responsible sailor. (Besides, there are some close-quarters situations when anchored in close proximity to other vessels and where people are swimming where the old cedar bucket is a social affront.) Wilbur Hubbard |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
In article db95cd4b-bba4-4075-b73a-cc4133bb1e34
@i6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 16, 4:01*pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article c5da4e8d-e5c5-4d05-afe7- , says... On Dec 16, 1:12 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article 3354b9e1-e0d9-4342-85a6- , says... On Dec 16, 12:21 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. These signals are very weak and short-range. Lucky if they have a workable range of a mile. "The laboratory testing was performed for the National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing (PNT) Systems Engineering Forum, an executive branch body that helps advise policy makers on issues around GPS. It found that 69 of 92, or 75 percent, of receivers tested "experienced harmful interference" at the equivalent of 100 meters (109 yards) from a LightSquared base station." - from link above. If you regularly sail within a 100 meters of a transceiver station (they won't be on the water, folks" then be worried - be very worried, but those instances will be few and far between to non-existent. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Wilbur Hubbard Celebrating Christmas again on that mustard yellow/mauve Coronado 27? That's our Suckling Don, always quick to say crappy things about what other's have, but doesn't like it when someone points out his paint blistered house with garbage in the yard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah.. Kevin! Are you saying that the mustard yellow/mauve paint scheme is "crappy"? *I said no such thing. As a matter of fact, Capt Neil seems very proud of his Coronado 27 and it's colours. He just might consider the acknowledgement of it as a compliment. Suckling Don the Coward, I, and everyone else, realizes that you are calling me Kevin to deflect from your cowardly actions here. Also, everyone here knows that your daddy Harry has taught you how to insult without really seeming like you are the low life scum that you are. That blistering, peeling paint and junk in your yard is really attractive!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BTW coward... where were you yesterday and Wednesday? Your absence in Beddington Maine was conspicious, although certainly expected. Who, Kevin? |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
iBoaterer wrote:
You can be tricked by the gadgets. In August I had the wife, mom, two sisters and the dog in the RAV4 sightseeing in rural Cape Breton. (was also pulling my new Mission aluminum utility trailer with all our luggage and mom's wheelchair inside) Rather than use street signs, I asked the garmin to take me to a particular town on the Bras d'Or Lakes. The road got smaller... turned to gravel and then got narrower and narrower. We ended up in some farm's front yard on a dead end. Retraced our steps and followed the highway signs from then on. Five women and a dog in the RAV4? Aside from the stench, did you ladies enjoy the trip? -HB- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Enjoy this, GirlieBoy! Let's see. Suckling Don goes on a trip with five women and a dog, in a RAV4.... and he calls someone else a "girlieboy"???? That's all he's got. -HB |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
North Star wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:35 am, wrote: In article9453b1b4-511d-49ff-b876-e9f1e6bf4220 @u6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 9:18 pm, Honey wrote: North Star wrote: On Dec 15, 7:39 pm, wrote: On Dec 15, 7:59 am, wrote: On 12/15/2011 8:50 AM, A boater wrote: On 12/15/2011 7:56 AM, X ` Man wrote: From my point of view of being against the takeover of the United States by corporate interests, this is almost laughable. The well-heeled corporate interests at LightSquared are lobbying to push their theory that their snatch of bandwidth isn't going to do any harm to existing services because, well, because they say so. On the other hand, we have reports that: Government tests showed that "LightSquared signals caused harmful interference to the majority of?general purpose GPS receivers," said Anthony Russo, director of the National Coordination Office for Spaced-Based Positioning, Navigation and Timing, a government and industry advisory board, in a statement late Wednesday. How will it end? The usual way: another corporate takeover of an area that should be tightly regulated to protect the public's interest. And we'll all probably have to subscribe for payment to some future commercial GPS service. Corporatism uber alles. WELL THEN, DON'T JUST SIT THERE, DO SOMETHING... As much **** as I am sure to take I have to admit, I am addicted to my GPS. It's on all the time, always pointed where I am going (over 5 miles or so) even if I go there every day like the track or the stables.. I like the clock, the speedometer, and just not spacing by a turn. Of course I do end up going a lot of places that are new to me during the year too traveling around from track to track... So, I need my GPS! At night I like watching the little car image follow the pink ribbon of a road....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You can be tricked by the gadgets. In August I had the wife, mom, two sisters and the dog in the RAV4 sightseeing in rural Cape Breton. (was also pulling my new Mission aluminum utility trailer with all our luggage and mom's wheelchair inside) Rather than use street signs, I asked the garmin to take me to a particular town on the Bras d'Or Lakes. The road got smaller... turned to gravel and then got narrower and narrower. We ended up in some farm's front yard on a dead end. Retraced our steps and followed the highway signs from then on. Five women and a dog in the RAV4? Aside from the stench, did you ladies enjoy the trip? -HB- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Enjoy this, GirlieBoy! Let's see. Suckling Don goes on a trip with five women and a dog, in a RAV4.... and he calls someone else a "girlieboy"????- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So... you usually travel with your 'boyfriends'?? So you have no friends. You have your mommy, wife, and two sisters. That's what you were projecting, right? -HB (Get my app!) |
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