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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On 12/16/11 9:24 AM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 16, 9:32 am, wrote: In articleb729b219-a136-4050-882b-1af65a81cd57 @i6g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 12:15 pm, wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:54:01 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote: On Dec 15, 11:12 am, wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:56:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: How will it end? The usual way: another corporate takeover of an area that should be tightly regulated to protect the public's interest. And we'll all probably have to subscribe for payment to some future commercial GPS service. === That seems overly pessimistic. If there is enough grass roots opposition, the proposal as it presently exists will be defeated. That's why it is important that everyone write. My best guess is that eventually Lightspeed will be forced to barter with the FCC to get the use of some other frequencies. I hope you are successful... what happens to you will happen to us. Here on the coast, a good GPS can be a life saver...... especially now that most boaters have been spoiled and probably rely too heavily on the service. === A lot of folks have forgotten what it was like "in the good old days" when we thought we were doing OK to know our position within a mile or so. LORAN-C was such a huge improvement that most of us rushed out to buy one as soon as they became affordable because that usually improved our accuracy to plus or minus100 yards. LORAN is gone now because GPS was another vast improvement, and without it, we'd be back to hand bearing compass, dead reckoning and Radio Direction Finders (extra points awarded if you understand that). I still have our original RDF purchased back in the early 1970s. It was crude but after sailing offshore all day in the fog it was a lot better than nothing.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Every fall or winter when I might get bored, I think about buying a sextant and taking the Jr Navigator& Navigation courses from our local Power& Sail Squadron Then I realize it's probably cheaper to invest in a 2nd maping GPS and the urge fades. Yeah, far be it from an idiot like you to want to learn anything, Suckling Don the Coward!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I've learned that you are the biggest jackass and cowardly NancyBoy in this newsgroup. Of course, that's no great feat since you are painfully transparent. No one but you and his showermate iSnotty responds to the little twerp. If you stopped, his only playdate would be with iSnotty. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On Dec 16, 10:54*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 12/16/11 9:24 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 16, 9:32 am, *wrote: In articleb729b219-a136-4050-882b-1af65a81cd57 @i6g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 12:15 pm, *wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:54:01 -0800 (PST), North Star *wrote: On Dec 15, 11:12 am, *wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:56:56 -0500, X ` Man *wrote: How will it end? The usual way: another corporate takeover of an area that should be tightly regulated to protect the public's interest.. And we'll all probably have to subscribe for payment to some future commercial GPS service. === That seems overly pessimistic. * If there is enough grass roots opposition, the proposal as it presently exists will be defeated. That's why it is important that everyone write. My best guess is that eventually Lightspeed will be forced to barter with the FCC to get the use of some other frequencies. I hope you are successful... what happens to you will happen to us. Here on the coast, a good GPS can be a life saver...... *especially now that most boaters have been spoiled and probably rely too heavily on the service. === A lot of folks have forgotten what it was like "in the good old days" when we thought we were doing OK to know our position within a mile or so. * LORAN-C was such a huge improvement that most of us rushed out to buy one as soon as they became affordable because that usually improved our accuracy to plus or minus100 yards. * LORAN is gone now because GPS was another vast improvement, and without it, we'd be back to hand bearing compass, dead reckoning and Radio Direction Finders (extra points awarded if you understand that). *I still have our original RDF purchased back in the early 1970s. *It was crude but after sailing offshore all day in the fog it was a lot better than nothing.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Every fall or winter when I might get bored, I think about buying a sextant and taking the Jr Navigator& *Navigation courses from our local Power& *Sail Squadron Then I realize it's probably cheaper to invest in a 2nd maping GPS and the urge fades. Yeah, far be it from an idiot like you to want to learn anything, Suckling Don the Coward!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I've learned that you are the biggest jackass and cowardly NancyBoy in this newsgroup. Of course, that's no great feat since you are painfully transparent. No one but you and his showermate iSnotty responds to the little twerp. If you stopped, his only playdate would be with iSnotty. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would be worried that he'd go postal if completely ignored. I'd feel really bad if some pre-teen girl got her arms broken just because I didn''t suffer his loonyness. On the other hand, why should the burden be on me to humour him just to keep him out of trouble.... after all, they have drugs for that purpose. ;-) |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On 12/16/11 9:59 AM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 16, 10:54 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 12/16/11 9:24 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 16, 9:32 am, wrote: In articleb729b219-a136-4050-882b-1af65a81cd57 @i6g2000vbh.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 12:15 pm, wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:54:01 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote: On Dec 15, 11:12 am, wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:56:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: How will it end? The usual way: another corporate takeover of an area that should be tightly regulated to protect the public's interest. And we'll all probably have to subscribe for payment to some future commercial GPS service. === That seems overly pessimistic. If there is enough grass roots opposition, the proposal as it presently exists will be defeated. That's why it is important that everyone write. My best guess is that eventually Lightspeed will be forced to barter with the FCC to get the use of some other frequencies. I hope you are successful... what happens to you will happen to us. Here on the coast, a good GPS can be a life saver...... especially now that most boaters have been spoiled and probably rely too heavily on the service. === A lot of folks have forgotten what it was like "in the good old days" when we thought we were doing OK to know our position within a mile or so. LORAN-C was such a huge improvement that most of us rushed out to buy one as soon as they became affordable because that usually improved our accuracy to plus or minus100 yards. LORAN is gone now because GPS was another vast improvement, and without it, we'd be back to hand bearing compass, dead reckoning and Radio Direction Finders (extra points awarded if you understand that). I still have our original RDF purchased back in the early 1970s. It was crude but after sailing offshore all day in the fog it was a lot better than nothing.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Every fall or winter when I might get bored, I think about buying a sextant and taking the Jr Navigator& Navigation courses from our local Power& Sail Squadron Then I realize it's probably cheaper to invest in a 2nd maping GPS and the urge fades. Yeah, far be it from an idiot like you to want to learn anything, Suckling Don the Coward!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I've learned that you are the biggest jackass and cowardly NancyBoy in this newsgroup. Of course, that's no great feat since you are painfully transparent. No one but you and his showermate iSnotty responds to the little twerp. If you stopped, his only playdate would be with iSnotty. --http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would be worried that he'd go postal if completely ignored. I'd feel really bad if some pre-teen girl got her arms broken just because I didn''t suffer his loonyness. On the other hand, why should the burden be on me to humour him just to keep him out of trouble.... after all, they have drugs for that purpose. ;-) So what if he goes postal? Who gives a ****? -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. These signals are very weak and short-range. Lucky if they have a workable range of a mile. "The laboratory testing was performed for the National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing (PNT) Systems Engineering Forum, an executive branch body that helps advise policy makers on issues around GPS. It found that 69 of 92, or 75 percent, of receivers tested "experienced harmful interference" at the equivalent of 100 meters (109 yards) from a LightSquared base station." - from link above. If you regularly sail within a 100 meters of a transceiver station (they won't be on the water, folks" then be worried - be very worried, but those instances will be few and far between to non-existent. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Wilbur Hubbard |
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