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On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: to dump in the US. For your reference, the plastics industry is 60% of what it was 15 years ago. fyi alot of plastics are in cars you seem unaware of the fact. are you that incredibley dense?? I've manufactured equipment and molded parts for 30 years, in the U.S, until 2004 when the bottom fell out in U.S. manufacturing. That happened because the scum you've elected welcome imports from countries that will NOT allow your products into their country. Are you so ****ing stupid that you don't know that?? I now ship you junk from Asia, because you fools don't get it and don't give a flying rats ass. The profit is great, but we understand that the U.S. market is only short term. I've watched you assholes send your money to Japan and Korea for autos, 90% of which have no raw materials, moldings, tooling or capital equipment from your country. You have no ability to even babble as usual about this subject. |
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On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: You never should have skipped 4th grade economics. ?? let's see...the US pays ONE percent italy pays FIVE percent and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!! Italy is closer to devastation tha the U.S.; you have at least a year to go. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 3-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote: DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? Rates are not low because demand is high. Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. Banks don't need to pay interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in the lend-borrow market place. And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact Social Security loses 5% value per year. Say $1000 in SS gets $10 interest. But it takes $1060 to buy the same stuff a year later. In value terms Social security is being skimmed by DC. Yep, they will collect more and pay out less in the long term. Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%, $10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait, you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%. Whole scale Bernanke-0bama fraud really. A zero rate economy of depreciating value of money. And part of why your going to be so ****ed in the end. Government isn't going to be able to increase your social security, Medicare and other benefits with inflation money print. But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. ....might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q. |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:46:55 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: to dump in the US. For your reference, the plastics industry is 60% of what it was 15 years ago. fyi alot of plastics are in cars you seem unaware of the fact. are you that incredibley dense?? I've manufactured equipment and molded parts for 30 years burgers don't count , in the U.S, until 2004 when the bottom fell out in U.S. manufacturing. That happened because the scum you've elected welcome imports from countries ah. 2004. yes, the right wing was at its pinnacle at that point thanks moron. you just made my point. res ipsa loquitur that will NOT allow your products into their country. Are you so ****ing stupid that you don't know that?? I now ship you junk from Asia, HAHAHAAH he doesn't know about NAFTA, etc!! ROFLMAO! he doesnt know what the right has done to this country...which is EXACTLY my point! he's complaining that i'm correct because i'm correct HAHAHAHAHA I've watched you assholes send your money to Japan how's japan doing by the way? oh...the term 'lost decade' was invented for the and Korea for autos i've been to korea. i know the economy well. more than you know about US politics!! |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:49:20 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 3-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote: DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? Rates are not low because demand is high. Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. Banks don't need to pay interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in the lend-borrow market place. And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact Social Security loses 5% value per year. Say $1000 in SS gets $10 interest. But it takes $1060 to buy the same stuff a year later. In value terms Social security is being skimmed by DC. Yep, they will collect more and pay out less in the long term. Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%, $10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait, you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%. Whole scale Bernanke-0bama fraud really. A zero rate economy of depreciating value of money. And part of why your going to be so ****ed in the end. Government isn't going to be able to increase your social security, Medicare and other benefits with inflation money print. But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. ...might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q. says a guy who takes 3 weeks to tie his shoes |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:48:11 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: You never should have skipped 4th grade economics. ?? let's see...the US pays ONE percent italy pays FIVE percent and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!! Italy is closer to devastation tha the U.S.; you have at least a year to go. gee. i've not only said that, i've shown why DUH!!! only takes you a few weeks to catch on... |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging population. successful companies left here because the middle class has been destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder I'll help you one final time. Let's pretend you had the ability to start and operate a company, producing something within your skill set - say.....cream cheese dildos. Business was great and you were shipping all over the continent. Suddenly sales nose dive. You wonder why. You look around and see cream cheese dildo's being shipped to your marketplace from Japan, Korea and China. You decide to get even with them and ship to Japan, Korea and China! DAMN THEM *******S. Then you learn that Japan and Korea don't allow your cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos. What do you do? Pick one: 1) Wring your hands and bitch in new groups, 2) Import your dildo's from China and flood the marketplace in the same was Walmart does, or, 3) Form a joint venture with the red Chinese government to make dildo's in China for export to North America - because you're not permitted to build and ship from Japan or Korea. (This is what happened to your automobile industry) Either way you fire all the employees in your U.S. dildo plant, file bankruptcy, and move to Asia, unless you select option 1 where you beg from your bankrupt government. You're lucky stupidity isn't painful. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 2-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote: Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging population. And each day DC fleabaggerism goes on, the worse it gets. I figure USA is now well past an easy recovery. Too much real wealth is gone and the problem causes of government-banks is still underway digging a deeper hole. To recover, there has to something to be recovered. Your core economic base is gone. Productive output is not an option for 4 to 5 generations. What you need to do is adapt to a very uncomfortable living standard. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:59:25 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging population. successful companies left here because the middle class has been destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder I'll help you one final time. Let's pretend you had the ability to start and operate a company, producing something within your skill set - say.....cream cheese dildos. Business was great and you were shipping all over the continent. Suddenly sales nose dive. You wonder why. You look around and see cream cheese dildo's being shipped to your marketplace from Japan, Korea and China. You decide to get even with them and ship to Japan, Korea and China! DAMN THEM *******S. Then you learn that Japan and Korea don't allow your cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos. now let's see...the traditional free market, milton friedman (you HAVE read him, right?) would say this about your infantile example 1. restricting imports reduces competitiveness and drives up costs 2. when these countries tried to EXPORT their goods they'd find they were over priced and would be driven out of the market 3. this is effectively a SUBSIDY for these products paid for by a TAX on the importing country's population oh. you dont know economics. you've never taken a course. 3) Form a joint venture with the red Chinese government to make dildo's in China for export to North America - because you're not permitted to build and ship from Japan or Korea. (This is what happened to your automobile industry) let's see....what's the status of IP protection in china? oh. there is none. but you didnt realize that 'cuz you've never done business there. you'd be pathetic if you weren't hopeless |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: benefits with inflation money print. But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. ...might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q. says a guy who takes 3 weeks to tie his shoes Now THAT'S funny ... haven't heard anything so clever since ... ... ... ... junior high school. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos. now let's see...the traditional free market, milton friedman (you HAVE read him, right?) would say this about your infantile example What was described was not an example, it is what happened to your country. There is no free trade, just an inevitable (due to actions by your government) dumping of everything foreign into your country. The condition I explained in terms that could be understood even by your neighbors was too confusing for you. I told you I'd explain what happened only one more time. Now it's your option to whine until "things get better." If you gave a flying rats ass you'd demand your "representatives" to require reciprocal trade, but that would take an effort, and the fat happy and stupid in your country (95%) refuse to do so. Another action would be to stop sending your money overseas (much of it to me) but you're too lazy to do that too. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:21:43 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: benefits with inflation money print. But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. ...might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q. says a guy who takes 3 weeks to tie his shoes Now THAT'S funny ... haven't heard anything so clever since ... ... ... ... junior high school. which, for you, was last week |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Dec 2, 10:24*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. *That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- snip Duh! Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any & all procedures.... and they charge for every person that so much as looks your way. Your provincial plan will cover what the same procedures cost to perform at home. |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:29:18 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos. now let's see...the traditional free market, milton friedman (you HAVE read him, right?) would say this about your infantile example What was described was not an example, it is what happened to your country. IOW you got your ass kicked so now you want to slink away, because you dont know **** about the US or economics no kiddin' There is no free trade, just an inevitable (due to actions by your government) golly. what country has 'free' trade? oh. all of them except us. so you you say. the US is unique in that it's exploding and dying, except, you admit, every other country is exploding and will die before us wow. what an argument. If you gave a flying rats ass you'd demand your "representatives" to require reciprocal trade, but that would take an effort, and the fat happy and stupid in your country (95%) refuse to do so. Another action would be to stop sending your money overseas (much of it to me) but you're too lazy to do that too. now let's see...he doesn't know there is an american right wing and that not all americans are far right yeah. he's plugged in alright |
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On 12/3/2011 10:13 AM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 2, 10:24 pm, wrote: Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- snip Duh! Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any& all procedures.... and they charge for every person that so much as looks your way. Your provincial plan will cover what the same procedures cost to perform at home. Most US surgeons don't make house calls. What's the going rate for a triple bypass at your house in Noba Skosha. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
In article m,
says... On 12/3/2011 10:13 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 2, 10:24 pm, wrote: Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- snip Duh! Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any& all procedures.... and they charge for every person that so much as looks your way. Your provincial plan will cover what the same procedures cost to perform at home. Most US surgeons don't make house calls. What's the going rate for a triple bypass at your house in Noba Skosha. They wouldn't go there, they'd be afraid of disease from the garbage. |
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On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: There is no free trade, just an inevitable (due to actions by your government) golly. what country has 'free' trade? It was a LONG time ago, (hours maybe!!) but you brought up the phrase "free trade". As you have nothing to say, I suggest you print my information, tape it to an inside wall of your trailer and read it several times a day. Also notice that it makes no difference to me what happens to your incfome, family or country's economy. My input was to help you, but you like things as they are in your country's waning days. |
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On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: time in history. System is running on fraud money creation. yeah the socialists of the rich, using the middle class as a piggy bank, has destroyed the middle class, with the support of the right wing. The former middle class eliminated themselves by sending the majority of their disposable income overseas. The demise of the middle class was at their option. Natural selection will also prevail. |
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On Dec 3, 12:51*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 12/3/2011 10:13 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 2, 10:24 pm, *wrote: Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. *That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- snip Duh! Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any& *all procedures.... and they charge for every person that so much as looks your way. Your provincial plan will cover what the same procedures cost to perform at home. Most US surgeons don't make house calls. What's the going rate for a triple bypass at your house in Noba Skosha. They wouldn't go there, they'd be afraid of disease from the garbage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At least I pay my medical bills........ at least I would if I ever got one. |
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On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: no one knows what the plan is for the euro. you're just a dip**** who thinks he knows... The plan for the Euro is to eliminate it which is why the germans are bankrolling it?? Novocain always wears off. Germany cannot stop the demise; only keep the blood from making the floor slippery.. |
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On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: we doing OK?? You are being water boarded by the government you elected, and you're asking for more water. So be it. The rest of the world does not care! (except for 3rd world enemy ********s that you still send "aid" to.) |
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On 2-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote: USA nor Europe will recover without a further downturn. The fundamental problems of government-bank fraud still exist. In fact worse because of $15+ trillion of debt. And debt is pure consumption of wealth. If Americans want a wealthy health economy, they have to get a grip and realize that producers need to outnumber consumers. Currently America is consumption is far higher than production. Which means a fast recovery is just pure delusional bull****. Might get a good dose of inflation, but inflation isn't wealth. The only option for production is for "Americans" to refuse to send their lowly incomes overseas, but they are unwilling. The "government" isn't going to require Japan, Korea or China to balance trade; they get too many perks for maintaining the current trend. The so called "globalization:" is accurate, and occurred due to amazing communications over the past 20 years.. People in China (including the government) saw what used to exist in the U.S., emulated the activity, and beat "Americans" at what caused prosperity for 50 + years. Americans are no longer willing to compete - individually, or governmentally. |
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On 12/3/2011 2:11 PM, North Star wrote:
On Dec 3, 12:51 pm, wrote: In aweb.com, says... On 12/3/2011 10:13 AM, North Star wrote: On Dec 2, 10:24 pm, wrote: Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- snip Duh! Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any& all procedures.... and they charge for every person that so much as looks your way. Your provincial plan will cover what the same procedures cost to perform at home. Most US surgeons don't make house calls. What's the going rate for a triple bypass at your house in Noba Skosha. They wouldn't go there, they'd be afraid of disease from the garbage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At least I pay my medical bills........ at least I would if I ever got one. Which is it, domfoch? -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:07:45 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: There is no free trade, just an inevitable (due to actions by your government) golly. what country has 'free' trade? It was a LONG time ago, (hours maybe!!) but you brought up the phrase "free trade". As you have nothing to say, I suggest you print my information, tape it to an inside wall of your trailer actually i'll print it out and use it while in the smallest room in my house that way i wont waste toilet paper and read it several times a day. Also notice that it makes no difference to me what happens to your incfome, family or country's economy. My input was to help you, but you like things as they are in your country's waning days. uh huh. and how are things in somalia nowadays? |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:10:12 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: time in history. System is running on fraud money creation. yeah the socialists of the rich, using the middle class as a piggy bank, has destroyed the middle class, with the support of the right wing. The former middle class eliminated themselves by sending the majority of their disposable income overseas. The demise of the middle class was at their option. Natural selection will also prevail. uh no. they eliminated it giving it to the rich who sent their jobs overseas. you're too stupid to know about the american right wing. that happens when you dont follow the news |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:11:49 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: no one knows what the plan is for the euro. you're just a dip**** who thinks he knows... The plan for the Euro is to eliminate it which is why the germans are bankrolling it?? Novocain always wears off. Germany cannot stop the demise; only keep the blood from making the floor slippery.. HAHAHAHA so your argument that the US is failing is that germany and europe is failing too?? IOW you dont know what you're talking about |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:14:15 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: we doing OK?? You are being water boarded by the government you elected, he thinks i'm 300M americans yeah. the illiterate generally think in cliches and you're asking for more water. So be it. The rest of the world does not care! (except for 3rd world enemy ********s that you still send "aid" to.) so when you moving to greece? |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:45:42 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 7:06 PM, Haywood Jablomie wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, wrote: The U.S. couldn't bail out a lemonade stand. oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that Trading stock is wagering - flipping fees is icing on the collective (US and European) turd pile. I agree it is wagering, but the avantage isn't to the house. Vegas has percentages. The stock market is a zero sum game with inflation driving growth and dividends driving income. i love these guys taling 'inflation'...30 years ago...guess that happens in alzheimers What's wrong with you clowns? Why do you insist on sending your 1970's wages overseas? Yep, government is about wealth consumption and wealth confiscation. gee. let's look at countries with no govt well there's somalia...sudan how they doing? Nothing government does generates wealth guess he's never heard of the university of california, michigan, texas...alll world class govt funded instituions oh. he's too stupid to know about public goods. oh well the right never did know economics .. People who output stuff other people pay for are the producers. And producers be farmers, manufacturers, miners, oil drillers... I would love to tell 0bama that bull**** isn't a wealth creating product. gee. and how did bush do for us? oh. the worst depression in 80 years so much for right wing economics USA nor Europe will recover without a further downturn. The fundamental problems of government-bank fraud still exist. In fact worse because of $15+ trillion of debt. And debt is pure consumption of wealth. yep. you right wingers got it all figured out...destroy the middle class and you get all the money If Americans want a wealthy health economy, they have to get a grip and realize that producers need to outnumber consumers. Currently America is consumption is far higher than production. currently the richest 1% have had a 275% increase in income in 30 years but you're too dumb to notice...like a frog in boiling water |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:19:28 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote: USA nor Europe will recover without a further downturn. The fundamental problems of government-bank fraud still exist. In fact worse because of $15+ trillion of debt. And debt is pure consumption of wealth. If Americans want a wealthy health economy, they have to get a grip and realize that producers need to outnumber consumers. Currently America is consumption is far higher than production. Which means a fast recovery is just pure delusional bull****. Might get a good dose of inflation, but inflation isn't wealth. The only option for production is for "Americans" to refuse to send their lowly incomes overseas, but they are unwilling. he's too stupid to know most americans are right wing and LOVE to bankroll the wealthy |
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On 03/12/2011 6:49 AM, Haywood Jablomie wrote:
On 3-Dec-2011, wrote: DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? Rates are not low because demand is high. Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. Banks don't need to pay interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in the lend-borrow market place. And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact Social Security loses 5% value per year. Say $1000 in SS gets $10 interest. But it takes $1060 to buy the same stuff a year later. In value terms Social security is being skimmed by DC. Yep, they will collect more and pay out less in the long term. Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%, $10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait, you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%. Whole scale Bernanke-0bama fraud really. A zero rate economy of depreciating value of money. And part of why your going to be so ****ed in the end. Government isn't going to be able to increase your social security, Medicare and other benefits with inflation money print. But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. ...might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q. I think your being generous. Perhaps 55 if we add bpuharic and harryk together. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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On 03/12/2011 7:01 AM, Haywood Jablomie wrote:
On 2-Dec-2011, wrote: Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging population. And each day DC fleabaggerism goes on, the worse it gets. I figure USA is now well past an easy recovery. Too much real wealth is gone and the problem causes of government-banks is still underway digging a deeper hole. To recover, there has to something to be recovered. Your core economic base is gone. Productive output is not an option for 4 to 5 generations. What you need to do is adapt to a very uncomfortable living standard. Agreed. And that is why this economic downturn is going to be 2 decades. Just like Russia and others have done. I don't think it takes 4-5 generations. Perhaps 1 or 2. But certainly a lot longer than a year or three. Not really worried about me, I just have to pace inflation and I will not run out of cash flow until I am well over 100 and not likely to live that long. That is conservative too, as 2/3rd is tax paid and does not include pensions. Nope, the people really getting screwed are the mid-lifers and those loosing jobs they cannot replace and lost them to economic screw ups by their own government. Then they lose the house, the marriage...and almost impossible to recover from that. A major life setback. And my grand kids are also the ones really going to be screwed. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 03/12/2011 6:00 AM, bpuharic wrote:
yeah the socialists of the rich, using the middle class as a piggy bank, has destroyed the middle class, with the support of the right wing. Yep, you just described your hero 0bama. Yep, you worship the very people selling you out. YOU are responsible for this. YOU SOCIALISTS did this. your insistence that the middle class sit back and take it while the rich get richer THEN bailout the rich, with SOCIALISM, is at fault. Hardly, i can't vote in US elections. And only 1 vote in a sea of fleabaggers in Canada. I can't fight mass stupidity and irrationality driven by envy and greed. But I can protect myself from it. It is the only way government can keep the rates low is to create more no value inflation money. Started in earnest with the criminal Bernanke's appointment and democrat 2006 congress. inflation money. golly. 2% wow. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit.../inflation-cpi And that is if you believe government numbers, by their calculations gold should be $300/ounce, oil should be $30/barrel, food should be 1/2 price, homes are expensive even no compared to 1914. A middle class auto should be $16k or so. Fact is it is just more government bull****. Inflation is always higher than government quotes it at. And realized inflation isn't the same as pending inflation. For example if a companies raw material costs go up and they can offset it by laying people off to keep the rices the same, that is a hidden job loss inflation the government doesn't even factor in at all. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:50:29 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 03/12/2011 6:00 AM, bpuharic wrote: yeah the socialists of the rich, using the middle class as a piggy bank, has destroyed the middle class, with the support of the right wing. Yep, you just described your hero 0bama. Yep, you worship the very people selling you out. the racist klan klown thinks obama's been pres since 1980 YOU are responsible for this. YOU SOCIALISTS did this. your insistence that the middle class sit back and take it while the rich get richer THEN bailout the rich, with SOCIALISM, is at fault. Hardly, i can't vote in US elections. And only 1 vote in a sea of fleabaggers in Canada. I can't fight mass stupidity and irrationality driven by envy and greed. But I can protect myself from it. guess what, idiot. you can't. if society collapses, you cant protect yoruself. look at libya...the ultmiate victory of right wing ideology not too bright, are you? inflation money. golly. 2% wow. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit.../inflation-cpi hahhah he's too stupid to know that DEFLATION is worse than INFLATION... And that is if you believe government numbers, by their calculations gold should be $300/ounce, oil should be $30/barrel, food should be 1/2 price, homes are expensive even no compared to 1914. A middle class auto should be $16k or so. gold?? what's next? tulip bulbs? Fact is it is just more government bull****. Inflation is always higher than government quotes it at. fact is you dont know economics. where's inflation? it's measured by INDEPENDENT methods, and includes govt measurements. ever hear of purchasing power parity? THAT is a more reliable indicator of personal buying power but you're right wing...and stupid which is a redundancy And realized inflation isn't the same as pending inflation. For example if a companies raw material costs go up and they can offset it by laying people off to keep the rices the same, that is a hidden job loss inflation the government doesn't even factor in at all. you've been bitching about the 20% inflation rate for 2 years now where is it? tea leaves and chicken entrail reading... |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 03/12/2011 12:19 PM, Haywood Jablomie wrote:
On 2-Dec-2011, wrote: USA nor Europe will recover without a further downturn. The fundamental problems of government-bank fraud still exist. In fact worse because of $15+ trillion of debt. And debt is pure consumption of wealth. If Americans want a wealthy health economy, they have to get a grip and realize that producers need to outnumber consumers. Currently America is consumption is far higher than production. Which means a fast recovery is just pure delusional bull****. Might get a good dose of inflation, but inflation isn't wealth. The only option for production is for "Americans" to refuse to send their lowly incomes overseas, but they are unwilling. The "government" isn't going to require Japan, Korea or China to balance trade; they get too many perks for maintaining the current trend. The so called "globalization:" is accurate, and occurred due to amazing communications over the past 20 years.. People in China (including the government) saw what used to exist in the U.S., emulated the activity, and beat "Americans" at what caused prosperity for 50 + years. Americans are no longer willing to compete - individually, or governmentally. Protectionism will not work. If you double the cost of autos to keep union dogs like Government Motors alive, then far fewer people will buy them. Sure, you would get more for each one but far fewer buy so you could see less revenue. Pricing elastically will not allow protectionism to work. Another slight problem, USA can't build its own computers, TVs and a long list of other things. The original north american made PC was $9000 in 1980 dollars. About $25K today. How many are going to pay $25,000 for a laptop or desktop PC? Fact is protectionism could drive USA to third world status pretty darned quick. As for not wanting to compete, I agree. USA has given up competing, but irrationally expects the standard of living. Isn't going to happen. The only way out is to compete. Lose the envy, greed, entitlement and government corruption, roll up the sleeves and become lean, mean and productive machine USA was once known for. No nation was ever built on bull**** and corruption. But many have fallen from grace due to bull**** and corruption. Another reason why government can't fix the problems as government is a major part of the problem. Through political greed, the 0bama types prey and foster ignorance for their political gain. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 3-Dec-2011, North Star wrote: Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. *That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- snip Duh! Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any & all procedures.... Maybe THAT'S because your slimy government requires insurance companies to provide birth control, abortions, perscriptions, office calls and sex change operations to even functional people. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:28:18 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 3-Dec-2011, North Star wrote: Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. *That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- snip Duh! Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any & all procedures.... Maybe THAT'S because your slimy government requires insurance companies to provide birth control, abortions, perscriptions, office calls and sex change operations to even functional people. the moron doesnt know both abortion and birth control are MUCH cheaper than childbirth!! HHAHAHAHA typical right winger...wants women barefoot and pregnant doesnt even know birth control and abortion are covered in MANY countries what a MORON!! hates women. hates blacks... typical right winer |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: , in the U.S, until 2004 when the bottom fell out in U.S. manufacturing. That happened because the scum you've elected welcome imports from countries ah. 2004. yes, the right wing was at its pinnacle at that point thanks moron. you just made my point. res ipsa loquitur Please let me know where you made a point that will NOT allow your products into their country. Are you so ****ing stupid that you don't know that?? I now ship you junk from Asia, HAHAHAAH he doesn't know about NAFTA, etc!! OK, you're flooded from Mexico and South America also. ROFLMAO! he doesnt know what the right has done to this country...which is EXACTLY my point! he's complaining that i'm correct because i'm correct HAHAHAHAHA I've watched you assholes send your money to Japan how's japan doing by the way? There auto, steel and capital machinery industry far surpasses yours oh...the term 'lost decade' was invented for the and Korea for autos i've been to korea. i know the economy well. more than you know about US politics!! Of course you know their economy - much of it is in your house or driveway. There's almost nothing from the U.S. in Korea except your military (for 60 years) (free) I'm, really curious - what is your point? Mine is that you're screwing yourself with you voting and purchasing habits. It's not surprising that you, like 300 million other people in your country, don't understand that. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 3-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote: ...might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q. I think your being generous. Perhaps 55 if we add bpuharic and harryk together. Thank you, I try to be generous. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 14:19:34 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: Protectionism will not work. and here, for once, the crazed right wing moron and i agree. but it's also useless to race to the bottom trying to sell goods by cutting wages, destroying unions and eliminating healthcare, like the US does. If you double the cost of autos to keep union dogs like Government Motors alive, then far fewer people will buy them. Sure, you would get more for each one but far fewer buy so you could see less revenue. Pricing elastically will not allow protectionism to work. Another slight problem, USA can't build its own computers, TVs and a long list of other things. The original north american made PC was $9000 in 1980 dollars. About $25K today. How many are going to pay $25,000 for a laptop or desktop PC? yep the american right wing is involved in a race to the bottom as i pointed out above. a recent 'slate' article examined the reason the US is losing its edge. reasons 1 and 2? lack of commitment to education lack of labor unions so the right wing socialists have discovered a formula to enrich the rich while destroying the middle class Fact is protectionism could drive USA to third world status pretty darned quick. As for not wanting to compete, I agree. USA has given up competing, but irrationally expects the standard of living yep, typical right wing mythology. the right has the middle class convinced that, as long as we take care of the rich we'll be fine No nation was ever built on bull**** and corruption. But many have fallen from grace due to bull**** and corruption. the klanster hates blacks so he thinks obama was president since 1980 Another reason why government can't fix the problems as government is a major part of the problem. Through political greed, the 0bama types prey and foster ignorance for their political gain. more cliches and bullshti |
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