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good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:59:57 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, jps wrote: Why do people that spend their lives drinking beer and watching "Dancing for Dollars" resent those that worked 100 hours a week and achieved? I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar. Unless that allegation is delusional also. this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:05:16 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 1-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: You just explained that what you know comes from an idiot box. Where I live, there are no English speaking or "American" idiot box broadcasts. It's refreshing.....like the smell of napalm in the morning..........it smells like..................victory. and how's the euro doing today? oh. the US fed had to bail it out i see... The U.S. couldn't bail out a lemonade stand. oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that golly. you have everything but an argument What you USED to be able to do is borrow money from China, hand it out to 3rd world ********s, then confiscate money from your peasants to pay the bill. The assholes you put in the White House and Congress strive to accelerate that activity. tell you what you go dig up some evidence and c'mon back, OK? all i see here is drooling in your lobster bib |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: On 1-Dec-2011, wrote: and 3) You relentlessly send your money overseas while bitching about meaningless Yeah, good point, you're right. The decimation of your steel, dont study much do you? i grew up in pittsburgh. ever hear of it? know what its big product was, for generations? oh. steel. the demise of steel had more to do with the use of plastics in cars (common even in chinese cars) than with anything else electronics, capital machinery, auto, machine tools, ship building, stamping, tools and dies, consumer products, etc. etc. etc. has nothing to do with your future gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong manufacturing and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you. your whole argument is that the US is so weak that everyone wants to bank here. uh huh That was so funny. Then why are your banks broke and sucking on our grand kids futures? Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption outweighs economic production. People like me are moving money out of USA. As fast as we can. Just reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and going to take more out in January to defer the taxes.... Fact is savvy investors are unweighted in USA.....and why new jobs are not coming like they used to. Why deal with DC belligerence and denial of debt? Why risk for such a pathetic return? The only plays I do on USDs any more are short term opportunities that carry far less risk. Like 10,000 shares of foreign Seagate at $10.25 and sell them 6 weeks later for $16. Sure beats dog breath USA domest only crap. Kraft for example, the return isn't worth holding them. But USA is a zero-bama rate economy. Good part is I am up 17% for the year. Big tax bills coming in March/April. Yep, while America bulldozes homes, they build them in Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama and Brazil. Thinking about getting more stock in Brazil...a growing economy. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 2:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:59:57 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, wrote: Why do people that spend their lives drinking beer and watching "Dancing for Dollars" resent those that worked 100 hours a week and achieved? I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar. Unless that allegation is delusional also. this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. People stopped buying US Treasury debt a long time ago when rates went fraud low. Only stupid people buy US Treasuries. How it really works the US Treasury issues bonds. But no one really buys them. So Bernanke announces Quantitative Easing (electronic counterfeit run) and lends to Goldman Sachs or other preferred fraud intermediate company of corrupt at zero interest. Then they use the money via fractional banking to buy the glut of US Treasuries that yield 1% or so. Boils down to Goldman Sacks gets a zero risk 1% royalty and invested zero of their own money. They even do the above fraud between countries. And the ruse that US Treasuries are actually solvent paper. What you get is more debt for the kids and grand kids, a government you can't afford and inflation with devalued money and devalued incomes. Big fat US DC government, corrupt Goldman Sachs and US war machine pigs wins. The people lose. And all 0bama-Bernanke supported fraud. One of these days the value of a USD is going to plummet fast. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong manufacturing and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you. your whole argument is that the US is so weak that everyone wants to bank here. uh huh That was so funny. Then why are your banks broke and sucking on our grand kids futures? canuck seems unaware that our banks are broke but they're LESS broke than others and that's all that matters. but canuck is dull...dim witted...cliche bound....unable to think for himself beyond the racist cliches of the american president Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption outweighs economic production. how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK? People like me are moving money out of USA let's see US T bills have about a 1% interest because people are flocking to buy them oh. canuck doesnt know this because his racist views dont allow him to consider this .. As fast as we can. Just reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and going to take more out in January to defer the taxes.... no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories Yep, while America bulldozes homes, they build them in Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama and Brazil. Thinking about getting more stock in Brazil...a growing economy. says the guy who lives in a country with 30% union membership and socialized medicine who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a country |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:35:54 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:50 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:59:57 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. hey genius. if people didnt want US debt we'd be giving interest rates like italy and spain are paying but that's ECONOMICS...and canuck, the racist slug, can't understand it People stopped buying US Treasury debt a long time ago when rates went fraud low. Only stupid people buy US Treasuries. gee. then i guess the entire world is stupid 'cuz they entire world is buying US debt vs the euro christ he's stupid. even for a conservative. if there was a nobel prize for stupidity.... |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 2:52 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:05:16 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: On 1-Dec-2011, wrote: You just explained that what you know comes from an idiot box. Where I live, there are no English speaking or "American" idiot box broadcasts. It's refreshing.....like the smell of napalm in the morning..........it smells like..................victory. and how's the euro doing today? oh. the US fed had to bail it out i see... The U.S. couldn't bail out a lemonade stand. oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars That is to serve the rich. The plan is for the Euro to crash first. So billion in transfers is a lot of money and will get you president and congress to jump. and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that Temporary exuberation. Staved off the day of reckoning for a few months. golly. you have everything but an argument What you USED to be able to do is borrow money from China, hand it out to 3rd world ********s, then confiscate money from your peasants to pay the bill. The assholes you put in the White House and Congress strive to accelerate that activity. tell you what you go dig up some evidence and c'mon back, OK? all i see here is drooling in your lobster bib Since you know absolutely **** about economics and are destined to be forever poor, you should quit while you are ahead. Billionaires are moving abroad. even 0bama's buddy Warren Buffet is. 90% of the billionaires have significant holdings in gold, not much in US treasuries and many have a high "liquid" cash only position. All have big positions in one or more of China, Brazil, Russia, India, and other non-Euro and non-US real-estate and businesses related to resources. Rich are in fact positioning for a US collapse and poor US futures. And that includes tax screwing. It is why GE Medical is moving. Too many fleabaggers lost their way and DC too corrupt. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 12/2/11 8:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Since you know absolutely **** about economics Finally a bit of truth from you: you know **** about economics. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:10:04 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:52 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:05:16 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: On 1-Dec-2011, wrote: You just explained that what you know comes from an idiot box. Where I live, there are no English speaking or "American" idiot box broadcasts. It's refreshing.....like the smell of napalm in the morning..........it smells like..................victory. and how's the euro doing today? oh. the US fed had to bail it out oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars That is to serve the rich. The plan is for the Euro to crash first. So billion in transfers is a lot of money and will get you president and congress to jump. no one knows what the plan is for the euro. you're just a dip**** who thinks he knows... anything... which is a joke and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that Temporary exuberation. Staved off the day of reckoning for a few months. gee. doesnt do much for your argument that t bills are in the toilet, does it? so your argument is that t bills are wrecked except when they arent.... uh....ok... golly. you have everything but an argument What you USED to be able to do is borrow money from China, hand it out to 3rd world ********s, then confiscate money from your peasants to pay the bill. The assholes you put in the White House and Congress strive to accelerate that activity. tell you what you go dig up some evidence and c'mon back, OK? all i see here is drooling in your lobster bib Since you know absolutely **** about economics and are destined to be forever poor, you should quit while you are ahead. says the guy who rails against socialized medicine while living in a country with.... ahem.... Billionaires are moving abroad. even 0bama's buddy Warren Buffet is. great. let 'em go. how's our economy doing with the greatest number of billionaires in the world? we doing OK? 90% of the billionaires have significant holdings in gold, not much in US treasuries and many have a high "liquid" cash only position. All have big positions in one or more of China, Brazil, Russia, India, and other non-Euro and non-US real-estate and businesses related to resources. i betcha they're from UFO's too!! |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:11:53 -0500, X ` Man
wrote: On 12/2/11 8:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Since you know absolutely **** about economics Finally a bit of truth from you: you know **** about economics. he's now devolved into conspiracy theories...the last refuge of the terminally conservative |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 5:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong manufacturing and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you. your whole argument is that the US is so weak that everyone wants to bank here. uh huh That was so funny. Then why are your banks broke and sucking on our grand kids futures? canuck seems unaware that our banks are broke but they're LESS broke than others and that's all that matters. but canuck is dull...dim witted...cliche bound....unable to think for himself beyond the racist cliches of the american president Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption outweighs economic production. how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK? Funny, a stock I had in an Irish company gave me a return this year of 17%. I don't do Greece or Italy, too screwed up with too many fleabaggers. I did sell the Irish position though, too much Euro exposure. People like me are moving money out of USA let's see US T bills have about a 1% interest because people are flocking to buy them Funny, I know of no one that owns them and my friends are self made millionaires. In my billionaire readings, don't know of any of them that recommend US Treasuries. US Treasuries are junk paper, especially the longer the term as you can't get out without taking a bath when the **** really flies. Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets. . As fast as we can. Just reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and going to take more out in January to defer the taxes.... no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories Funny, some people have open minds that read and rationalize, others like yourself wallow in self pity and whining. Yep, while America bulldozes homes, they build them in Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama and Brazil. Thinking about getting more stock in Brazil...a growing economy. says the guy who lives in a country with 30% union membership and socialized medicine who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a country Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the system go to the USA. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html You need to learn to judge people how they walk and not how they talk. Politicians lie until their own lives are on the table. And Williams knew his chances were better in the USA. Says a lot when the top boss of Newfoundlands health care will not use his own services. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 5:52 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:35:54 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:50 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:59:57 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. hey genius. if people didnt want US debt we'd be giving interest rates like italy and spain are paying You are drummer than nails. Italy and Spain can't just print/electronically counterfeit money like the USA can. So they have to put on the brakes on spending and borrow real money at real rates. USA Bernanke US Fed just prints it. Trouble is it causes some mix of unemployment and inflation. USA hasn't borrow a significant mount of real money since late 2006. US Fed indirectly or directly owns the majority of US Treasury debt. And when debt comes due from real lenders, the lenders take their money and run, Bernanke just prints money for the next QE counterfeit run. China isn't increasing its holding in US debt, in fact it has been decreasing it. As has Japan. The result is the USD will depreciate fast, as currecny is like stock in the economy. Print twice as much, each share has half the value (inflation). gee. then i guess the entire world is stupid 'cuz they entire world is buying US debt vs the euro No one is buying US debt. US Fed buys it indirectly with electronic counterfeit in the ruse. Just because people take money out of Euro and into USDs doesn't mean it is in US Treasuries. You are too retarded to understand real economics. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: Yeah, good point, you're right. The decimation of your steel, dont study much do you? i grew up in pittsburgh. ever hear of it? know what its big product was, for generations? oh. steel. the demise of steel had more to do with the use of plastics in cars (common even in chinese cars) than with anything else Steel started the downward spiral in the late 70's when Jaoan was permitted to dump in the US. For your reference, the plastics industry is 60% of what it was 15 years ago. electronics, capital machinery, auto, machine tools, ship building, stamping, tools and dies, consumer products, etc. etc. etc. has nothing to do with your future gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong manufacturing Labor unions make for increased output?????????? It's not just the rust you're smoking in Pittsburg. and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you. your whole argument is that the US is so weak that everyone wants to bank here. Correct - there are many strong foreign banks in the US. uh huh |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:43:17 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 5:50 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption outweighs economic production. how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK? Funny, a stock I had in an Irish company gave me a return this year of 17%. I don't do Greece or Italy, too screwed up with too many fleabaggers. I did sell the Irish position though, too much Euro exposure. cantcha just see ol' canuck, in his waders and flannel shirt, sittin' around the pickle barrel, chaw in place, dazzlin' the locals with his readers digest stories!! i bet he's the biggest guy at the local general store US Treasuries are junk paper, golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and only 1% for T bills? oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of confidence uh huh especially the longer the term as you can't get out without taking a bath when the **** really flies. Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets. read that in 'sunset' magazine did you? . As fast as we can. Just reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and going to take more out in January to defer the taxes.... no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories Funny, some people have open minds that read and rationalize, others like yourself wallow in self pity and whining. you confuse your self aggrandizing bull**** stories with reality. that's what riight wingers do. who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a country Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the system go to the USA. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US? and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance? tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here with your canadian health insurance see how far you get |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar. Unless that allegation is delusional also. this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging population. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. hey genius. if people didnt want US debt we'd be giving interest rates like italy and spain are paying Try to grasp risk, and supply and demand. The U.S. pays higher interest rates because your debt is risky - that makes demand low, or, you need to pay a higher interest to sell it....well, the fact is, YOU pay the higher interest, not the scumbags that took you down the hill. You never should have skipped 4th grade economics. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 6:25 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:10:04 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:52 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:05:16 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: On 1-Dec-2011, wrote: You just explained that what you know comes from an idiot box. Where I live, there are no English speaking or "American" idiot box broadcasts. It's refreshing.....like the smell of napalm in the morning..........it smells like..................victory. and how's the euro doing today? oh. the US fed had to bail it out oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars That is to serve the rich. The plan is for the Euro to crash first. So billion in transfers is a lot of money and will get you president and congress to jump. no one knows what the plan is for the euro. you're just a dip**** who thinks he knows... anything... which is a joke and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that Temporary exuberation. Staved off the day of reckoning for a few months. gee. doesnt do much for your argument that t bills are in the toilet, does it? so your argument is that t bills are wrecked except when they arent.... uh....ok... golly. you have everything but an argument What you USED to be able to do is borrow money from China, hand it out to 3rd world ********s, then confiscate money from your peasants to pay the bill. The assholes you put in the White House and Congress strive to accelerate that activity. tell you what you go dig up some evidence and c'mon back, OK? all i see here is drooling in your lobster bib Since you know absolutely **** about economics and are destined to be forever poor, you should quit while you are ahead. says the guy who rails against socialized medicine while living in a country with.... ahem.... Billionaires are moving abroad. even 0bama's buddy Warren Buffet is. great. let 'em go. how's our economy doing with the greatest number of billionaires in the world? we doing OK? 90% of the billionaires have significant holdings in gold, not much in US treasuries and many have a high "liquid" cash only position. All have big positions in one or more of China, Brazil, Russia, India, and other non-Euro and non-US real-estate and businesses related to resources. i betcha they're from UFO's too!! Funny, if you like T-bills so much, you should buy them. But I know, never seen a fleabagger put his own money where his mouth is. Fact is t-bills are junk paper. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 01:54:01 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: Yeah, good point, you're right. The decimation of your steel, dont study much do you? i grew up in pittsburgh. ever hear of it? know what its big product was, for generations? oh. steel. the demise of steel had more to do with the use of plastics in cars (common even in chinese cars) than with anything else Steel started the downward spiral in the late 70's when Jaoan was permitted to dump in the US. For your reference, the plastics industry is 60% of what it was 15 years ago. fyi alot of plastics are in cars you seem unaware of the fact. are you that incredibley dense?? electronics, capital machinery, auto, machine tools, ship building, stamping, tools and dies, consumer products, etc. etc. etc. has nothing to do with your future gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong manufacturing Labor unions make for increased output?????????? It's not just the rust you're smoking in Pittsburg. let's see germany's manufactured exports are a greater portion of their GDP than the US. germany has 30% unions we have none IOW you dont know **** except what faux news tells you you, like all right wingers, think in cliches and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you. your whole argument is that the US is so weak that everyone wants to bank here. Correct - there are many strong foreign banks in the US. tell it to the spanish oh. you dont know what's happening in spain uh huh |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: The U.S. couldn't bail out a lemonade stand. oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that Trading stock is wagering - flipping fees is icing on the collective (US and European) turd pile. Output creates wealth, not government wagers, and you have no output. It's like getting a "90 days same as cash" deal on your funeral - you're still paying, and you're still dead. Europe cannot recover, and your government (just as bankrupt) will be on the same submerged ship. When productive countries stop buying flash paper from the US treasury, the US will stop the bogus, make-believe "deals." What's wrong with you clowns? Why do you insist on sending your 1970's wages overseas? |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:53:07 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 5:52 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:35:54 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:50 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:59:57 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. hey genius. if people didnt want US debt we'd be giving interest rates like italy and spain are paying You are drummer than nails. nah if that were the case i'd be conservative Italy and Spain can't just print/electronically counterfeit money like the USA can. BBBZZZZTTTT!!! WRONG!!! but thanks for playing. ever hear of the european central bank which can do EXACTLY that?? oh. you DIDNTknow that why am i not surprised? So they have to put on the brakes on spending and borrow real money at real rates. uh no they dont. and, in fact, they cant. because if they DID their economies would implode. italy's debt is manageable at 3%. at 7% it's impossible for them to manage their debt oh. you didnt know that USA Bernanke US Fed just prints it. Trouble is it causes some mix of unemployment and inflation. HAHAHAHAHA guess he hasnt looked at unemployment lately!! and inflation?? he's fighting events from 30 years ago. typical right winger. always looking in the rear view mirror The result is the USD will depreciate fast, as currecny is like stock in the economy. Print twice as much, each share has half the value (inflation). tell you what, let me know when they buy euros! HAHAHAHAHA gee. then i guess the entire world is stupid 'cuz they entire world is buying US debt vs the euro No one is buying US debt. US Fed buys it indirectly with electronic counterfeit in the ruse. uh huh. let's see...2 banks bank A and bank B (for you conservatives, B comes after A) bank A sells bonds at 6% bankB sells them at 1% everyone buys bank B's bills why? because they're MORE SECURE. and that's EXACTLY what's happening now oh. you didnt know that Just because people take money out of Euro and into USDs doesn't mean it is in US Treasuries. You are too retarded to understand real economics. says the guy who gets his economics from the readers digest while taking a dump |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: That is to serve the rich. The plan is for the Euro to crash first. So billion in transfers is a lot of money and will get you president and congress to jump. no one knows what the plan is for the euro. you're just a dip**** who thinks he knows... The plan for the Euro is to eliminate it, countries will publish their own currency, and memories of the failed collective will be a great lesson in history books for those that will still read. Europe's core problems are parallel to the US; handouts for all at train wreck costs, until the money is depleted and there's nothing more to borrow. What remains of the U.S. is only 2 years behind Europe. (If you're lucky) Your leaders and your populations solution? More of the same! You don't need luck, you need land to grow food and weapons to defend the land, if Walmart wages cover the property taxes. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:01:09 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. hey genius. if people didnt want US debt we'd be giving interest rates like italy and spain are paying Try to grasp risk, and supply and demand. The U.S. pays higher interest rates because your debt is risky - that makes demand low, or, you need to pay a higher interest to sell it....well, the fact is, YOU pay the higher interest, not the scumbags that took you down the hill. You never should have skipped 4th grade economics. ?? let's see...the US pays ONE percent italy pays FIVE percent and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!! HAHAHA conservatives cant even COUNT and they're lecturing about ECONOMICS!!! our RATES ARE LOW PRECISELY BECAUSE DEMAND IS HIGH!! DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? |
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On 2-Dec-2011, X ` Man wrote: Since you know absolutely **** about economics Finally a bit of truth from you: you know **** about economics. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug Couldn't even get a minumum wage job, huh? Why do you insist on sending your ****ant wages overseas? |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 01:58:05 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar. Unless that allegation is delusional also. this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging population. successful companies left here because the middle class has been destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:02:04 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 6:25 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:10:04 -0700, wrote: Billionaires are moving abroad. even 0bama's buddy Warren Buffet is. great. let 'em go. how's our economy doing with the greatest number of billionaires in the world? we doing OK? 90% of the billionaires have significant holdings in gold, not much in US treasuries and many have a high "liquid" cash only position. All have big positions in one or more of China, Brazil, Russia, India, and other non-Euro and non-US real-estate and businesses related to resources. i betcha they're from UFO's too!! Funny, if you like T-bills so much, you should buy them. But I know, never seen a fleabagger put his own money where his mouth is. Fact is t-bills are junk paper. this from a guy who thinks our rates are LOW because no one wants to buy our debt... that's amazing...how truly stupid right whiners are |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:11:44 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: That is to serve the rich. The plan is for the Euro to crash first. So billion in transfers is a lot of money and will get you president and congress to jump. no one knows what the plan is for the euro. you're just a dip**** who thinks he knows... The plan for the Euro is to eliminate it which is why the germans are bankrolling it?? HAHAHAHAHA , countries will publish their own currency, and memories of the failed collective will be a great lesson in history books for those that will still read. Europe's core problems are parallel to the US; handouts for all at train wreck costs, until the money is depleted and there's nothing more to borrow. What remains of the U.S. is only 2 years behind Europe. (If you're lucky) ah, yes, the crystal ball gazer knows all and tells all... |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:06:45 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: The U.S. couldn't bail out a lemonade stand. oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that Trading stock is wagering - flipping fees is icing on the collective (US and European) turd pile. you'll get no argument from me. but the right wing, True Believers they are in the wall street cult, seem to love it Output creates wealth, not government wagers, and you have no output. let's see...how's the US economy doing? one of the most free market economies in the world...home of the u of chicago school of economics...laissez faire capitalism.... we doing OK?? It's like getting a "90 days same as cash" deal on your funeral - you're still paying, and you're still dead. Europe cannot recover, and your government (just as bankrupt) will be on the same submerged ship. When productive countries stop buying flash paper from the US treasury, the US will stop the bogus, make-believe "deals." blah blah blah...take an overdose of hemorrhoid cream and disappear...whining and bitching is all you seem to know how to do |
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On 02/12/2011 6:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
US Treasuries are junk paper, golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and only 1% for T bills? Spanish have to borrow real money. In the US Bernanke prints it for Goldman Sachs to buy the US Treasury junk paper. Spain gave up that right when the Euro came in. No free lunch though. People pay in inflation/job loss like the USA or the government pays real interest for real money. Their system has less fraud in it actually. And why I am sell USA interests as fast as I can. On January 2013 I will be out of the USA completely. oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of confidence Know more than you, I have money. Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets. read that in 'sunset' magazine did you? Nope. Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the system go to the USA. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US? My guess is that because Candians in general have less economic liberty than Americans, they can't afford the quantities of booze, drugs and excesses the Americans can. We have less than 20% of the boats per capita than the USA for example. and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance? Haven't got a clue, I always paid my dues. I am not a fleabagger. The two times I used it they were pretty darned quick. tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here with your canadian health insurance see how far you get Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 6:58 PM, Haywood Jablomie wrote:
On 2-Dec-2011, wrote: I never watch dancing shows nor any of that other trash. My company is 20 years old and I've had to work my ass off to keep it afloat during hard times. But that work has paid off and we're lucky to have multinational brands rely on our software to help run their mission India will buy your company within 12 months for a nickle on the dollar. Unless that allegation is delusional also. this from the same guy who said the US economy is so weak that everyone is rushing to buy our debt or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other advantages such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging population. And each day DC fleabaggerism goes on, the worse it gets. I figure USA is now well past an easy recovery. Too much real wealth is gone and the problem causes of government-banks is still underway digging a deeper hole. All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:24:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 6:56 PM, bpuharic wrote: US Treasuries are junk paper, golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and only 1% for T bills? Spanish have to borrow real money. like euros?? HAHAHAHA In the US Bernanke prints it for Goldman Sachs to buy the US Treasury junk paper. Spain gave up that right when the Euro came in. ah. junk paper paying 1% vs spanish debt at 6 yet people are buying US t bills at 1% christ you really are stupid No free lunch though. People pay in inflation/job loss like the USA inflation?? what's next? UFO's? the lost continent of atlantis?? you right wingers bitch about inflation... uh..when has inflation last been a problem? care to tell us what DECADE that was?? or h avent you gotten that far in teh reader's digest yet? oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of confidence Know more than you, I have money. i work for a living. i'm not a socialist parasite, remember? i dont have socialized medicine Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the system go to the USA. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US? My guess is that because Candians in general have less economic liberty than Americans, they can't afford the quantities of booze, drugs and excesses the Americans can. We have less than 20% of the boats per capita than the USA for example. HAHAHAH he's saying canadians drink less than americans?? HAHAHAHAH let's see...30% of canadians live in toronto hell that's like 100M americans living in nebraska. no wonder you guys dont own boats!! you dont even know your own country! and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance? Haven't got a clue, I always paid my dues. I am not a fleabagger. The two times I used it they were pretty darned quick. IOW you hate the middle class thanks. i already knew that. tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here with your canadian health insurance see how far you get Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. That is why I carry extra private insurance so when I travel I am covered. gee. and longevity in canada is what compared to the US?? oh. longer so in your book somalia is a great country because the life expectancy is 35!! |
good news: obama beats romney according to GOP poll
On 02/12/2011 7:06 PM, Haywood Jablomie wrote:
On 2-Dec-2011, wrote: The U.S. couldn't bail out a lemonade stand. oh. you didnt follow the news over the last week. figures. you dont know that the fed reduced transaction costs for european central banks that swap euros for dollars and that the stock market went up 350 points because of that Trading stock is wagering - flipping fees is icing on the collective (US and European) turd pile. I agree it is wagering, but the avantage isn't to the house. Vegas has percentages. The stock market is a zero sum game with inflation driving growth and dividends driving income. I say zero sum as if I buy $100000 in stock and then after 100% I have $200000 the value change is zero. But does negate after income tax. But if you are lucky and smart, you can get more winners than losers there is better gains to be had. But where you beat the averages, someone lost on the averages so I call it zero sum. Output creates wealth, not government wagers, and you have no output. It's like getting a "90 days same as cash" deal on your funeral - you're still paying, and you're still dead. Europe cannot recover, and your government (just as bankrupt) will be on the same submerged ship. When productive countries stop buying flash paper from the US treasury, the US will stop the bogus, make-believe "deals." What's wrong with you clowns? Why do you insist on sending your 1970's wages overseas? Yep, government is about wealth consumption and wealth confiscation. Nothing government does generates wealth. People who output stuff other people pay for are the producers. And producers be farmers, manufacturers, miners, oil drillers... I would love to tell 0bama that bull**** isn't a wealth creating product. USA nor Europe will recover without a further downturn. The fundamental problems of government-bank fraud still exist. In fact worse because of $15+ trillion of debt. And debt is pure consumption of wealth. If Americans want a wealthy health economy, they have to get a grip and realize that producers need to outnumber consumers. Currently America is consumption is far higher than production. Which means a fast recovery is just pure delusional bull****. Might get a good dose of inflation, but inflation isn't wealth. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
... On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:43:17 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: On 02/12/2011 5:50 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption outweighs economic production. how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK? Funny, a stock I had in an Irish company gave me a return this year of 17%. I don't do Greece or Italy, too screwed up with too many fleabaggers. I did sell the Irish position though, too much Euro exposure. cantcha just see ol' canuck, in his waders and flannel shirt, sittin' around the pickle barrel, chaw in place, dazzlin' the locals with his readers digest stories!! i bet he's the biggest guy at the local general store US Treasuries are junk paper, golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and only 1% for T bills? oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of confidence uh huh especially the longer the term as you can't get out without taking a bath when the **** really flies. Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets. read that in 'sunset' magazine did you? . As fast as we can. Just reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and going to take more out in January to defer the taxes.... no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories Funny, some people have open minds that read and rationalize, others like yourself wallow in self pity and whining. you confuse your self aggrandizing bull**** stories with reality. that's what riight wingers do. who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a country Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the system go to the USA. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US? and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance? tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here with your canadian health insurance see how far you get ---------------------------------------------------- T-bills are being bought by the same people that are borrowing money from the Fed at 0.25% of less and then buying T-bills to hide the fact they can not sell T-bills otherwise. Our problem is the fully bundled labor cost in this country for manufacturing is an average of $65. We are priced out of the manufacturing market. Why should someone with maybe a GED putting lugnuts on a car going down a GM assembly line make more than you did as a degreed engineer? Figuring the wages, and benefits, they are making more than probably 80% of the engineers in the country. |
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
... On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:01:09 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote: or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. hey genius. if people didnt want US debt we'd be giving interest rates like italy and spain are paying Try to grasp risk, and supply and demand. The U.S. pays higher interest rates because your debt is risky - that makes demand low, or, you need to pay a higher interest to sell it....well, the fact is, YOU pay the higher interest, not the scumbags that took you down the hill. You never should have skipped 4th grade economics. ?? let's see...the US pays ONE percent italy pays FIVE percent and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!! HAHAHA conservatives cant even COUNT and they're lecturing about ECONOMICS!!! our RATES ARE LOW PRECISELY BECAUSE DEMAND IS HIGH!! DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? --------------------------------------------------------- We are paying 1% to banks we loaned money to for 0% to buy the debt. We are paying the extra in inflationary cost. The inflation cost is probably in the 6% or better range, so we are actually paying 7% for that money. |
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On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:42:41 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:43:17 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US? and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance? tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here with your canadian health insurance see how far you get ---------------------------------------------------- T-bills are being bought by the same people that are borrowing money from the Fed at 0.25% of less and then buying T-bills to hide the fact they can not sell T-bills otherwise. Our problem is the fully bundled labor cost in this country for manufacturing is an average of $65. We are priced out of the manufacturing market. Why should someone with maybe a GED putting lugnuts on a car going down a GM assembly line make more than you did as a degreed engineer? Figuring the wages, and benefits, they are making more than probably 80% of the engineers in the country. he doesn't get it. he asserts no one's buying t bills proof? uh...welll none. i guess he missed the part about bank A and bank B probably because he hasnt learned that part of the alphabet yet |
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On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:48:10 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:01:09 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: ?? let's see...the US pays ONE percent italy pays FIVE percent and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!! HAHAHA conservatives cant even COUNT and they're lecturing about ECONOMICS!!! our RATES ARE LOW PRECISELY BECAUSE DEMAND IS HIGH!! DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? --------------------------------------------------------- We are paying 1% to banks we loaned money to for 0% to buy the debt. We are paying the extra in inflationary cost. The inflation cost is probably in the 6% or better range, so we are actually paying 7% for that money. dontcha love the right wing... inflationary cost?? uh inflation's running about 2% but to the right wing, 5% is less than 1% and 2% is 6% and they want to run this country.... |
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On 02/12/2011 7:11 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:01:09 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: On 2-Dec-2011, wrote: or whatever he believes; he hasnt made a coherent argument yet Big myth, people buying the debt. US Fed is fraud printing it. hey genius. if people didnt want US debt we'd be giving interest rates like italy and spain are paying Try to grasp risk, and supply and demand. The U.S. pays higher interest rates because your debt is risky - that makes demand low, or, you need to pay a higher interest to sell it....well, the fact is, YOU pay the higher interest, not the scumbags that took you down the hill. You never should have skipped 4th grade economics. ?? let's see...the US pays ONE percent italy pays FIVE percent and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!! HAHAHA conservatives cant even COUNT and they're lecturing about ECONOMICS!!! our RATES ARE LOW PRECISELY BECAUSE DEMAND IS HIGH!! DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? Rates are not low because demand is high. Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. Banks don't need to pay interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in the lend-borrow market place. And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact Social Security loses 5% value per year. Say $1000 in SS gets $10 interest. But it takes $1060 to buy the same stuff a year later. In value terms Social security is being skimmed by DC. Yep, they will collect more and pay out less in the long term. Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%, $10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait, you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%. Whole scale Bernanke-0bama fraud really. A zero rate economy of depreciating value of money. And part of why your going to be so ****ed in the end. Government isn't going to be able to increase your social security, Medicare and other benefits with inflation money print. But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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On 02/12/2011 7:13 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:02:04 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 6:25 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:10:04 -0700, wrote: Billionaires are moving abroad. even 0bama's buddy Warren Buffet is. great. let 'em go. how's our economy doing with the greatest number of billionaires in the world? we doing OK? 90% of the billionaires have significant holdings in gold, not much in US treasuries and many have a high "liquid" cash only position. All have big positions in one or more of China, Brazil, Russia, India, and other non-Euro and non-US real-estate and businesses related to resources. i betcha they're from UFO's too!! Funny, if you like T-bills so much, you should buy them. But I know, never seen a fleabagger put his own money where his mouth is. Fact is t-bills are junk paper. this from a guy who thinks our rates are LOW because no one wants to buy our debt... that's amazing...how truly stupid right whiners are Look carefully, lenders using real money have not been lending real money to government and decreasing now for 6 years. Government US Fed now owns more US debt (directly or indirectly) as a percentage than any time in history. System is running on fraud money creation. It is the only way government can keep the rates low is to create more no value inflation money. Started in earnest with the criminal Bernanke's appointment and democrat 2006 congress. They caused the US depression with it too. And zero-bama makes it worse by debt spending so much of the no-value money putting it in circulation. As it is spent, it generates inflation. So look at it like government debt spending is driving inflation and unemployment. It is materially correct in the current economic model. As about 12% f the money is inflation, but wages are down at 2% increases, a 10% is being made up in job loss and cost cutting. Not sustainable ether as a point comes where it doesn't work, an then **** really happens. And that point I think has been reached. Inflation in 2012 is going to go nuts. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:32:01 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 7:11 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:01:09 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: our RATES ARE LOW PRECISELY BECAUSE DEMAND IS HIGH!! DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? Rates are not low because demand is high. Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. so he starts out by saying rates are low because... they're low!!! who knew!! Banks don't need to pay interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in the lend-borrow market place. uh no. if they HAD to lend at a higher rate to attract buyers they would. you see, that's how it works. you buy a bond because of the rates. if one bond is selling at 1% and another at 5% which would YOU buy?? oh. you're right wing. you dont know 5% is more than 1%. i forgot about that. and why are t bills at 1%? because they attract buyers at that rate, vs the 5% of spanish and italian bonds. and why are t bills selling at 1%? because people perceive them to be more secure than spanish or italian bonds. christ you're an idiot. And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact Social Security loses 5% value per year. uh huh. 6% inflation? golly. where? oh. in 1986. i forgot, again. you right wingers are 25 years in the past. Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%, $10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait, you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%. and yet you could get FIVE percent by buying SPANISH debt but no one is. why? because US t bills are MORE SECURE than spanish bonds are compared to youi, a bag of rocks is einstein |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:42:05 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 02/12/2011 7:13 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:02:04 -0700, wrote: this from a guy who thinks our rates are LOW because no one wants to buy our debt... that's amazing...how truly stupid right whiners are Look carefully, lenders using real money have not been lending real money to government and decreasing now for 6 years. Government US Fed now owns more US debt (directly or indirectly) as a percentage than any time in history. System is running on fraud money creation. yeah the socialists of the rich, using the middle class as a piggy bank, has destroyed the middle class, with the support of the right wing. YOU are responsible for this. YOU SOCIALISTS did this. your insistence that the middle class sit back and take it while the rich get richer THEN bailout the rich, with SOCIALISM, is at fault. It is the only way government can keep the rates low is to create more no value inflation money. Started in earnest with the criminal Bernanke's appointment and democrat 2006 congress. inflation money. golly. 2% wow. |
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On 12/3/11 7:58 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:32:01 -0700, wrote: On 02/12/2011 7:11 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 02:01:09 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie" wrote: our RATES ARE LOW PRECISELY BECAUSE DEMAND IS HIGH!! DUH!!! christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how to count to FIVE??? Rates are not low because demand is high. Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. so he starts out by saying rates are low because... they're low!!! who knew!! Banks don't need to pay interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in the lend-borrow market place. uh no. if they HAD to lend at a higher rate to attract buyers they would. you see, that's how it works. you buy a bond because of the rates. if one bond is selling at 1% and another at 5% which would YOU buy?? oh. you're right wing. you dont know 5% is more than 1%. i forgot about that. and why are t bills at 1%? because they attract buyers at that rate, vs the 5% of spanish and italian bonds. and why are t bills selling at 1%? because people perceive them to be more secure than spanish or italian bonds. christ you're an idiot. And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact Social Security loses 5% value per year. uh huh. 6% inflation? golly. where? oh. in 1986. i forgot, again. you right wingers are 25 years in the past. Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%, $10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait, you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%. and yet you could get FIVE percent by buying SPANISH debt but no one is. why? because US t bills are MORE SECURE than spanish bonds are compared to youi, a bag of rocks is einstein You don't actually believe Canuckles is an "investor," do you? -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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