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RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H
wrote: Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity. === Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability, braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy them? |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:03:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H wrote: Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity. === Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability, braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy them? You made me get out the book. The K3500 regular cab with single rear wheels can pull a max trailer weight of 15,400 lbs. With dual rear wheels the max weight is 16,500 lbs. Personally, I don't think the extra 1100 lbs is worth it, but if you've got a trailer weighing that much, then the dually becomes necessary. For 9000 lbs, I wouldn't even think about it. |
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RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/28/2011 2:07 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/28/11 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote: You mean the Crown Corp did not contribute? And if it is not government funded, you may need to cut back on you living standards. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n11/data/11-032_2-eng.asp Appears as if a lot of those Canadian pensions are underfunded. Perhaps, California Swill, you could get a consulting appointment with the Canadian government and show it how to skirt the laws on hiring illegals at shape-ups to perform home repair tasks. That way, you have no employer social security payments, no tax records, no unemployment comp payments, no workers' comp payments. That is how you did it, right? I wonder if the guy you hired to build your deck was properly documented and operating legally. Did he collect taxes on the materials he supplied? -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:45:03 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:03:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H wrote: Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity. === Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability, braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy them? You made me get out the book. The K3500 regular cab with single rear wheels can pull a max trailer weight of 15,400 lbs. With dual rear wheels the max weight is 16,500 lbs. Personally, I don't think the extra 1100 lbs is worth it, but if you've got a trailer weighing that much, then the dually becomes necessary. For 9000 lbs, I wouldn't even think about it. I think he's talking about a 9,000 lb boat plus fuel, water, supplies and trailer weight. I'd guess something more like 13,000 or 14,000 lbs going down the road. The issue is tongue weight, a dually will certainly be able to handle more tongue weight. === You'd think, and all of that extra rubber on the road has got to make a contribution to stabilty and braking. You've also got the safety issue with redundant rear tires. If it was me, I'd get a crew cab dualie. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
"X ` Man" wrote in message ...
On 11/28/11 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote: You mean the Crown Corp did not contribute? And if it is not government funded, you may need to cut back on you living standards. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n11/data/11-032_2-eng.asp Appears as if a lot of those Canadian pensions are underfunded. Perhaps, California Swill, you could get a consulting appointment with the Canadian government and show it how to skirt the laws on hiring illegals at shape-ups to perform home repair tasks. That way, you have no employer social security payments, no tax records, no unemployment comp payments, no workers' comp payments. That is how you did it, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe you did it that way. But I had licensed drivers. I owned a construction equipment leasing company. I do not think we ever had a Hispanic employee. They would have probably worked harder and more reliably than some we had. I had city permits, state permits, paid FUTA, sales tax, and all those others fees. Only time I hired illegals is because the ones I requested from the Calif EDD did not show up to clean up the In-laws house for sale. Same people who probably claim they can not get a job. Now you, most likely would hire a cheap illegal to build that deck as you are incapable of doing the job yourself. |
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On 11/28/11 7:36 PM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 11/28/11 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote: You mean the Crown Corp did not contribute? And if it is not government funded, you may need to cut back on you living standards. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n11/data/11-032_2-eng.asp Appears as if a lot of those Canadian pensions are underfunded. Perhaps, California Swill, you could get a consulting appointment with the Canadian government and show it how to skirt the laws on hiring illegals at shape-ups to perform home repair tasks. That way, you have no employer social security payments, no tax records, no unemployment comp payments, no workers' comp payments. That is how you did it, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe you did it that way. But I had licensed drivers. I owned a construction equipment leasing company. I do not think we ever had a Hispanic employee. They would have probably worked harder and more reliably than some we had. I had city permits, state permits, paid FUTA, sales tax, and all those others fees. Only time I hired illegals is because the ones I requested from the Calif EDD did not show up to clean up the In-laws house for sale. Same people who probably claim they can not get a job. Now you, most likely would hire a cheap illegal to build that deck as you are incapable of doing the job yourself. Uh, that's not how you ran your retirement business, according to your own words here. Oh...the deck guy? Local carpenter's apprentice, by now a journeyman. Born right here in the county. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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North Star wrote:
On Nov 27, 5:33 pm, wrote: "North Star" wrote in message ... On Nov 26, 11:59 pm, wrote: "North Star" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 2:48 pm, wrote: "North Star" wrote in message .... On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg.. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. -------------------------------------------------------------- Now it is the expense of the truck. My diesel truck gets 19 mpg highway, cost $45k new. My 99' Ford Expedition got about 15.5 highway and cost $42k. My wife's 2009 Venza cost $36k and gets about 24 highway. If you can afford to buy an expensive vehicle you buy it because you like it. My friend has a Lexus wagon so he can haul his 2 Rottweiler's, he wanted another Audi but they did not make the wagon type when he bought. He gets 13mpg on average. So just because the vehicle is smaller does not mean it gets better mileage. Why would somebody buy a Porsche Cayenne when they could buy the same car body as a VW tourag. They may be able to afford a luxury car. Just because you can not afford a better car or better boat, do not knock others choices.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You in the sauce again Swill?? Who says I can't afford something larger or 'better'?? ------------------------------------------------------------------ I say you can not afford better ****! You bitch about a **** poor pension from a government corporation. In other words the taxpayers pay your pittance. If you did not judge others by your or your sons love of alcoholic beverages, you would be both smarter and richer. Especially with the taxes Canada applies to alcohol.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You simple swiller. I made all the contributions to my crown Corp pension for the last ten years of my working life. Interest earned on the funds investments paid the Corporations share. ---------------------------------------------- does not mean there is not taxpayer money going to your pension also. You sucking at the public money swill pile. And just because you get a pension, does not mean you can afford a better / bigger truck.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Duh! What part of 100%employee funded pension didn't you understand? The Corp used to contribute slightly more than half.. but didn't do so for years. I could have bought a Ford F150 basic truck or a Chev/GMC equivalent for about 7 grand less than my RAV4 cost. That is a regular cab and 8 foot box with 2WD, 6 cyl engine, auto transmission + air conditioning. You really got screwed on that deal! -HB |
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North Star wrote:
On Nov 27, 9:18 pm, wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:11:25 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote: Duh! What part of 100%employee funded pension didn't you understand? The Corp used to contribute slightly more than half.. but didn't do so for years. I could have bought a Ford F150 basic truck or a Chev/GMC equivalent for about 7 grand less than my RAV4 cost. That is a regular cab and 8 foot box with 2WD, 6 cyl engine, auto transmission + air conditioning. ======== Do you really need air conditioning in Halifax? I'd just roll the windows down on those few warm days you get. I Did just that for my first 30 years of driving. Got to the point where I'd get sleepy on long highway trips with the windows closed and the sun streaming in.. now I feel that I do need air conditioning those half to a full dozen days a year. The booze makes you sleepy, Don. -HB |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:22:14 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:45:03 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:03:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H wrote: Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity. === Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability, braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy them? You made me get out the book. The K3500 regular cab with single rear wheels can pull a max trailer weight of 15,400 lbs. With dual rear wheels the max weight is 16,500 lbs. Personally, I don't think the extra 1100 lbs is worth it, but if you've got a trailer weighing that much, then the dually becomes necessary. For 9000 lbs, I wouldn't even think about it. I think he's talking about a 9,000 lb boat plus fuel, water, supplies and trailer weight. I'd guess something more like 13,000 or 14,000 lbs going down the road. The issue is tongue weight, a dually will certainly be able to handle more tongue weight. === You'd think, and all of that extra rubber on the road has got to make a contribution to stabilty and braking. You've also got the safety issue with redundant rear tires. If it was me, I'd get a crew cab dualie. 6400 dry maybe 9000 or a bit more with 100 gal fuel and 40 water, plus a few heavy items like the generator and air conditioner. It has trailer lights built into the back of the boat and is only 8 1/2 feet wide. Casady |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:58:05 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:36:22 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. ==== Over height is probably not an issue unless it has a flybridge or tower. Over width is quite likely but not by a huge amount, easily remedied with the right signs and permits. Over height was a stretch, but since I lacked information on the trailer and complete information on the boat, it seemed necessary to mention. Over width is almost assured, since the boat, alone, is at the legal limit. Any guide-ons will exceed the legal limit. Over "size" is not trivial. It requires (based on location) combinations of lights, signs, permits, flags, banners, pilot cars and limitations on travel after dark, before dawn, on holidays and days preceding and succeeding. To me, a deal breaker. Only the OP knows the particulars and, now, armed with the right questions, can tell US what the right tow vehicle is. The boat was designed with a narrow beam in order to be trailerable. The picture of it on the ramp shows a trailer a good two feet narrower than the boat. It has a foot deep keel to keep it from shifting from side to side. With bow and stern thrusters to help it might not be too hard to load. The mast folds for a hight, floating of just a bit over niine feet. As for launching it light, in Iowa there is no such thing as a marina with diesel or sanitary pump out. The lake where I have done my boating for the last fifty years, has just one gas pump, not even one resort, all private homes. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/29/2011 8:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article76GdnQg99KclrEnTnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/28/11 7:36 PM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 11/28/11 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote: You mean the Crown Corp did not contribute? And if it is not government funded, you may need to cut back on you living standards. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n11/data/11-032_2-eng.asp Appears as if a lot of those Canadian pensions are underfunded. Perhaps, California Swill, you could get a consulting appointment with the Canadian government and show it how to skirt the laws on hiring illegals at shape-ups to perform home repair tasks. That way, you have no employer social security payments, no tax records, no unemployment comp payments, no workers' comp payments. That is how you did it, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe you did it that way. But I had licensed drivers. I owned a construction equipment leasing company. I do not think we ever had a Hispanic employee. They would have probably worked harder and more reliably than some we had. I had city permits, state permits, paid FUTA, sales tax, and all those others fees. Only time I hired illegals is because the ones I requested from the Calif EDD did not show up to clean up the In-laws house for sale. Same people who probably claim they can not get a job. Now you, most likely would hire a cheap illegal to build that deck as you are incapable of doing the job yourself. Uh, that's not how you ran your retirement business, according to your own words here. Oh...the deck guy? Local carpenter's apprentice, by now a journeyman. Born right here in the county. Whoopsy........ you said YOU built the deck with a helper. At least that was your story until it was pointed out that the contractor's trailer was in the picture! I don't know how hamstrung these unions keep their apprentices but I'm thinking apprentices aren't allowed to take on unauthorized side work. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:22:14 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:45:03 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:03:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H wrote: Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity. === Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability, braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy them? You made me get out the book. The K3500 regular cab with single rear wheels can pull a max trailer weight of 15,400 lbs. With dual rear wheels the max weight is 16,500 lbs. Personally, I don't think the extra 1100 lbs is worth it, but if you've got a trailer weighing that much, then the dually becomes necessary. For 9000 lbs, I wouldn't even think about it. I think he's talking about a 9,000 lb boat plus fuel, water, supplies and trailer weight. I'd guess something more like 13,000 or 14,000 lbs going down the road. The issue is tongue weight, a dually will certainly be able to handle more tongue weight. === You'd think, and all of that extra rubber on the road has got to make a contribution to stabilty and braking. You've also got the safety issue with redundant rear tires. If it was me, I'd get a crew cab dualie. I'm thinking the extra rubber adds to the breaking, but that it's included in the calculations of max towing capacity. The frame of the truck remains the same. The tongue weight should be 10-15% of the trailer weight up to a max, for the 2500HD or 3500HD, of 750 lbs. With a weight distributing hitch, that goes up 1500 lbs. The book makes no distinction for hitch weight changes with regard to duallys. For fifth wheel trailers, the kingpin weight should be 15-25% of the trailer weight, up to the max trailer weight as I mentioned earlier (15,400 or 16,500). All of this is for a 2009 model Silverado. |
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On Nov 29, 9:18*am, Richard Casady
wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:58:05 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:36:22 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. ==== Over height is probably not an issue unless it has a flybridge or tower. *Over width is quite likely but not by a huge amount, easily remedied with the right signs and permits. Over height was a stretch, but since I lacked information on the trailer and complete information on the boat, it seemed necessary to mention. Over width is almost assured, since the boat, alone, is at the legal limit. Any guide-ons will exceed the legal limit. Over "size" is not trivial. It requires (based on location) combinations of lights, signs, permits, flags, banners, pilot cars and limitations on travel after dark, before dawn, on holidays and days preceding and succeeding. To me, a deal breaker. Only the OP knows the particulars and, now, armed with the right questions, can tell US what the right tow vehicle is. The boat was designed with a narrow beam in order to be trailerable. The picture of it on the ramp shows a trailer a good two feet narrower than the boat. It has a foot deep keel to keep it from shifting from side to side. With bow and stern thrusters to help it might not be too hard to load. The mast folds for a hight, floating of just a bit over niine feet. As for launching it light, in Iowa there is no such thing as a marina with diesel or sanitary pump out. The lake where I have done my boating for the last fifty years, has just one gas pump, not even one resort, all private homes. I don't recall a picture, and couldn't find it when reviewing the posts. Could you repost it, or a link, please? |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:39:57 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:03:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H wrote: Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity. === Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability, braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy them? You made me get out the book. The K3500 regular cab with single rear wheels can pull a max trailer weight of 15,400 lbs. With dual rear wheels the max weight is 16,500 lbs. Personally, I don't think the extra 1100 lbs is worth it, but if you've got a trailer weighing that much, then the dually becomes necessary. For 9000 lbs, I wouldn't even think about it. The issue is tongue weight, a dually will certainly be able to handle more tongue weight. ------------------------------------------- Probably not much difference in tongue weight. But more stability as they have a wider footprint. Probably not much difference in fuel mileage, but for that size boat, if not in berth, I would find storage near the ramp and only tow it a short distance. Sort of like they do in Hawaii. As I said earlier, max tongue weight is dependant on max trailer weight and type hitch used. There is no distinction for tire configuration except for the max trailer weight difference of about 1100 lbs. |
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In article m,
says... On 11/29/2011 8:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article76GdnQg99KclrEnTnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/28/11 7:36 PM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 11/28/11 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote: You mean the Crown Corp did not contribute? And if it is not government funded, you may need to cut back on you living standards. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n11/data/11-032_2-eng.asp Appears as if a lot of those Canadian pensions are underfunded. Perhaps, California Swill, you could get a consulting appointment with the Canadian government and show it how to skirt the laws on hiring illegals at shape-ups to perform home repair tasks. That way, you have no employer social security payments, no tax records, no unemployment comp payments, no workers' comp payments. That is how you did it, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe you did it that way. But I had licensed drivers. I owned a construction equipment leasing company. I do not think we ever had a Hispanic employee. They would have probably worked harder and more reliably than some we had. I had city permits, state permits, paid FUTA, sales tax, and all those others fees. Only time I hired illegals is because the ones I requested from the Calif EDD did not show up to clean up the In-laws house for sale. Same people who probably claim they can not get a job. Now you, most likely would hire a cheap illegal to build that deck as you are incapable of doing the job yourself. Uh, that's not how you ran your retirement business, according to your own words here. Oh...the deck guy? Local carpenter's apprentice, by now a journeyman. Born right here in the county. Whoopsy........ you said YOU built the deck with a helper. At least that was your story until it was pointed out that the contractor's trailer was in the picture! I don't know how hamstrung these unions keep their apprentices but I'm thinking apprentices aren't allowed to take on unauthorized side work. How does the union agent get his cut? |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ |
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"X ` Man" wrote in message
m... On 11/28/11 7:36 PM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 11/28/11 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote: You mean the Crown Corp did not contribute? And if it is not government funded, you may need to cut back on you living standards. http://www.fin.gc.ca/n11/data/11-032_2-eng.asp Appears as if a lot of those Canadian pensions are underfunded. Perhaps, California Swill, you could get a consulting appointment with the Canadian government and show it how to skirt the laws on hiring illegals at shape-ups to perform home repair tasks. That way, you have no employer social security payments, no tax records, no unemployment comp payments, no workers' comp payments. That is how you did it, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe you did it that way. But I had licensed drivers. I owned a construction equipment leasing company. I do not think we ever had a Hispanic employee. They would have probably worked harder and more reliably than some we had. I had city permits, state permits, paid FUTA, sales tax, and all those others fees. Only time I hired illegals is because the ones I requested from the Calif EDD did not show up to clean up the In-laws house for sale. Same people who probably claim they can not get a job. Now you, most likely would hire a cheap illegal to build that deck as you are incapable of doing the job yourself. Uh, that's not how you ran your retirement business, according to your own words here. Oh...the deck guy? Local carpenter's apprentice, by now a journeyman. Born right here in the county. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug ---------------------------------------------- My retirement business never hired workers. |
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On 11/30/11 12:39 PM, Califbill wrote:
My retirement business never hired workers. Ahh...you were able to avoid the "mess" of payrolling them, eh? -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
John H wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. Try this.... http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf -HB |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/30/2011 8:21 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. Try this.... http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf -HB Noice... how much fuel would it use in a typical weekend? |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:25:26 -0500, JustWait
wrote: how much fuel would it use in a typical weekend? === Depends on how you use it. It comes with a 260 hp diesel. At 80% of wide open throttle it will probably plane off at 18 to 20 kts if you don't load it too heavily. At that speed it will be burning about 10 gallons per hour. If you back off to 50% of WOT fuel burn will drop to 6 or 7 gph but speed will be quite a bit slower, most likely not on plane. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:21:34 -0500, Honey Badger wrote:
John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4 is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small Bayliner? I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser. 260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it? Casady Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could be a deal breaker. The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer, which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be more on the trailer. http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/ Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer. Try this.... http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf -HB Thanks. That's a nice looking boat. And, it appears that the Dodge Ram 2500 diesel has about 22K lbs towing capacity, so it should handle that pretty well - if you can stand riding in a Dodge pickup. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:09:29 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:25:26 -0500, JustWait wrote: how much fuel would it use in a typical weekend? === Depends on how you use it. It comes with a 260 hp diesel. At 80% of wide open throttle it will probably plane off at 18 to 20 kts if you don't load it too heavily. At that speed it will be burning about 10 gallons per hour. If you back off to 50% of WOT fuel burn will drop to 6 or 7 gph but speed will be quite a bit slower, most likely not on plane. You overestimate the fuel burn by about 50%. It isn't a trawler, it has a high speed flat bottom planing hull with a keel, a huge foot deep skeg under the aft third. protecting the prop and rudder, bulged to lower the engine and reduce the shaft angle. It will do 29 kts at WOT, 4050 RPM, burning 13.6 gph.. 3.9kt at 670 RPM on .3 gph. At 1000 RPM, 5.4 on .6 thats 10 mpg at Manatee speed. It planes at 1400. 3000 RPM burns 6.6 at 18.6. Seems to be the speed for best mpg. At 3500 RPM, probably about max continuous,you get 23. Where I have been boating for 57 years, Spirit Lake, on the Iowa/Minnesota border, it is less than 10 minutes run from anywhere to our beach. Easy to find with Google maps. Casady |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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m... On 11/30/11 12:39 PM, Califbill wrote: My retirement business never hired workers. Ahh...you were able to avoid the "mess" of payrolling them, eh? -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug ---------------------------------------------------------- Unlike you who hire scab workers to do your deck, etc. Buy from Wal-Mart and claim not to. I do not tell untruths. My home business was a single worker business. Never stated, you lying fat blob of workless ****, that I hired illegals for my business. Now you, I can see hiring underpaid, under the table workers, if you ever did work that is. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 12/3/2011 1:24 AM, Califbill wrote:
"X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 11/30/11 12:39 PM, Califbill wrote: My retirement business never hired workers. Ahh...you were able to avoid the "mess" of payrolling them, eh? Harry is still living off his daddys money. He ducked out on Vietnam, ducked out on work of any kind for the last 50 years... |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 12/3/11 5:43 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/3/2011 1:24 AM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 11/30/11 12:39 PM, Califbill wrote: My retirement business never hired workers. Ahh...you were able to avoid the "mess" of payrolling them, eh? Harry is still living off his daddys money. He ducked out on Vietnam, ducked out on work of any kind for the last 50 years... Still delusional, eh, "half-a-man" iSnotty? My father didn't leave me a dime. My mother was his sole inheritor. When he died, my mother and I had the retail boat store demolished and along with two other partners, developed it into a nice strip mall. I put a chunk of my own cash into the development of that mall, though less than my partners because of our "land grant." I didn't "duck out" on Vietnam. Like the majority of young men in my age bracket, I wasn't drafted. I also wasn't so dumb that I would volunteer for an army intent on killing a million Asians who posed no threat to the United States or its close allies. I think it is telling that the only real employment you've had as an adult male was basically the same job I held for a college summer, as an unskilled warehouse laborer. You claimed your mom "ran" the public schools in your area...couldn't she get a local public community college to waive its admission standards and let you in the door? Next time you're at the free clinic, see if you can get the nurse practitioner to adjust your dosage of Risperdal. You need more. Now...enjoy another of your semi-comatose days, little man. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 12/3/2011 7:31 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/3/11 5:43 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/3/2011 1:24 AM, Califbill wrote: "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 11/30/11 12:39 PM, Califbill wrote: My retirement business never hired workers. Ahh...you were able to avoid the "mess" of payrolling them, eh? Harry is still living off his daddys money. He ducked out on Vietnam, ducked out on work of any kind for the last 50 years... Still delusional, eh, "half-a-man" iSnotty? My father didn't leave me a dime. My mother was his sole inheritor. When he died, my mother and I had the retail boat store demolished and along with two other partners, developed it into a nice strip mall. I put a chunk of my own cash into the development of that mall, though less than my partners because of our "land grant." I didn't "duck out" on Vietnam. Like the majority of young men in my age bracket, I wasn't drafted. I also wasn't so dumb that I would volunteer for an army intent on killing a million Asians who posed no threat to the United States or its close allies. I think it is telling that the only real employment you've had as an adult male was basically the same job I held for a college summer, as an unskilled warehouse laborer. You claimed your mom "ran" the public schools in your area...couldn't she get a local public community college to waive its admission standards and let you in the door? Next time you're at the free clinic, see if you can get the nurse practitioner to adjust your dosage of Risperdal. You need more. Now...enjoy another of your semi-comatose days, little man. Scott had it mostly right. He left out the part where mommy dearest was declared incompetent and shipped off to a rest home in South Florida where she would be out of sight and out of mind. That was her reward for raising and coddling a real pussy of a man. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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says... In article , says... "X ` Man" wrote in message m... On 11/30/11 12:39 PM, Califbill wrote: My retirement business never hired workers. Ahh...you were able to avoid the "mess" of payrolling them, eh? The funny thing is that he's now caught in the same lie twice!! He claimed HE built his deck and hired a "helper". Well, then the picture he took was published and he forgot that the contractor's trailer was in the picture!!! That was the first time he was caught in the lie about building the deck. Now he's saying he hired a union carpenter!!! Caught twice in the same lie, that's rich!!! Harry couldn't telll the truth if it was written a 3x5 card in front of him. |
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