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RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 12:11*pm, John H wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:04 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 8:47*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. *Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? Well, from D.C. to Arizona and back. *I'd say that's a pretty long haul. *Can't speak for them but I think they may be doing it again next year. If it was me doing the towing, I'd much rather have a heavy truck instead of a small SUV. Poor Harry. Tries so hard. You're right about the travel trailer. The diesel is much more economical, getting almost 50% better mileage than the 4Runner. Next time we come through your way we'll probably be pulling a fifth wheel. Looking at Open Range models. I was going to say. I'm not sure about your situation, but last time I heard, the GM Duramax's are getting 19-22 mpg on the highways, and the 4 runners were lucky to get about 18 mpg. at 4 lane speeds. Odd that a way heavier vehicle would get better (per ratio) fuel economy. Heck, my 95 Lincoln town car gets 26 on the road and my wife's Honda CRV averages at 27.5. Doesn't make sense but that's how it is. BTW, when I had my 96 Dodge Cummins, I was getting about 20 mpg on the road and had no problem parking anywhere I needed to. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/21/11 6:10 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:11 pm, John wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:04 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 20, 8:47 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? Well, from D.C. to Arizona and back. I'd say that's a pretty long haul. Can't speak for them but I think they may be doing it again next year. If it was me doing the towing, I'd much rather have a heavy truck instead of a small SUV. Poor Harry. Tries so hard. You're right about the travel trailer. The diesel is much more economical, getting almost 50% better mileage than the 4Runner. Next time we come through your way we'll probably be pulling a fifth wheel. Looking at Open Range models. I was going to say. I'm not sure about your situation, but last time I heard, the GM Duramax's are getting 19-22 mpg on the highways, and the 4 runners were lucky to get about 18 mpg. at 4 lane speeds. Odd that a way heavier vehicle would get better (per ratio) fuel economy. Heck, my 95 Lincoln town car gets 26 on the road and my wife's Honda CRV averages at 27.5. Doesn't make sense but that's how it is. BTW, when I had my 96 Dodge Cummins, I was getting about 20 mpg on the road and had no problem parking anywhere I needed to. My 4Runner gets 23+ mpg at highway speeds. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 5:26*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 11/21/11 6:10 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 21, 12:11 pm, John *wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:04 -0800 (PST), *wrote: On Nov 20, 8:47 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com *wrote: On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com * *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. *Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? Well, from D.C. to Arizona and back. *I'd say that's a pretty long haul. *Can't speak for them but I think they may be doing it again next year. If it was me doing the towing, I'd much rather have a heavy truck instead of a small SUV. Poor Harry. Tries so hard. You're right about the travel trailer. The diesel is much more economical, getting almost 50% better mileage than the 4Runner. Next time we come through your way we'll probably be pulling a fifth wheel. Looking at Open Range models. I was going to say. I'm not sure about your situation, but last time I heard, the GM Duramax's are getting 19-22 mpg on the highways, and the 4 runners were lucky to get about 18 mpg. at 4 lane speeds. Odd that a way heavier vehicle would get better (per ratio) fuel economy. *Heck, my 95 Lincoln town car gets 26 on the road and my wife's Honda CRV averages at 27.5. *Doesn't make sense but that's how it is. BTW, when I had my 96 Dodge Cummins, I was getting about 20 mpg on the road and had no problem parking anywhere I needed to. My 4Runner gets 23+ mpg at highway speeds. Maybe so. I had 4 runner on the brain But I was thinking of the Highlander. so I confess... I goofed. ?;^ ) |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/21/2011 4:16 PM, OriginalJack wrote:
On Nov 21, 4:00 pm, wrote: Confused is Krause's middle name. If you'd rather have exclusive use of the monika, "Jack", I can change mine to something else. I'm pretty easy to get along with. ;-) -- Jack Schidt Naw, we're good. I'm down to posting here a couple of times a month, so it's not a problem. Leave him confused. Carry on! :-) Aye Aye -- Jack Schidt |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On 11/21/11 6:33 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 21, 5:26 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/21/11 6:10 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 21, 12:11 pm, John wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:04 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 20, 8:47 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? Well, from D.C. to Arizona and back. I'd say that's a pretty long haul. Can't speak for them but I think they may be doing it again next year. If it was me doing the towing, I'd much rather have a heavy truck instead of a small SUV. Poor Harry. Tries so hard. You're right about the travel trailer. The diesel is much more economical, getting almost 50% better mileage than the 4Runner. Next time we come through your way we'll probably be pulling a fifth wheel. Looking at Open Range models. I was going to say. I'm not sure about your situation, but last time I heard, the GM Duramax's are getting 19-22 mpg on the highways, and the 4 runners were lucky to get about 18 mpg. at 4 lane speeds. Odd that a way heavier vehicle would get better (per ratio) fuel economy. Heck, my 95 Lincoln town car gets 26 on the road and my wife's Honda CRV averages at 27.5. Doesn't make sense but that's how it is. BTW, when I had my 96 Dodge Cummins, I was getting about 20 mpg on the road and had no problem parking anywhere I needed to. My 4Runner gets 23+ mpg at highway speeds. Maybe so. I had 4 runner on the brain But I was thinking of the Highlander. so I confess... I goofed. ?;^ ) The highlander should get better mileage...it is smaller and lighter than the 4runner and has a v6 engine. On my recent trip to Connecticut, we were averaging 30+ mpg in a Chevy Impala, a "full-sized" sedan with a V6 engine. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 5:04*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:52:24 -0500, Drifter wrote: On 11/21/2011 3:03 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0500, X ` *wrote: On 11/21/11 2:54 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:47:38 -0500, * wrote: On 11/21/2011 11:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In articleLeydnXwdTbG95VfTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/21/11 10:57 AM, Jack wrote: On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, * *wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com * *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown........... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:55:49 -0800 (PST) , North Star
wrote: On Nov 21, 5:04*pm, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:52:24 -0500, Drifter wrote: On 11/21/2011 3:03 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0500, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anyw= here-you-can.com *wrote: On 11/21/11 2:54 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:47:38 -0500, * wrote= : On 11/21/2011 11:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In articleLeydnXwdTbG95VfTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dn...@earthlink .com, dump-o= n- says... On 11/21/11 10:57 AM, Jack wrote: On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, * *wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, d= ump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-= you- can.com * *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * *w= rote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5478848161_c25fa4233 b_= b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown..= ........ pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to to= w his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling h= is camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12= mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, p= lus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling respo= nse behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better = safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprin= t. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how = far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's= still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house t= o his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the ex= tra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highla= nder, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and giv= e your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more tha= n capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lo= t, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel t= ruck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. = It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simpl= y use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. Gee, Jackoff, that must explain why we have a sedan for road trip= s, an SUV to haul stuff around, a sports car and a motorcycle. No need = for an oversized pickup truck, since we no longer have a trailerboat. Liar. Suddenly the conversation turns from Herring, who has a need for a substantial truck to tow his toys, cross country safely, to Krause,= who will soon be trading his junk for an electric wheelchair. Won't be needing that big red barn anymore. Poor Harry. Jealousy is a pure bitch, especially is there's a tad of= narcissism involved. I'm wondering if parking is a big problem in Huntingtown. I've no pr= oblem parking the truck wherever I go, but maybe the spaces in Huntingtown are a lot tighter. Could b= e. Who knows? I can't think of one reason to be jealous of you, Herring. I don't en= vy anything about you or your possessions, least of all your oversized truck or your travel trailer. I can't think of a worse way to travel = a long distance than driving a big truck with a travel trailer behind i= t. Blech. Hee, hee. What was it you used to say about those slow-moving, boring trawlers? = 'Til you ' bought' one (or so you say). What a friggin' joke, Harry! Now, does that sound like a man who isn't harboring jealousy? Apparently he thinks owning stuff is the key to happiness. But then, why is he so miserable? I'm wondering how I'd feel if my biggest buddies were Donnie and Slammer.= - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Lucky and blessed come to mind................ Lucky Don and blessed Slammer, gotcha. -- 2012, the end of an error:-) Yee Haw! |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:10:31 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:11*pm, John H wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:04 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 8:47*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. *Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? Well, from D.C. to Arizona and back. *I'd say that's a pretty long haul. *Can't speak for them but I think they may be doing it again next year. If it was me doing the towing, I'd much rather have a heavy truck instead of a small SUV. Poor Harry. Tries so hard. You're right about the travel trailer. The diesel is much more economical, getting almost 50% better mileage than the 4Runner. Next time we come through your way we'll probably be pulling a fifth wheel. Looking at Open Range models. I was going to say. I'm not sure about your situation, but last time I heard, the GM Duramax's are getting 19-22 mpg on the highways, and the 4 runners were lucky to get about 18 mpg. at 4 lane speeds. Odd that a way heavier vehicle would get better (per ratio) fuel economy. Heck, my 95 Lincoln town car gets 26 on the road and my wife's Honda CRV averages at 27.5. Doesn't make sense but that's how it is. BTW, when I had my 96 Dodge Cummins, I was getting about 20 mpg on the road and had no problem parking anywhere I needed to. I think the parking thing is all in how well your dad, or grandpa in my case, taught you how to park. I've never had a problem either. It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do. BTW, here's the RV we're getting pretty serious about: http://www.dennisdillonrv.com/used/O...44b088988d.htm or: http://tinyurl.com/6lsgz7x The price isn't bad. They don't make the smaller ones, like this, anymore. Now they're all over 30 feet. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
In article ,
says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:33:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 21, 5:26*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/21/11 6:10 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 21, 12:11 pm, John *wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:04 -0800 (PST), *wrote: On Nov 20, 8:47 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com *wrote: On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com * *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. *Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? Well, from D.C. to Arizona and back. *I'd say that's a pretty long haul. *Can't speak for them but I think they may be doing it again next year. If it was me doing the towing, I'd much rather have a heavy truck instead of a small SUV. Poor Harry. Tries so hard. You're right about the travel trailer. The diesel is much more economical, getting almost 50% better mileage than the 4Runner. Next time we come through your way we'll probably be pulling a fifth wheel. Looking at Open Range models. I was going to say. I'm not sure about your situation, but last time I heard, the GM Duramax's are getting 19-22 mpg on the highways, and the 4 runners were lucky to get about 18 mpg. at 4 lane speeds. Odd that a way heavier vehicle would get better (per ratio) fuel economy. *Heck, my 95 Lincoln town car gets 26 on the road and my wife's Honda CRV averages at 27.5. *Doesn't make sense but that's how it is. BTW, when I had my 96 Dodge Cummins, I was getting about 20 mpg on the road and had no problem parking anywhere I needed to. My 4Runner gets 23+ mpg at highway speeds. Maybe so. I had 4 runner on the brain But I was thinking of the Highlander. so I confess... I goofed. ?;^ ) The six cylinder 4Runner got much better mileage at highway speeds. But, the towing capacity was only about half of the V8's. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:11:45 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. Yeah, well, that's not bad at all. But, it probably cost a lot more than my Guzzi. And, the Guzzi's only 22 years old, so it'll out last that damn Nissan! |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
In article ,
says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:11:45 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. Yeah, well, that's not bad at all. But, it probably cost a lot more than my Guzzi. And, the Guzzi's only 22 years old, so it'll out last that damn Nissan! Nissan Versa $12,500 out the door. Roll up windows, manual door locks and no radio. Would have been cheaper if I didn't get the auto trans. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:20:06 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:11:45 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. Yeah, well, that's not bad at all. But, it probably cost a lot more than my Guzzi. And, the Guzzi's only 22 years old, so it'll out last that damn Nissan! Nissan Versa $12,500 out the door. Roll up windows, manual door locks and no radio. Would have been cheaper if I didn't get the auto trans. Damn, that's not bad at all. I didn't think there were any cars made that cost less than about 20K. Heck, it's a cute little thing too. And, the trunk looks it might hold a set of golf clubs. I'd probably have to put the cart on the back seat. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 6:11*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown........... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. Those cars remind me of an upscale version of the older Honda Civics or a Ford Festiva on steroids.... |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 6:40*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:20:06 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:11:45 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown........... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:10:55 -0500, John H
wrote: It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do. === There's no magic to it, just the laws of physics. Diesel fuel has more BTUs per gallon and diesel engines operate at a much higher compression ratio. In addition a diesel engine does not operate against the constriction of a throttle plate. The rule of thumb is that a diesel engine will burn about 1 gallon per hour for every 17 or 18 horsepower. A gas engine burns 1 gallon per hour for every 10 hp. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H
wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg ==== The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it. In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for very long. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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, says... On Nov 21, 6:11*pm, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. Those cars remind me of an upscale version of the older Honda Civics or a Ford Festiva on steroids.... I call it the son of the Datsun 1200 Sedan. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
In article ,
says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:20:06 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:11:45 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. Yeah, well, that's not bad at all. But, it probably cost a lot more than my Guzzi. And, the Guzzi's only 22 years old, so it'll out last that damn Nissan! Nissan Versa $12,500 out the door. Roll up windows, manual door locks and no radio. Would have been cheaper if I didn't get the auto trans. Damn, that's not bad at all. I didn't think there were any cars made that cost less than about 20K. Heck, it's a cute little thing too. And, the trunk looks it might hold a set of golf clubs. I'd probably have to put the cart on the back seat. The sedan has a huge trunk. It is the biggest little car on the market. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 9:07*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg ==== The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it. In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for very long. The city plows our snow... except for the sidewalk & my driveway which i can easily do with a sturdy shovel or my electric snowblower. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
X ` Man wrote:
On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. Jim *has* a boat. D'oh! -HB |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:00:48 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:10:55 -0500, John H wrote: It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do. === There's no magic to it, just the laws of physics. Diesel fuel has more BTUs per gallon and diesel engines operate at a much higher compression ratio. In addition a diesel engine does not operate against the constriction of a throttle plate. The rule of thumb is that a diesel engine will burn about 1 gallon per hour for every 17 or 18 horsepower. A gas engine burns 1 gallon per hour for every 10 hp. There's just nothing like having the most powerful pickup in the world! You gotta love physics. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
X ` Man wrote:
On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Why does that bother/concern you, Harry? -HB |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
John H wrote:
Hee, hee. What was it you used to say about those slow-moving, boring trawlers? 'Til you ' bought' one (or so you say). What a friggin' joke, Harry! Now, does that sound like a man who isn't harboring jealousy? Apparently he thinks owning stuff is the key to happiness. But then, why is he so miserable? I'm wondering how I'd feel if my biggest buddies were Donnie and Slammer. Make up some friends. Paul and Plume are taken. -HB |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:54:45 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:07*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg ==== The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it. In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for very long. The city plows our snow... except for the sidewalk & my driveway which i can easily do with a sturdy shovel or my electric snowblower. Uh, Donnie...when you mentioned Consumer Reports classifying your RAV4 as an SUV (and therefore, in your opinion, a truck), you failed to mention some of the other 'trucks' they classified the same way, like: Nissan Rogue http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...4-cyl-cvt.jpeg Mini Countryman http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...n-s-4-cyl.jpeg Subaru Forester http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...ium-4-cyl.jpeg ....and so on. Are all these vehicles 'trucks'? |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
North Star wrote:
On Nov 21, 5:04 pm, John wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:52:24 -0500, wrote: On 11/21/2011 3:03 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0500, X ` wrote: On 11/21/11 2:54 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:47:38 -0500, wrote: On 11/21/2011 11:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In articleLeydnXwdTbG95VfTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/21/11 10:57 AM, Jack wrote: On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown........... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. Gee, Jackoff, that must explain why we have a sedan for road trips, an SUV to haul stuff around, a sports car and a motorcycle. No need for an oversized pickup truck, since we no longer have a trailerboat. Liar. Suddenly the conversation turns from Herring, who has a need for a substantial truck to tow his toys, cross country safely, to Krause, who will soon be trading his junk for an electric wheelchair. Won't be needing that big red barn anymore. Poor Harry. Jealousy is a pure bitch, especially is there's a tad of narcissism involved. I'm wondering if parking is a big problem in Huntingtown. I've no problem parking the truck wherever I go, but maybe the spaces in Huntingtown are a lot tighter. Could be. Who knows? I can't think of one reason to be jealous of you, Herring. I don't envy anything about you or your possessions, least of all your oversized truck or your travel trailer. I can't think of a worse way to travel a long distance than driving a big truck with a travel trailer behind it. Blech. Hee, hee. What was it you used to say about those slow-moving, boring trawlers? 'Til you ' bought' one (or so you say). What a friggin' joke, Harry! Now, does that sound like a man who isn't harboring jealousy? Apparently he thinks owning stuff is the key to happiness. But then, why is he so miserable? I'm wondering how I'd feel if my biggest buddies were Donnie and Slammer.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Lucky and blessed come to mind................ Really? -HB |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 7:00*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:10:55 -0500, John H wrote: It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do. === There's no magic to it, just the laws of physics. * Diesel fuel has more BTUs per gallon and diesel engines operate at a much higher compression ratio. * In addition a diesel engine does not operate against the constriction of a throttle plate. * The rule of thumb is that a diesel engine will burn about 1 gallon per hour for every 17 or 18 horsepower. * A gas engine burns 1 gallon per hour for every 10 hp. Then when you start turbo-ing the engine, the power flies. As long as you can keep the engine cool, the power is phenomenal. Take the lowly detroit '4-53' a 212 cubic engine, but with porting, turbo's and inner/after cooling, that little engine is capable of well over 450 reliable hp. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 10:49*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, *wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com * *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. *Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. For Herring, the truck is a " penile extension". |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 4:04*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:52:24 -0500, Drifter wrote: On 11/21/2011 3:03 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0500, X ` *wrote: On 11/21/11 2:54 PM, John H wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:47:38 -0500, * wrote: On 11/21/2011 11:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In articleLeydnXwdTbG95VfTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/21/11 10:57 AM, Jack wrote: On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, * *wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com * *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown........... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 7:11*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:54 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote: In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on- says... On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown........... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yiikes... are you really that stupid? If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander, that he already owned? If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your 'big head' a shake, things might make more sense. I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a bitch to park in the city. Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one. I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I drive around daily. My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg. My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L. ....but cant tow ****. Real handy. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 10:11*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:00:48 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:10:55 -0500, John H wrote: It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do. === There's no magic to it, just the laws of physics. * Diesel fuel has more BTUs per gallon and diesel engines operate at a much higher compression ratio. * In addition a diesel engine does not operate against the constriction of a throttle plate. * The rule of thumb is that a diesel engine will burn about 1 gallon per hour for every 17 or 18 horsepower. * A gas engine burns 1 gallon per hour for every 10 hp. There's just nothing like having the most powerful pickup in the world! You gotta love physics. LMAO....better get a Cummins Diesel in that piece of **** then. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 10:31*pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 21, 7:00*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:10:55 -0500, John H wrote: It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do. === There's no magic to it, just the laws of physics. * Diesel fuel has more BTUs per gallon and diesel engines operate at a much higher compression ratio. * In addition a diesel engine does not operate against the constriction of a throttle plate. * The rule of thumb is that a diesel engine will burn about 1 gallon per hour for every 17 or 18 horsepower. * A gas engine burns 1 gallon per hour for every 10 hp.. Then when you start turbo-ing the engine, the power flies. As long as you can keep the engine cool, the power is phenomenal. Take the lowly detroit '4-53' a 212 cubic engine, but with porting, turbo's and inner/after cooling, that little engine is capable of well over 450 *reliable hp. Trouble is, you need ear plugs with that 4-53. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:54:45 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:07*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg ==== The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it. In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for very long. The city plows our snow... except for the sidewalk & my driveway which i can easily do with a sturdy shovel or my electric snowblower. Uh, Donnie...when you mentioned Consumer Reports classifying your RAV4 as an SUV (and therefore, in your opinion, a truck), you failed to mention some of the other 'trucks' they classified the same way, like: Nissan Rogue http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...4-cyl-cvt.jpeg Mini Countryman http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...n-s-4-cyl.jpeg Subaru Forester http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...ium-4-cyl.jpeg ...and so on. Are all these vehicles 'trucks'? It depends upon who is buying them and who is selling them. But, when you go to register them you will find out whether you are registering a truck or a car. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
"Tim" wrote in message ... I'm not sure but I think that Nissan is the last to give up crank windows. About everyone else has gone electric. ------------------------------------------------------------ Electric (motor driven) windows are cheaper to manufacture than the crank driven, mechanical assemblies they replaced. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 22, 3:39*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" *wrote in message ... I'm not sure but I think that Nissan is the last to give up crank windows. About everyone else has gone electric. ------------------------------------------------------------ Electric (motor driven) windows are cheaper to manufacture than the crank driven, mechanical assemblies they replaced. Yeah, that seems really odd doesn't it. It used to be that elect windows was an expensive option over a crank. Of course in 'the day' an automatic was optional over a stick shift, now, in many cases it's the other way around. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
On Nov 21, 10:02*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:54:45 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:07*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg ==== The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it.. In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for very long. The city plows our snow... except for the sidewalk & my driveway which i can easily do with a sturdy shovel or my electric snowblower. Uh, Donnie...when you mentioned Consumer Reports classifying your RAV4 as an SUV (and therefore, in your opinion, a truck), you failed to mention some of the other 'trucks' they classified the same way, like: Nissan Rogue http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or.../content/cars/... Mini Countryman http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or.../content/cars/... Subaru Forester http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or.../content/cars/... ...and so on. Are all these vehicles 'trucks'? It depends upon who is buying them and who is selling them. But, when you go to register them you will find out whether you are registering a truck or a car. Since you brought that up, the Ford Ranchero, the Chevy El camino and the GM Sprint were all registered as 'trucks'. Actually it seemed they were station wagons with the back top lopped off. hmmmm |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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, says... On Nov 21, 10:02*pm, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:54:45 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote: On Nov 21, 9:07*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg ==== The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it. In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for very long. The city plows our snow... except for the sidewalk & my driveway which i can easily do with a sturdy shovel or my electric snowblower. Uh, Donnie...when you mentioned Consumer Reports classifying your RAV4 as an SUV (and therefore, in your opinion, a truck), you failed to mention some of the other 'trucks' they classified the same way, like: Nissan Rogue http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or.../content/cars/... Mini Countryman http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or.../content/cars/... Subaru Forester http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or.../content/cars/... ...and so on. Are all these vehicles 'trucks'? It depends upon who is buying them and who is selling them. But, when you go to register them you will find out whether you are registering a truck or a car. Since you brought that up, the Ford Ranchero, the Chevy El camino and the GM Sprint were all registered as 'trucks'. Actually it seemed they were station wagons with the back top lopped off. hmmmm My F-150 SuperCrew is a truck. It is a POV, however, Maryland still treats it as a truck as far as registration. But, it is treated like, not as, a car in all other respects. |
RAV4 - a girly 'truck'?
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, says... On Nov 21, 12:11*pm, John H wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:04 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 8:47*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com *wrote: On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * *wrote: OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'. Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg Duh! That is a 1st generation model. My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size. Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown.......... pyrite mica to be exact. Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh. And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. *Better safety, better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint. good decision. Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh? Well, from D.C. to Arizona and back. *I'd say that's a pretty long haul. *Can't speak for them but I think they may be doing it again next year. If it was me doing the towing, I'd much rather have a heavy truck instead of a small SUV. Poor Harry. Tries so hard. You're right about the travel trailer. The diesel is much more economical, getting almost 50% better mileage than the 4Runner. Next time we come through your way we'll probably be pulling a fifth wheel. Looking at Open Range models. I was going to say. I'm not sure about your situation, but last time I heard, the GM Duramax's are getting 19-22 mpg on the highways, and the 4 runners were lucky to get about 18 mpg. at 4 lane speeds. Odd that a way heavier vehicle would get better (per ratio) fuel economy. Heck, my 95 Lincoln town car gets 26 on the road and my wife's Honda CRV averages at 27.5. Doesn't make sense but that's how it is. BTW, when I had my 96 Dodge Cummins, I was getting about 20 mpg on the road and had no problem parking anywhere I needed to. Some people just aren't capable of learning. |
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