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Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:50:14 -0500, John H
wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:33:16 -0500, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:19:42 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:00:57 -0500, bpuharic wrote: gee that's a shame. no reason we should pay all the taxes while the capital gains folks pay zip, after what they did to this country What we did was provide capital to the job creators so guys like you can find work. I imagine your investments amount to the EE bond your grandmother gave you and a set of Obama inaugural collector plates. i keep asking the same question you keep ignoring the same question: if we gave these cuts to the job creators to create jobs where are the jobs??? How many people are working? I see people with jobs all around me. If our unemployment is 'only' 9%, or so, then our 'employment' must be 90% or so. That would imply that there are a lot of jobs out there. so let's see. for the right wing 1. we cut capital gains on the ricfh 2 unemployment DOUBLES to 14M not working 3 they conclude the rich getting richer CREATED jobs what the hell kind of math do they teach to right wingers?? he's too stupid to know 400,000 NEW people become unemployed every week. he's too stupid to know that we DOUBLED unemployment AFTER CUTTING TAXES ON THE RICH and to conservatives they have it all figured out. |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On 25/11/2011 12:02 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:43:32 -0700, wrote: On 24/11/2011 9:32 PM, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:59:37 -0500, wrote: Some of us actually invested our money and like lower capital gains taxes. But taxes on gains is a wealth tax. and taxes on income is a tax on labor. captial gains should be taxed at least as regular income. there's no reason those who destroyed this economy should be rewarded for it Why do you think this investor is un-investing in USA? USA is a liberal-socialist state of corruption. Everyone who hangs around is going to lose. I didn't need to hang around. Might **** you fleabaggers off, but not having the right to vote also means I can move away from disaster. I value my economic freedom. Voting is a ruse anyway, as the ponies are always back room boys and people vote like sheep. Funny, the big reduction in USDs was in 2004, I got a 30% premium on exchange for that move. Plus what I invested it in doubled. But if I stayed in the USA I would have missed these opportunities. And before you pounce on me for 2004 being Bush, I could see a democrat flush coming in 2006 congress, a money print for currency fraud, a ruse. You could see the public entitlement and envy, the greed...and that means it is time to leave. 0bama is the symptom and epitome of what is wrong with America. Looks like 0bama has ****ed off the Chinese and North Koreans too, just to add to Russia, Iran, Syria and others. And without allies, guess 0bama is looking for WW III to take peoples mind off of American government corruption. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On 25/11/2011 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:00:57 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:32:14 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:59:37 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:56:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:52:05 -0500, wrote: you're ignoring the whole point to the difference between tax rates and marginal tax rates. middle class tax rates are 28%. that is a fact. What is the effective tax rate? (What you actually pay) I showed you it is 12% or less for a couple ,making $100,000. the effective tax rate depends on ALOT of factors, many of which the right wants to elmiinate for the middle class in favor of cutting taxes for the wealthy. aint no right winger talking about eliminating middle class taxes like they are capital gains Some of us actually invested our money and like lower capital gains taxes. gee that's a shame. no reason we should pay all the taxes while the capital gains folks pay zip, after what they did to this country What we did was provide capital to the job creators so guys like you can find work. I imagine your investments amount to the EE bond your grandmother gave you and a set of Obama inaugural collector plates. No big, if they tax gains more, investors will pay even less to employees as more is needed for the investor to get a return. And for some, there is no leeway, they just will not invest. Then the liberal-socialists can claim the problem they created is worse and propel even more nonsense to fix it. That is how liberal-socialism is, cause the problem and get bigger trying to fix it. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On 25/11/2011 12:38 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:33:42 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:13:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:45:4 The fact is the top 5% pay 40% of the taxes. you're so full of right wing bull**** i can smell it in PA No, Philadelphia always smells like that. ;-) Perhaps you would believe the IRS web site ... but I doubt it. You can go here and crunch the numbers yourself http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/09in12ms.xls you can go here, to the congressional budget office report: http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/f.../201117pap.pdf and find that between 1979 and 2007 the income of the richest 1% grew by TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE percent did their taxes go up that much? nope. in fact they went DOWN Since there was no change in the tax law between 2007 and 2009, how do you explain that. it's YOUR contention cutting capital gains taxes creates jobs we DID cut capital gains by 50% during bush's term WHERE ARE THE JOBS?? you IGNORE this question. you keep BLEATING that bankrupting the middle class by giving ALL our money to the rich will create jobs OK. we did that WHERE ARE THE JOBS??? BTW why make a statement that is not supported by the link you post. Do you think I won't read it and take your 275% numbers at face value i gave you the link to the CBO study. can't help it if faux news keeps feeding you ****. the very fact you keep bleating WRONG information tells us about the bull**** kool aid you drink from the True Believer fountain at wall street Your article seems to make it sound like Wall Street INVESTORS took the worst hit. "house prices declined 17 percent and the Wilshire 5000 index of publicly traded equities fell 39 percent." Yet you think it is all gravy for us. gee. middle class unemployment DOUBLED AND we BAILED YOU OUT NOW you want MORE money to continue to destroy our country how ****ing GREEDY can you get? Even if you believe your bull****....ask yourself then why 0bama signed the $6 trillion in checks? Sold you out? Treating you like a dumb**** sheep? Laughing at your gullibility and stupidity? -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:24:10 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/11/2011 12:02 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:43:32 -0700, wrote: On 24/11/2011 9:32 PM, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:59:37 -0500, wrote: Some of us actually invested our money and like lower capital gains taxes. But taxes on gains is a wealth tax. and taxes on income is a tax on labor. captial gains should be taxed at least as regular income. there's no reason those who destroyed this economy should be rewarded for it Why do you think this investor is un-investing in USA? USA is a liberal-socialist state of corruption. Everyone who hangs around is going to lose. I didn't need to hang around. HAHAHAHA he lives in a state with socialized medicine and 30% UNIONS and he calls the US a socialsit state!! ROFLMAO! Might **** you fleabaggers off, but not having the right to vote also means I can move away from disaster. I value my economic freedom. says the guy who has the advantage of national health care Looks like 0bama has ****ed off the Chinese and North Koreans too, just to add to Russia, Iran, Syria and others. And without allies, guess 0bama is looking for WW III to take peoples mind off of American government corruption. gee. your grandmother could **** off the n. koreans you moron you really are a ****ing lunatic |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:27:31 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/11/2011 12:19 PM, wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:00:57 -0500, wrote: Some of us actually invested our money and like lower capital gains taxes. gee that's a shame. no reason we should pay all the taxes while the capital gains folks pay zip, after what they did to this country What we did was provide capital to the job creators so guys like you can find work. I imagine your investments amount to the EE bond your grandmother gave you and a set of Obama inaugural collector plates. No big, if they tax gains more, investors will pay even less to employees as more is needed for the investor to get a return. proof?? oh. none. none at all. we cut capital gains for the wealthy under bush and middle class income went DOWN cancuk is an economic basket case And for some, there is no leeway, they just will not invest. Then the liberal-socialists can claim the problem they created is worse and propel even more nonsense to fix it. That is how liberal-socialism is, cause the problem and get bigger trying to fix it. says the guy who lives his life believing fairy tales as a True Believer in the wall street cult |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:33:42 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:13:56 -0500, bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:45:47 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:02:05 -0500, bpuharic wrote: Perhaps you would believe the IRS web site ... but I doubt it. You can go here and crunch the numbers yourself http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/09in12ms.xls you can go here, to the congressional budget office report: http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/f.../201117pap.pdf and find that between 1979 and 2007 the income of the richest 1% grew by TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE percent did their taxes go up that much? nope. in fact they went DOWN Since there was no change in the tax law between 2007 and 2009, how do you explain that. BTW why make a statement that is not supported by the link you post. Do you think I won't read it and take your 275% numbers at face value Your article seems to make it sound like Wall Street INVESTORS took the worst hit. "house prices declined 17 percent and the Wilshire 5000 index of publicly traded equities fell 39 percent." Yet you think it is all gravy for us. IOW you didnt read the CBO link i sent no wonder. it's not faux news so you dont believe it |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On 11/25/11 7:14 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:24:10 -0700, wrote: On 25/11/2011 12:02 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:43:32 -0700, wrote: On 24/11/2011 9:32 PM, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:59:37 -0500, wrote: Some of us actually invested our money and like lower capital gains taxes. But taxes on gains is a wealth tax. and taxes on income is a tax on labor. captial gains should be taxed at least as regular income. there's no reason those who destroyed this economy should be rewarded for it Why do you think this investor is un-investing in USA? USA is a liberal-socialist state of corruption. Everyone who hangs around is going to lose. I didn't need to hang around. HAHAHAHA he lives in a state with socialized medicine and 30% UNIONS and he calls the US a socialsit state!! ROFLMAO! Might **** you fleabaggers off, but not having the right to vote also means I can move away from disaster. I value my economic freedom. says the guy who has the advantage of national health care Looks like 0bama has ****ed off the Chinese and North Koreans too, just to add to Russia, Iran, Syria and others. And without allies, guess 0bama is looking for WW III to take peoples mind off of American government corruption. gee. your grandmother could **** off the n. koreans you moron you really are a ****ing lunatic Canuckles is happiest sucking down the benefits other taxpayers pay for. He's a true modern conservative. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:29:41 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/11/2011 12:38 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:33:42 -0500, wrote: AND we BAILED YOU OUT NOW you want MORE money to continue to destroy our country how ****ing GREEDY can you get? Even if you believe your bull****....ask yourself then why 0bama signed the $6 trillion in checks? Sold you out? Treating you like a dumb**** sheep? Laughing at your gullibility and stupidity? ever hear of too big to fail oh. you didn't. i forgot. you're cosnervative and therefore illiterate |
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