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Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
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Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:55:23 -0500, Disgusted wrote:
On 11/24/2011 11:56 AM, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:52:05 -0500, wrote: you're ignoring the whole point to the difference between tax rates and marginal tax rates. middle class tax rates are 28%. that is a fact. What is the effective tax rate? (What you actually pay) I showed you it is 12% or less for a couple ,making $100,000. You sure do have a lot of patience with that guy. If he acted like he does here in a face to face "debate", with his name calling, he'd be visiting his dentist on a regular basis. But it's too easy to hide behind Usenet. right whiners call hiding from the truth 'patience' orwell would be proud |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
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Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On 24/11/2011 7:59 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:56:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:52:05 -0500, wrote: you're ignoring the whole point to the difference between tax rates and marginal tax rates. middle class tax rates are 28%. that is a fact. What is the effective tax rate? (What you actually pay) I showed you it is 12% or less for a couple ,making $100,000. the effective tax rate depends on ALOT of factors, many of which the right wants to elmiinate for the middle class in favor of cutting taxes for the wealthy. aint no right winger talking about eliminating middle class taxes like they are capital gains Tax capital gains 2 things happen. 1) USA is less attractive for investing and less jobs. 2) Those that do invest will get double the gains to pay the taxes and it will come from wages. Either way, just screwing the middle class. Tax greed isn't going to solve DCs problem but it is liable to make it a whole lot worse. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:32:14 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:59:37 -0500, bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:56:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:52:05 -0500, bpuharic wrote: you're ignoring the whole point to the difference between tax rates and marginal tax rates. middle class tax rates are 28%. that is a fact. What is the effective tax rate? (What you actually pay) I showed you it is 12% or less for a couple ,making $100,000. the effective tax rate depends on ALOT of factors, many of which the right wants to elmiinate for the middle class in favor of cutting taxes for the wealthy. aint no right winger talking about eliminating middle class taxes like they are capital gains Some of us actually invested our money and like lower capital gains taxes. gee that's a shame. no reason we should pay all the taxes while the capital gains folks pay zip, after what they did to this country |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:43:32 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 24/11/2011 9:32 PM, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:59:37 -0500, wrote: Some of us actually invested our money and like lower capital gains taxes. But taxes on gains is a wealth tax. and taxes on income is a tax on labor. captial gains should be taxed at least as regular income. there's no reason those who destroyed this economy should be rewarded for it |
Charlie Cook Sees GOP Winning Big in 2012
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:36:38 -0700, Canuck57
wrote: On 24/11/2011 7:59 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:56:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:52:05 -0500, wrote: you're ignoring the whole point to the difference between tax rates and marginal tax rates. middle class tax rates are 28%. that is a fact. What is the effective tax rate? (What you actually pay) I showed you it is 12% or less for a couple ,making $100,000. the effective tax rate depends on ALOT of factors, many of which the right wants to elmiinate for the middle class in favor of cutting taxes for the wealthy. aint no right winger talking about eliminating middle class taxes like they are capital gains Tax capital gains 2 things happen. 1) USA is less attractive for investing and less jobs. wrong. in fact, an argument for taxing capital gains is precisely to drive finanical instruments overseas and quit subsidizing false investments that have dstroyed our economy. there is no proof that cutting capital gains leads to jobs. none. it's right wing propaganda. bush cut capital gains from 29% to 15% and this is the economy we got. where are the jobs?? 2) Those that do invest will get double the gains to pay the taxes and it will come from wages. wrong. if they're in a competiitive market for jobs OR if there are unions, like in more advanced countries, then capital gains taxes will come from stock holders Either way, just screwing the middle class. bull****. i just showed why you're wrong. where are the jobs? where are they?? Tax greed isn't going to solve DCs problem but it is liable to make it a whole lot worse. |
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